Kennedy rips bush a new one ...Kay meeting Congress ..LIVE CNN NOW!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

MSNBC will air the meeting

[Terwilliger]

1. ummm...

:shrug:

[jean]

2. on c-span?

no wonder * is hiding out in that picture of yours!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

3. it's on NOW ....CNN

[BlueEyedSon]

4. CSPAN3 will broadcast the Kay hearing

according to the CSPAN website

Realmedia Link: http://c-span.org/watch/cspan3_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3
WinMedia Link: http://c-span.org/watch/cspan3_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

[Occulus]

14. Just a note

If you CAN watch it on TV, please please do so. I can only get CSPAN3 on the internet, and the traffic is so huge that I can't even get audio only to stream.

And I have broadband. Maybe it's my provider.

[maddezmom]

20. keep trying, it took me a couple attempts. :)

[ElsewheresDaughter]

22. it's on CNN Live too

[ElsewheresDaughter]

5. wonder if they will tell about Rummy saying "we know where 30 of the WMD s

sites are"

[Justice]

15. Do You Think Russert Would Ever Put Up THAT quote

when interviewing Rumsfield?

Hey, on zx date you said this.

Yet David Kay says we got nothing.

what say you?

[otohara]

6. John Warner

making speech, I CONCUR, war was necessary - Blaming Clinton

[lancdem]

18. Hey, Warner

Saddam disarmed in the mid-1990s, WHEN CLINTON WAS PRESIDENT.

[pinto]

7. Warner opens by telling Kay what Warner wants his testimony to show.....

[ElsewheresDaughter]

8. yup!....dastardly fucker!......will Ted bring up OSP?

[otohara]

9. Office of Special People

who lie for a living

[TacticalPeek]

11. who are globalizing and outsourcing US national security interests.

I may have to revise my estimates of the life span of the nation state.

Darn.

[Qutzupalotl]

121. Office of Suspicious Phraseology

[ElsewheresDaughter]

10. thank you Levine!!!!!!!!!!! all bush*s quotes...LIES!!!

[Just Me]

12. I don't care if they point at "intelligence" all day long,...

,...I believe the totality of the "intelligence" clearly demonstrated that there was no existing evidence of stockpiles or manufacture of violative WMDs. The administration obviously pulled out dubious pieces of unconfirmed reports with the intent to deceive. It does NOT take a rocket scientist to look at these circumstances and conclude that an intent to deceive existed then as it does now.

[Bonobo]

13. Can't believe CNN is showing this...wow. eom

[maddezmom]

26. and CNNInternational n/t

[0007]

122. I've been gone most of the day and just getting caught up

Dang' I'm sorry I missed the action.

I can't believe what I'm hearing.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

16. fucking Faux News is NOT NOT even mentioning this meeting!

[Just Me]

17. Levin is pinning them down BIG TIME!!!!

I'll bet the Bush cabal is at least starting to feel the heat now.

[tabasco]

21. Levin had scads of damning quotes from Rummy, etc. !!!!!

Glad to see his staff is on the ball !

[Tracer]

19. Ugh. Warner. That well-known mental giant.

eom

[treepig]

34. or more accurately, a giant mental

(to use a somewhat politically incorrect term)

[otohara]

23. Ugh, This is Sickening

we were wrong, oops.

[Gin]

24. Warner has eaten too much beef...the symptoms are showing...

gin

[Gin]

25. Warner just said.."lets give the process a chance" wow..I thought

that was the requirement before we send in the troops.

Warner go away!

[Occulus]

27. Warner is apologizing for *

but- BWAHA- Kay just pre-empted the "world is safer" meme and took it right off the table!

Levin's on now.

[otohara]

28. Hiding Illegal Programs & Activities

that were 11 years old

[DesignGirl]

98. My Senator

Warner is my senator here in Virginia. Totally paid for by military business and no one ever opposes him during election time?!

[Occulus]

32. Levin's bringing up Cheney's remarks

from last week about the vans. He's asking Kay about what intelligence Cheney could possibly be referring to.

Ooh, Levin... settle down a bit.

Kay just said it is his personal judgement that those vans right now were not intended for biological weapons. Levin is stressing that we ask the vice president for the basis of Cheney's statements and is asking for the statement in writing from Cheney, and Warner immediately changed the subject!!!!!

Levin just changed it back!!!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

29. Warner trying desperately to put words in Kay's mouth...wmakes me sick how

badly warner trying to spin this issue: NO NOT EVER WAS THERE WMDS IN IRAQ before the war NOT SINCE last gulf war!!!!

[arcane1]

62. Warner hates America, and doesn't care about our safety

he is an un-American traitor who values his party loyalty far above the LIVES OF AMERICANS.

May he hang w/the rest of them :grr:

[BlueEyedSon]

30. No found stockpiles, even small, no evidence of such stockpiles

So no nuthin'?

Maybe by the time this is over, there wil be no WMDPRA's either?

[hang a left]

31. What about program activities? Find anything?

[yellowcanine]

55. Brochure advertising a "WMD for Dummies Workshop" Found

"Chemical Ali" is the featured speaker/trainer.
Facilitated by Information Minister Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf (MSS).
All participants will receive a WMD Resource Notebook and a souvenir MSS beret.

[dicknbush]

33. KAY IS SUCH A CROCK OF CRAP

MR KAY WERE THOSE TUBES INTENEDE FOR NUCLEAR DEVELOPMENT?

IN MY OPINION NO BUT OHTERS MAY COME TO DIFFERENT CONCLUSIONS LIKE RUSH LIMBAUGH HE MAY THINK THEY WERE INTENED FOR NUCLEAR DEVELOPMENT SO MY OPINION IS MY OPINION AND NOT THE OPINION OF OTHERS EVEN THOUGHT I AM THE SPECIALIST IN THIS FIELD BUT YOU REALLY CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT I SAY AT LEAST TODAY.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

35. McCain talking about the "past" before last gul war...jays'us H christ!!!!

[Habibi]

39. I'm surprised at McCain

I would think, as a former POW, he'd be pretty damn angry at losing 500 service folks because of this. Instead, he says it was "worth it".

[Flubadubya]

49. SCREW McCAIN >>>>>

The bastard is making the case that the war was justified solely on the basis of just "getting rid of Saddam" regardless of what has been said about WMD. Kay agrees totally. The S.O.B.s!!!

Then if that's the case, why didn't BushCo. just say we need to go get Saddam? To hell with WMD. This is such BullShit!!!

[tabasco]

69. McCain is no patriot.

Complete tool of the corporate cabal. He has no backbone and no honor. His Navy service and former POW status do not automatically make him a hero to me. I am a vet and give great respect to veterans. But McCain is not on the side of the people.

[Just Me]

74. Apparently he advocates our new policy of regime change via war,...

,...so weird that, after Hitler, the U.S. led the charge to squash elective wars for occupation,...and, now, the U.S. is leading the world towards aggressive military policy of "regime change" through elective wars. No wonder so many view us as "the beast".

[librechik]

108. & lying about it first--"I had to change the regime; they had a gun!" n/t

[dicknbush]

36. CALL REPUBLICAN MEMBERS AND ADVISE THEM...

TO PRETEND THEY ARE LOOKING FOR CLINTON
S COCK THEY WOULD HIRE 5 SPECIAL INVESTIGATORS

[ElsewheresDaughter]

37. we were WRONG because of the OSP...OSP...OSP!!!! say it OSP!!!

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

38. Go Levin! Go Levin! Go Levin! Yeaaaaahhhhh!

Levin's Kicking Ass! Just put Warner (corpse) on the spot by asking for Cheney to put in writing why a week ago he said that the mobile hydrogen labs were biological in nature!

No wonder the Repukes wanted to anthrax Levin. He's not taking their fascist crap!

IMPEACHMENT NOW!

JB

[rusty charly]

40. it was

carter's fault now. that's a new stretch.

[rusty charly]

42. got an answer we don't want to hear

"you don't have to say it"

[ElsewheresDaughter]

48. McCain is a disgrace to military ....he thinks it OKAY that our soldiers

DIED fdor BushCo LIES ...god forgive him and me because i CAN"T forgive McCain for what he just said!

[arcane1]

65. McCain hates America

he would rather prop up Bush's lies than protect Americans. To hell with him

[dicknbush]

41. THIS CREEP KAY IS A PRO

AT GOOBLDY GOOK OBFUSCATION AND TEDIOUS BS

WHY ISN'T HE SAYING IN MY OPINION WHEN TALKING TO

KAY COPES OUT ON THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR QUESTION WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP COWARD COWARD COWARD

[BlueEyedSon]

45. KENNEDY up NOW!

[Shadder]

54. Please stop shouting at us

Turn off the caps

[BlueEyedSon]

61. I believe that is my first shout

cspan is supposed to be capitalized

[Occulus]

67. wasn't directed at you

but the other guy.

[shanti]

115. take off your friggin caps lock!

it's VERY annoying!

[Just Me]

43. I have just lost what respect I did have for McCain!!!

He is selling out the last ounce of honor and integrity he once held by distracting from the facts with a lecture on politics.

UGH!!!

[AtTheEndOfTheDay]

64. I'm convinced

McCain will be Bush's running mate. He's been actively endorsing and stumping the Bush. Cheney will be ditched..

[otohara]

44. He's Laying The Ground Work for * to Attack Syria

and others - making the ME & world safer from liars and cheats. Who may or may not have ambitions to make WMD's

[madmax]

46. Kay just said

Secret Societies? I missed some of it because CNN interupted with a FCC warning shit...what's he talking about??

[Gin]

52. he was talking about organizations reforming themselves..

great mis-speak...secret Societies have a hard time reforming themselves..

[madmax]

56. Thanks Gin

n/t

[dicknbush]

47. GO TED

RIP THIS PIECE OF CRAP KAY OPEN LIKE A SARDINE CAN

[dicknbush]

51. FINALLY SOMEONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE FACT..

THAT CHALABI AND CHENEY AND RUMSFELD WERE FEEDING THE BAD INFORMATION TO THE COUNTRY!

[SoCalDem]

50. "So then it's POSSIBLE that leprechauns

were in charge or could have been in charge of, if they existed,(and some may feel that they do not) the plans for the programs of the possible preliminary investigatory exercise , where they would have or could have used or tried to use, or planned to use or planned to investigate the use or the investigation of the plan to use, the analysis of the possibility of the fact that they had or might not had had, or the fact that they may have buried or may not have buried or had plans under investigation to bury the study that may have dictated the investigation or study of the plans for the programs that would support the possibility of the study.. Isn't that right, Dr Kay??

[dicknbush]

53. KENNEDY SPEAKS THE TRUTH

CHENEY CHALABI AND RUMSFLED AND POWELL LIED LIED LIED LIED LIED LIED.

[rusty charly]

57. gathering threat

he got the email

[dicknbush]

58. THE CIA WERE TELLING THE TRUTH

CHENEY CHALABI POWELL RUMSLFELD WOULDN'T LET THE TRUTH GET TOLD

[Occulus]

59. could you hit your caps lock, please?

[Gigi]

70. CAPS

IF EVER A TOPIC NEEDS TO BE IN CAPS......IT IS THIS ONE!!!!!!

[JohnOneillsMemory]

117. "Please keep your voice down. It's only a massacre." -sarcasm off. jeez.

[Gin]

60. They ned to ask which agency intel was used...CIA or OSP

thats the major difference.

[BlueEyedSon]

63. Finally some truth... Saddam's "creative ambiguity"

re weapons

[librechik]

110. I thought he was talking about BushCo n/t

[SoCalDem]

66. Interesting how he named "Cohen".. ( a Clinton carryover)

Tenet is being used as a fall guy too..

The people who serve in an administration should NEVER remain "on staff" when the new guy comes in.. There is no way on earth that Georgie WANTED Clinton carryovers.. He NEEDED them..

Tenet...Mineta...Cohen... Powel (although Powell had quit before 2001)..

and Democrats should NEVER NEVER NEVER "serve" with a republican administration.. They are only being "used" , mush as are Condi, Colin, Clarence, Rod,and the others..

By serving the "enemy", they are not doing us any favors and are just window dressing to the administration.. They are only there as placeholders and targets for any future shitstorms that may arise.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

68. "why didn't Saddam come forth with documentation of destruction of 1990

bio and chemical weapons"?....well why did Bush remove 8,000 pages of Saddam's report and documentations to UN before the war????

was the proof of there desttruction in those 8,000 removed pages?

i think so

[Cush]

71. Hillary is up

[BlueEyedSon]

72. Hah! the UN inspections were working!

[hang a left]

73. Make no mistake. Bus* and co. is going down. You can see it

everywhere.

That is not necessariy good news.

[dicknbush]

75. YUUUUUUCK

I really despise this guy sessions

[Jim Sagle]

114. Why not?

[TheDonkey]

76. too much rethug spin, blech

many are just giving "why iraq war was good speech" other than questions.

[Just Me]

95. The usual emotional rhetoric to divert from the FACTS!!!

G-DAMNIT!!! Watching these manipulators of truth is pissing me off like I cannot believe anyone can get me this outraged!!!!

ARGHHHHHHH :mad: :mad: :mad:

Freakin' propagandists!!!!

They have no damn right to sit there and claim the "truth-seeking" is all political when every word, phrase, and proffer is politically skewed.

God,...I am really feeling such hatred towards these evil, evil people.

[BlueEyedSon]

77. Commentator on CNN says he thinks Bush Admin getting off easy

[hang a left]

81. The importance here is that this guy is from the Brookings

Istitute.

[dicknbush]

78. I just had this image of Groucho Marks

It would be hillarious if he were sitting on this pannel. This republican BS session is like trying to hold jello. Well he did have WMD but we are not sure where they are well even if they didn't have wmd we were still justified .

[SoCalDem]

83. ..remember... "Ahh do not believe that tobacco is addictive"..??

:puke:

[justsam]

79. My take is

Kay don't have the balls to go up against Bush and his gang or they got to him as they have O'Neil,, also the gang is safe when people like McCain and Warner are running blocker for them,,

[dicknbush]

82. MY TAKE IS

Kay got a phone call to get in line or the Bush crime family would pay him a visit!

[leetrisck]

80. Absolutely nothing can justify the death

and destruction that this administration has caused. They must be impeached or resigned.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

84. switch over to C-Span NOW...it's on there

[dicknbush]

87. Roberts justifying the white wash

[joeunderdog]

105. "we have all the right reasons for doing all the wrong things"

Yup. That's what I thought I heard.

"911 CHANGED EVERYTHING!!!"
Like needing justification to level a country.
Like manipulating intelligence to further a political agenda.
Like being honest...?

OK. Noww I get it.

[shanti]

116. of course 9/11 changed everything

that's the way it was planned! :grr:

[dicknbush]

85. I recall

That the Iraqie UN representative told the UN we have NO WMD's no one believed him

[dicknbush]

86. Kay got his talking points down

Every time he can mention that Iraq used WMD against his people. He is going to say that as many time as he can.

[Magleetis]

88. Face it Roberts

The shrub lied. You can put on your dog and pony show as long as you want. Shrub still lied.

[GCP]

89. Roberts just rolled out the whole wingie list

Kobar Towers, USS Cole, bombing Sudan, yada yada yada. Playing to the wingies, fuckhead.

[truthspeaker]

101. none of which Saddam was involved with

talk about misdirection

[Sperk]

92. always false choices from the repugs....go to war or Saddam

gets WMD and we DIE. Always ignoring that inspectors worked.

[GCP]

90. This is getting to be another whitewash

Why did I expect anything else?
:grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr:

[annagull]

91. Kay must have watched a History Channel marathon

Let's see, he's brought up the Cuban missle crisis, WWII, Nagasaki...

[GCP]

94. The pubs are lobbing soft-balls at him and he's bloviating

on whatever he wants to bloviate about. Nobody's sticking to the question in hand. Why did we go to war, were there WMDs or did * lie?

[BlueEyedSon]

93. Dayton up, "how many countries have WMDPRA's?"

paraphasing

"we are gonna be cuttting a huge swath across the world"

[GCP]

96. Kay is a complete POS n/t

[Malva Zebrina]

97. I have been watching it

and it is shameful what the Republicans are doing. They are supporting Bush's lies. Especially one--John McCain. They will, in the end, convince many many people that indeed it was a marvelous idea to invade Iraq and remove the evil dictator who "would have been" a threat if we did not bomb his country to bit, kill thousands of it's civilians and then reign in chaoes until we secured the oil fields for Halliburton. I cannot believe how they have the talking points down pat--they are determined to turn it around--that Bush indeed, HAD a just reason to invade Iraq at his whim and will and I think they are going to be successful in the long run. They have ALL memorized the script. They are the party of the despicable, supporting the serial killer, Bush the Ignorant and Dumb. This is shameful--I know not my country anymore.

The Iraq war can be summed up in one word---WRONG

McCain doesn not know the meaning of logic, nor does he know the advantages of "doing the right thing"

Hillary looks good--although her questions are convoluted and not focused enough. Same with Kennedy. this whole hearing is nothing but a Bush circus, with the main player, who has learned his part well, being David Kay. Slime

[Gin]

99. Levin was the only tough questioner....it appears the thugs had a script..

and they practiced last night ..the whole group along with Kay were right on script..

Did you hear Kay mention he's writing about this? What a shamelss whore.

[The_Casual_Observer]

106. McCain & co. can make excuses all day

to justify the mistake they made. However, unlike the justification for starting it, the war is real and won't go away just by telling some lies. So, jabber away, since it's only a matter of time when the public won't buy these justifications anymore. The sad part is that a lot more people will have to die before that happens.

[Terwilliger]

100. This is an utter joke

Even the Dems won't (or can't) go for the jugular, and the CIA is now the reason we went to war.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

102. oh damn damn damn...i don't have C-Span 3...i lost viewing of it!!!

please keep me a breast?????

[Peachhead22]

107. Boy, hasn't Kay....

...personally met with a lot of Repug senators? He keeps on answering softballs...er, questions from 'Pub senators by starting off "like I said when we met personally...". I don't recall him referencing any personal meetings with Dem senators.

Like a lawyer coaching a witness before a trial.

<no offense meant to lawyers>

[SoCalDem]

109. watch it online

www.c-span.org

click on cspan 3 on the left side.. stand alone player

you can watch it online

[ElsewheresDaughter]

113. thanks SCD but my dino computer won't support it...1994 model

:argh: :argh: :argh:

[Magleetis]

103. Sen. Collins

What justification did we have for killing thousands of innocent people in Iraq?

[Emboldened Chimp]

104. Collins the latest puke to assist in the whitewash

says she'll now have a hard time trusting the intelligence agencies in other areas, like North Korea; says the IC was also wrong on Iran and Libya. This is such utter bullshit, because it was Chalabi, Cheney and Rumsfeld dishing bad info, not the CIA or DIA. Fucking sick.

[Malva Zebrina]

124. Collins is as dumb as rocks

she will say and go wherever Snowe goes and is just following the trends as she sees them, and trying to look as though she is really doing something for the people of her state.

She is a superficial, fraud who, besides bending over to kiss Bush's ass, has managed to adopt the politicospeak but has no substance at all behing her. She is really dumb. Quite dumb.

[WheresWaldo]

111. Levin is the man!!!

thats my homey from MICHIGAN, he is all over Kay. very impressed with his work today, comeplements of the good people of Michigan.

[WheresWaldo]

112. Levin is quoting Carnegie report from a few weeks ago

telling Kay to read it, and he says he's always willing to do homework from Sen. Levin. Carnegie report is available online here:

http://www.ceip.org/files/projects/npp/resources/iraqintell/home.htm

download this and read it, some 100+ pages, there'also a powerpoint of the salient points made in the report somewhere. enjoy.

[DubyaSux]

118. No way...

The CIA isn't the only game in town.

Kay seems to insinuate that every frickin' intelligence agency in the WORLD got it wrong. I think that's an absurd premise.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

119. "absurd" crazy, harebrained, insane, loony, potty, and preposterous claim!

[demgrrrll]

120. Can you even begin to imagine how pissed the CIA folks are at this

band of grifters. I use the term because it colors everything they do.
It's all about the benji's.. Their arrogance is breathtaking.

[TacticalPeek]

123. The Fool's Way.

These fools bet on the Come, and crapped out.

And they wagered our national security, treasure and blood, all of which are draining as we type.

[pinniped]

125. Kay hearing still on C-SPAN.

:kick: