US admits flaws in Iraq intelligence

[DuctapeFatwa]

"I think that what we have is evidence that there are differences between what we knew going in and what we found on the ground," Condoleezza Rice told CBS on Thursday.

She added, "That's not surprising in a country that was as closed and secretive as Iraq, a country that was doing everything that it could to deceive the United Nations, to deceive the world."

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=448891§ion=news

[laruemtt]

1. i guess it all depends on

what the meaning of the word "know" is.

[mike_c]

2. this is more lies from an administration that couldn't...

...tell the truth if their lives depended on it. Saddam Hussein told the U.N. that he had no WMD's-- that turns out to be true, not a deception. The weapons inspectors said that the U.S. claims were overblown, and that Hussein was cooperating, even if not very gracefully. It appears to me that the only real deception was on the part of the U.S. How many times did members of the Bush* administration make exagerated claims about Hussein's capabilities, intentions, and connections to international terrorists? THOSE are what has turned out to be deceptions. Hussein's statements turn out to have been true.

Who was really "doing everything that it could to deceive the United Nations, to deceive the world?"

[loudnclear]

4. This was my point to a friend this week.

Saddam told the truth and Bush lied.
The US CHOSE to smear Scott Ritter and ignore Blix and Wilson and all the others who warned us about the faulty intelligence (a lot from Israel's Mossad too).

How a judge could declare Tony Blair innocent of charges of "sexing up" intelligence is beyond me. Bush and Tony...the fair-haired boys who can do no wrong. The guy who comitted suicide in Britain was being smeared too. How can the BBC and the rest of the media allow them to get away with this crap? The media is totally useless in this country, I just don't trust them in general...even the so-Called "liberal" journalists fail to make the strongest case against the thugs running and ruining our country.

[DuctapeFatwa]

3. What Condi really meant to say

Saddam's scientists lied to him and told him they had made massive quantities of weapons of mass destruction.

Saddam knew this wasn't true, but he bluffed and pretended he did have them by saying he didn't, and fooled the CIA.

Then in a very sophisticated manner, he hid the weapons of mass destruction in Syria and Iran, all the while defying America with a vicious campaign of deception and denial and continuing to wish he had weapons of mass destruction and inviting the press in to examine the weapons of mass destruction Colin Powell had proof of.

By this time the CIA had given bush the faulty intelligence and now the whole world knew that Saddam's weapons of mass destruction were an imminent threat, which could destroy the whole world in 45 minutes because there were Iraqis with the intellectual capacity to produce weapons of mass destruction and at least one scientist had drawn some pictures of weapons of mass destruction and buried them in the rose garden while Saddam was deceiving the weapons inspectors by not putting weapons of mass destruction in any of the places they looked, even though he really wished he had some.

[0007]

5. HMmm!

" a country that was doing everything that it could to deceive the United Nations" Sounds like the administration condi is talking about.

[Just Me]

6. "Closed and secretive",...amazing the consistency in projecting,...

,...their own acts. Nowadays, I figure, all accusations spewed by this cabal is actually a reflection of their own culpabilities. AND, every assertion of their "compassionate" acts is actually the opposite of what they intend to do.

BASSACKWARDS,...it's a new form of pig latin, if you know what I mean *LOL*.

[grytpype]

7. Jeebus H. Christ!!!!

"When you are dealing with secretive regimes that want to deceive, you're never going to be able to be positive" about intelligence, Rice told NBC on Thursday.

But you said you WERE positive, you scag! You and Rummy mocked Hans Blix for not being able to find WMDs!

[Bozvotros]

8. What happened to the "Office of Special Plans?"

Why in the hell is no one in the media talking about how these sphincters cherry picked and doctored the evidence to fit their plan? My understanding was that the intelligence agencies looked at all of the evidence they had and made assessments as to what was likely to be factual. The CIA and others knew that most of their evidence was too flimsy to go to war, so Chainknee installed the OSP to fluff the evidence. I thought this was well known but the OSP is almost never mentioned now.