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emad
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Fri Jul-11-08 03:32 PM Original message |
Satanist father and Christian mother fight for Sunday morning custody rights |
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emad
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Fri Jul-11-08 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
1. Satanism - good enough for the US Internal Revenue Service |
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Ian David
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Fri Jul-11-08 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. I can wait for them to be interviewed on The Daily Show. n/t |
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Dr.Phool
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Fri Jul-11-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Daily Show my ass. |
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Ian David
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Fri Jul-11-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Geraldo Rivera Satanic Panic |
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ben_meyers
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Fri Jul-11-08 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
3. Cut the GD kids in half and solve the problem. |
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awoke_in_2003
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Fri Jul-11-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. Ain't nothing wrong with that |
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Betsy Ross
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Fri Jul-11-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. They are holy scriptures. |
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aspergris
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Sat Jul-12-08 01:19 AM Response to Reply #19 |
83. Actually no |
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w4rma
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Sun Jul-13-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #83 |
128. Are you a mind reader? How do you know that it was a ruse? (nt) |
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Fri Jul-11-08 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
4. He's going to have to award one of them sole legal custody. |
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emad
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Fri Jul-11-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Joint custody is possible but with just one parent being awarded |
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JeanGrey
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
39. Possibly he was different when they married? |
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pnwmom
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
47. He joined the "church" after his multiple divorces. |
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EvilAL
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Sun Jul-13-08 12:45 AM Response to Reply #47 |
118. its all the same. |
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Ian David
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Fri Jul-11-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. I wonder what those so-called "Fathers Rights" groups think of this? n/t |
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beam me up scottie
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Fri Jul-11-08 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
6. Of course people will now begin confusing atheism with satanism. |
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girl gone mad
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Fri Jul-11-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. If only. |
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awoke_in_2003
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Fri Jul-11-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Well, I only eat kittens |
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beam me up scottie
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
38. Yeah, at least they believe in something... |
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susanna
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Sat Jul-12-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
114. Seriously? That's interesting to me... |
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pnwmom
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
54. The Satanists say they are atheists. |
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beam me up scottie
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Sorry, the satanists I know are not atheists and would be insulted if you told them they were.. |
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pnwmom
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. This isn't about the Satanists you know. It's about the Church of Satan |
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beam me up scottie
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Fri Jul-11-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. MY comment, which was the one you responded to, was about satanists. |
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pnwmom
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Fri Jul-11-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #61 |
71. Your comment was about "Satanists" not "satanists." |
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beam me up scottie
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Fri Jul-11-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. WTF? Now you're telling me I don't know what I was referring to ? |
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pnwmom
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Sat Jul-12-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #73 |
99. These people say they are not spiritual, in addition to being atheists. |
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beam me up scottie
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Sat Jul-12-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #99 |
109. I don't care what they say, atheism is not a religion. Period. |
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yardwork
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Sun Jul-13-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #59 |
119. Anyone can call themselves an atheist. Anyone can call themselves a Christian. |
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Miss Chybil
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Sat Jul-12-08 12:45 AM Response to Reply #54 |
80. What a bunch of bullshit. |
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aspergris
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Sat Jul-12-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #80 |
85. Satan’s greatest victory was when he convinced us he doesn’t exist - that's the saying n/t |
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beam me up scottie
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Sat Jul-12-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #80 |
94. I said pretty much the same thing down thread. |
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aspergris
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Sat Jul-12-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #54 |
84. That is true |
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Q3JR4
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Sat Jul-12-08 11:40 PM Response to Reply #54 |
116. You know I read |
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Chovexani
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Fri Jul-11-08 07:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
67. Really depends on the Satanists. |
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beam me up scottie
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Fri Jul-11-08 08:40 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Heh heh... " "Satanism" is really a huge umbrella of various philosophies and beliefs" |
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hendo
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Fri Jul-11-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Atheism is also a huge umbrella of various philosophies and beliefs |
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beam me up scottie
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Fri Jul-11-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. No, I will not accept your definition of my atheism. It is not faith. It is the absence of it. |
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hendo
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Fri Jul-11-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. the lack of belief in supernatural beings is a belief and value structure |
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beam me up scottie
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Fri Jul-11-08 10:30 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. No, it's not. It is the absence of one. Do feel free to tell me what I believe |
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hendo
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Fri Jul-11-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. the belief in nothing is a belief |
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beam me up scottie
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Fri Jul-11-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Why is this so difficult for you? My lack of belief in the Great Pumpkin is not a belief. |
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hendo
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Sat Jul-12-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #78 |
98. thats almost as bad as fundie logic |
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Zhade
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Sat Jul-12-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #98 |
108. Atheism does not equal nihilism. |
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beam me up scottie
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Sat Jul-12-08 08:56 PM Response to Reply #108 |
111. Meh, four years later we're still fighting the same battles, Zhade. |
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Zhade
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Sat Jul-12-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. At least we're alive to fight! |
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beam me up scottie
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Sat Jul-12-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #98 |
110. Too bad, I don't fit into any of your neat little boxes so you'll just have to leave me uncatalogued |
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yardwork
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Sun Jul-13-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #98 |
121. You're making a lot of assumptions and rude conclusions about other people's opinions. |
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Sat Jul-12-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #77 |
102. And bald is a hair color. |
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Zhade
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Sat Jul-12-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #77 |
107. No, it's not. It's NOT believing in nothing, it's lacking belief in something unproven. |
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yardwork
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Sun Jul-13-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #77 |
120. This is silly. You're telling another person what they think |
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beam me up scottie
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Sun Jul-13-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #120 |
130. Thank you, yardwork. |
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yardwork
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Sun Jul-13-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #130 |
132. I got your back. I'm a pagan and we are routinely confused with satanists, too. |
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aspergris
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Sat Jul-12-08 01:28 AM Response to Reply #74 |
88. You are what is referred to as a "weak atheist" and are correct |
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beam me up scottie
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Sat Jul-12-08 08:56 AM Response to Reply #88 |
93. Thank you. Have we met? I'm bmus, and I've been fighting this battle for years |
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aspergris
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #93 |
105. I'll fight the battle wit' ya |
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beam me up scottie
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Sat Jul-12-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #105 |
113. Welcome aboard, matey! |
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aspergris
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Sun Jul-13-08 12:30 AM Response to Reply #113 |
117. I like it n/t |
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yardwork
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Sun Jul-13-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #88 |
122. Referred to by whom? Christians? Somebody else? |
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aspergris
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Sun Jul-13-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #122 |
127. It's not about what I would or wouldn't like. It's about accepted terms |
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yardwork
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Sun Jul-13-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #127 |
129. Ok, I understand now. I was reacting to the "arguing past each other" upthread. |
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aspergris
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Mon Jul-14-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #129 |
136. n/p i'm all about the Common Lexicon (tm) :) n/t |
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aspergris
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Sat Jul-12-08 01:27 AM Response to Reply #69 |
87. Atheists aren't being disingenous |
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hendo
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Sat Jul-12-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #87 |
100. I agree |
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aspergris
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Sat Jul-12-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #100 |
106. Right |
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Sun Jul-13-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #106 |
123. Absolutely,I am a confirmed hedonist who does not believe in God, Satan, pixies... |
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aspergris
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Sun Jul-13-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. assuming they ARE mythical |
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Chovexani
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Sun Jul-13-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #69 |
124. I know, right?! |
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beam me up scottie
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Sun Jul-13-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #124 |
131. Cats with two legs...I like that! |
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aspergris
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Sat Jul-12-08 01:26 AM Response to Reply #67 |
86. Because it's so frigging disingenuous |
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pennylane100
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Fri Jul-11-08 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
7. I just read the eleven rules of Satan |
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Ian David
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Fri Jul-11-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Satanism's Commandments go up to 11. The christians Commandments only go up to 10. n/t |
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XemaSab
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Fri Jul-11-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Remind me never to be a Satanist |
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
41. so this bloke is out there, he's broken all 10 commandments- where can he go from there...? |
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Ian David
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Fri Jul-11-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #41 |
60. EXACTLY! n/t |
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aspergris
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Sat Jul-12-08 01:29 AM Response to Reply #11 |
89. But why not make 10 the highest number and... |
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Ian David
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Fri Jul-11-08 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
9. See also |
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enlightenment
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Fri Jul-11-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. What, exactly, constitutes an "authentic faith"? |
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Ian David
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Fri Jul-11-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Different government agencies define it differently. |
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enlightenment
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Fri Jul-11-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Would you happen to have a link? Seriously. |
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Ian David
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Fri Jul-11-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. I think I found what we wanted... |
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enlightenment
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Fri Jul-11-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Thank you! Very interesting . . . just read your cuts, |
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emad
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Fri Jul-11-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Hair on end? ALWAYS suspected satanists are in charge of IRS! |
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Fri Jul-11-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I don't think satanists go in for the sort of true evil that |
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emad
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Fri Jul-11-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Ever had a surprise audit on your annual returns? |
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Fri Jul-11-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. ewhhh . . . *the icy finger of doom just ran down my back . . .* |
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Ian David
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. Satanists are to Humanists what Libertarians are to Republicans. |
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Sun Jul-13-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #44 |
133. I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the correlation between humanists and Republicans |
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
55. I started a new religion two months ago |
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yardwork
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Sun Jul-13-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
134. LOL! |
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Wizard777
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
40. None of which are Constitutionally legal. The government cannot say what does and does not |
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pnwmom
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
53. Is atheism a religion? Because the High Priest says Satanists are atheists. |
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Wizard777
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Fri Jul-11-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. Satan is Hebrew it simply means enemy. So their "satan" is enemy of who? |
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Fri Jul-11-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. Satan is the ancient northern Semitic word for 'Wanderer' |
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Wizard777
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Fri Jul-11-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. In Hebrew it means Adversary or Accuser. |
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LanternWaste
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Sat Jul-12-08 08:13 AM Response to Reply #79 |
92. My sources tend to disagree with you... |
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Wizard777
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Sat Jul-12-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. In our language Adversary and Enemy can be synonymous. |
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beam me up scottie
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Fri Jul-11-08 08:33 PM Response to Reply #53 |
68. Many buddhists are atheists, so are many jews but that doesn't make atheism a religion. |
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Sat Jul-12-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #68 |
91. An atheist can be a jew only because |
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Sat Jul-12-08 01:31 AM Response to Reply #53 |
90. Strong Atheism |
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Sun Jul-13-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #53 |
135. I doubt that many "satanists" or "Satanists" belong to any formal group. |
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Ian David
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Fri Jul-11-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #40 |
62. If you want to protect Freedom of Religion, you must also DEFINE what a religion is. |
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Wizard777
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Fri Jul-11-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Okay who's bible do we use to define religion? Let every war ever fought begin now! |
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awoke_in_2003
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Fri Jul-11-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Ceiling Cat is the one true god. nt |
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
49. Ceiling Cat's Eleven Rules of the Earth |
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Fri Jul-11-08 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
16. A little more details from American Newspapers on the Subject: |
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Fri Jul-11-08 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
17. hahahaha |
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awoke_in_2003
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Fri Jul-11-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. HERESY!!! |
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emad
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Fri Jul-11-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
33. These two damned sight more scary looking than some serpentologists |
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Fri Jul-11-08 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
21. Whether Satanism is a religion or not should be immaterial. |
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Ian David
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Fri Jul-11-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. If that's the case, they're going to cite the Newdow case in defense of the Satanist father? n/t |
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Wizard777
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #21 |
43. SCOTUS has already ruled that Satanism and Paganism are protected under the first amendment. |
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Ian David
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. I'm all in favor of equal treatment for everyone's immaginary friend playtime. n/t |
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Wizard777
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Like they say. The God of the old religion is always the devil of the new religion. |
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Fri Jul-11-08 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
26. Satanists use babies for human sacrifices! |
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Fri Jul-11-08 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
27. Back and forth |
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LiberalFighter
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Sat Jul-12-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #27 |
104. Under normal circumstances when there are visitation rights |
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iamthebandfanman
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Fri Jul-11-08 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
29. did they ask the kids what they wanted? |
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. That, sadly, is what is most important |
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Ian David
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
46. Why should people with a political agenda consider the needs of actual people? n/t |
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LiberalFighter
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Sat Jul-12-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
103. Until the kids are old enough the parents decide. |
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
42. I'm agnostic, but if I had had kids... |
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Wizard777
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Then you're an atheist not an agnostic. Agnostic = without knowledge= believer. |
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zanne
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. I believe that God is a possibility. |
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Wizard777
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Fri Jul-11-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #56 |
66. Okay then you are agnostic boardering Ba'hai'. |
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Miss Chybil
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Sat Jul-12-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #66 |
81. They just know "he" loves them... |
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Sat Jul-12-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #81 |
101. he in the non-gendered way perhaps? |
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Miss Chybil
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Sat Jul-12-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #48 |
82. Agnostics feel there is no way to either prove or disprove the existence |
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
51. Oh god, this sounds like an episode of Jerry Springer or something. |
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Ian David
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Yes, but The Midget KKK is not involved. n/t |
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Fri Jul-11-08 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
58. I'm shocked that this happened |
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emad
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Fri Jul-11-08 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
64. Maybe the husband said he's a Satanist just to piss off his Christian wife. |
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NC_Nurse
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Sat Jul-12-08 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
95. But what about the Jewish grandparents and the Buddhist aunt? Maybe |
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beam me up scottie
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Sat Jul-12-08 09:26 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. LOL! |
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Q3JR4
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Sat Jul-12-08 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
115. Interesting quotes from the article.... |
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rayofreason
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Sun Jul-13-08 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
125. I 1st thought it said "Stalinist father and..." |
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Mon Jul-14-08 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
137. Bullcrap |
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Mon Jul-14-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #137 |
139. Exactly - I don't see how his religion is relevant at all - despite her claim |
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Mon Jul-14-08 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
138. It shows him must be a great dad if that's all she has on him |
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