Lord Hutton statement NOW (Live covering)

[ze_dscherman]

Read the ticker at: http://www.guardian.co.uk

Read also: http://www.guardian.co.uk/hutton/0,13822,1021216,00.html


Another link at the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3434661.stm

[Spentastic]

1. FOR FUCKS SAKE

don't watch.

Basically the BBC are being carpetted for misreporting on a claim that WMD could be deployed in 45 minutes.

The British and American governments killed possibly 10000 civilians and probably 30000 soldiers on the basis of this infomation. They get away scot free.

Democracy is toast.

[Laughing Mirror]

2. You're right. I fell asleep watching Hutton.

Woke up and tried to get interested and fell back asleep again.

Is he still going on?

[Spentastic]

3. Yeah it goes like this

Blah balh blah Gilligan blah blah blah BBC directors blah blah blah Kelly all his own fault blah blah blah.

Government whiter than white. Nothing at all wrong with Tony Blair. He's a bloody brilliant chap. Made me a lord don'tcha know?

Blah blah blah Blah balh blah Gilligan blah blah blah BBC directors blah blah blah Kelly all his own fault blah blah blah.

[Briar]

4. You mean...

...for getting their report on the false 45 minutes claim right. An unforgiveable offence. Now wait for the calls for the BBC to sack its reporters, for its governors to give up their independence, and for the organisation to be carved up so that Murdoch can take the juiciest pieces. Hutton has just served the death warrant of independent, unbiased reporting in this country. He has betrayed the people and undermined democracy. No wonder Bliar and his cronies are crowing.

[J B]

5. Their buildings shall be destroyed, their fields salted...

Am I getting close?

[Spentastic]

6. 2 for 2 killing us softly

And only fools fail to see it.

The death knell for all public services was saounded by University fees debacle. Reform means "sell off"

Today Hutton fucks the BBC

[DoYouEverWonder]

7. Today Hutton

fucked humanity.

[Briar]

14. Exactly!

[Monkey see Monkey Do]

8. On one report at 6:07am

God I fucking hate this country.

Time to wave bye bye to the Beeb as we know it.

Smug face is in the commons gloating like the arse-face he is.

[non sociopath skin]

32. Is that arse-face Blair...

.. or arse face Campbell. Or both?

The Skin

[TexasEditor]

9. Profanity is lazy.

I thought we were supposed to be civil from this point forward. Take a deep breath and think of some words you can use.

[J B]

10. Incompetent... incomplete... biased... 5yr thought in 60yr language..

Am I doing well so far?

[DoYouEverWonder]

15. Most of us around here are usually much more verbose

However, there is only one word that sums up my reaction to this travesty of justice. This is so FUCKED up. We are screwed. They can not be stopped. Not unless 'we the people' rise up against them, but I'm afraid most people in the US are too well fed and lazy to even notice. I've been raging against the beast for a long time, this is one of the rare times that I am starting to believe there really is no hope for mankind.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

16. Why does profanity bother you?

Why does it matter?

[Spentastic]

28. How about

fuck off. Tony Blair is fucking lying piece of shit.

[Capt_Nemo]

24. Ain't that the f***ing truth!

[Screaming Lord Byron]

11. If the choice is between the world's most consistent broadcaster

and the hollowed-out corporate shell that used to be Labour, it's BBC for me. I can only hope this doesn't spell the Beeb's death.

[J B]

13. What else could it mean. -_-

Blair will call this his own personal Second Coming and rise triumphant, smiting his foes...

... I watched Matrix Reloaded lately. Morpheus-speak on my mind.

[Nihil]

12. Complete whitewash

The report itself is online (PDF) at
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Politics/documents/2004/01/28/huttonreport.pdf

(337 pages, ~2Mb)

Am reading it now but it looks like a complete fucking whitewash so far.

Nihil

[Briar]

17. Yes it's a whitewash...

Rod Liddle was on the BBC just now, reminding us that no law lord finds against the government in an enquiry. Appointing Hutton meant ensuring just this sort of report. So far he and Shirley Williams have been the only honest voices raised in dismay. Typical.

Though some corrupt old Labour ex Defence Secretary popped up like a gargoyle to start demanding Sambrooke (sp?) be sacked, on the grounds of his "relationship" with Susan Watts. He was shut up smartish, but looks as though the government has been attacking the BBC through scurrilous gossip too, just in case Hutton did come through for them strongly enough.

[GCP]

18. It's a complete whitewash

He said the "allegation was an allegation which was unfounded", because intelligence chiefs did believe that the source from which it came was reliable.

So he chooses to believe the people who we've since heard knew basically nothing about Iraq and WMDs.

He also said that Dr Kelly's meeting with Mr Gilligan was unauthorised, and in breach of the civil service code.

So it's his own fault he's dead?

He said: "I am satisfied that Dr Kelly took his own life by cutting his left wrist."
His death was hastened by taking a "concoction" of pills, said the judge. He added that no third party was involved.

It doesn't seem as if he's read the reports of the "suicide" scene, not enough blood, bruises on his body and head, the difficulty of slahing his ulnar artery when the radial artery is easier to find, heart monitor pads in place - WTF was that about?

Dr Kelly's meeting with Mr Gilligan was unauthorised and, by talking about intelligence matters, the scientist had breached the civil service code of procedure, the judge said.

Again, it's his fault he's dead.

Lord Hutton said he was satisfied that Dr Kelly had not suggested the government knew intelligence in the dossier was suspect or wrong.
He also said he did not believe the scientist had said the 45-minute claim was initially kept out because the intelligence agencies thought it was untrue.

He was present at the hotel when the meeting took place? How can he be so certain about anything?

It's a whitewash. Blair must be peeing his pants in joy over this.

[KDLarsen]

21. ...

It doesn't seem as if he's read the reports of the "suicide" scene, not enough blood, bruises on his body and head, the difficulty of slahing his ulnar artery when the radial artery is easier to find, heart monitor pads in place - WTF was that about?

Not to mention the fact that Kelly apparently had a hard time swallowing pills - which makes it rather impressive for him to swallow the around 40 sleeping pill I heard he swallowed.

I doubt we've seen the last of this case. I sure hope that Mr. Hutton isn't going anywhere in a small plane anytime soon :tinfoilhat:

[Capt_Nemo]

19. The mother of all whitewashes!

so where are the 45min. deployable WMD, mr. Hutton?

Maybe they're up your sorry arse...

[reticulatus]

20. "Hutton finds WMDs"

"Tony was right all along blah blah blah ..."

[dolgoruky]

22. Wow, that's a surprise!

Fuckin smug New Labour tory bastards.

Fuckin hate them.

When are we gonna get some fuckin justice?

[stumblnrose]

23. Aaaaarrrrrrghhhh

This makes me so sad. I was looking for some signs of intelligent life from you Brits. You too are owned, managed, packaged. The language of this report is so remonstrative, a one way lying ticket to hell for the press. Disgusting.

[Capt_Nemo]

25. Hutton and Scaglia

chips of the same block

[Jack Rabbit]

26. There will be some serious criticism of Hutton's findings

I'm reading the BBC account. While Lord Hutton may be correct to say that questions about whether the intelligence on Iraq justified an invasion or not are beyond the scope of his inquiry, I find the idea that the government's dossier was not full of exaggerations and lies (or, to use the colorful phrase that has taken on an almost technical meaning, "sexed up") just a bit absurd.

The Prime Minister stood before Parliament and said that Iraqi commanders could launch an attack with a biochemical arsenal within 45 minutes of Saddam giving the order. That statement was false. In fact, Saddam had no biochemical arsenal. Did the Prime Minister really believe anything that turned out to be so inaccurate? if so, how did he come to believe it?

I will reserve my judgment on the Hutton Report until I know more about it. Otherwise, my opinion of Mr. Blair has not changed. He is a liar.

[okieinpain]

27. well I guess the kerry supporters are right, you can't be anti-war

and hope to beat bush. because by the time the november elections roll around most people will be saying what war.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

29. excuse me but Kay meeting before Congress LIVE on CNN now!!

[Dudley_DUright]

30. Oh good

Simultaneous transatlantic whitewashing. What fun.

[xchrom]

31. between hutton and kay

the corporate establishment is in a full frontal attack on all of us.
they will bend the truth as far people let them -- and with their puppetts in the media they get their version of history in the books and do their best to obliterate the truth.