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Newsjock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 09:02 AM Original message |
World Court asks U.S. to stay 5 executions |
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Seen the light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
1. Oh my |
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tidy_bowl (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. When the World Court orders..... |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. I didn't know Iran hanged an American for being gay? |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Does Malaysia hang foreign national |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
61. The US Supreme Court has ruled twice on the issue |
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JMackT (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
2. Why? |
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newfie11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 09:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. gang rape and murder two 15 year olds |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
50. Well then hopefully |
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Waya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
3. Junior ignores our own Supreme Court....... |
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Possumpoint (937 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 09:14 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Opps! |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
32. Yeah, but! Dubya generally declares that he has the power to do whatever he wants. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
62. Bush supported the World Court twice in front of the Supreme Court |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
4. Wonder where the World Court was back when junior was governor of the great state of Texas |
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JMackT (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
7. We all know what black bush would say |
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aspergris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. lol |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
8. Fuck them, kill them. Here are the victims.......... |
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Jim Lane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. OK, they're beasts -- but we're not, so we follow the rule of law |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. "Jurisdiction" is the key here. |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #9 |
48. Texas has already told the Word Court No. They will |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Rape and murder is brutal and wrong |
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aspergris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. If the rule of law wasn't followed |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Read around a bit |
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aspergris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I wasn't referring to international law |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. No, that is not my premise |
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aspergris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. premises |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #8 |
20. If we can kill them legally we should imo... slowly. n/t |
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World Traveller (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
41. Murder was at 34th and W. T C Jester |
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Zavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
43. After reading that, |
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Wabbajack_ (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:21 AM Response to Reply #8 |
46. Death is too good a punishment |
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wvbygod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
52. No, do not kill them. Exploite their weakness for life |
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Anexio (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
69. Thank you for finding that and posting it |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
10. well well the shit is hitting the fan now isn't it? |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
15. . |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
16. Duplicate topic |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
18. These are the guys Mexico went to bat for? |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I just had a Scary thought, what if Mexico wants to cut oil exports to the US? |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. considering we export 1.3 mill barrels to Mexico a day |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. The US only export 375,000 barrels a day to Mexico, and imports 1.3 million barrels a day |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
33. Notification is the issue that Mexico went to bat for. |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
24. I oppose the death penalty on principle but I'm all for sending those bastards |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
53. They'd get out pretty quickly |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
26. World Court "has no enforcement power". This is the loophole Bushco thrives on |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
27. would direct violation of this ruling |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. No |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
30. That means as much as if I ruled the same thing from my living room. |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
31. "Asks"? No, "orders"! |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. In this case, it's actually true. The President has no direct authority here. |
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tidy_bowl (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
38. Congress..... |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 02:21 AM Response to Original message |
39. Frankily, they can go straight to hell |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Iran executes six 'wicked' people in public ( the world court not in session that day) |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 04:11 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. And they're just the sort of nations that America emulates |
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tidy_bowl (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 06:50 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. A rogue in wanting to protect its children? wow. nt |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. Capital punishment doesn't protect (or deter) anyone |
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milou (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-22-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #54 |
74. For every murderer/rapist executed... |
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tidy_bowl (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-22-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Exactly. That is obvious for a normal person to see. nt. |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #39 |
49. Apparently it doesn't scare Texas. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
42. Fuck all that noise; put down those beasts |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
47. And Texas has said "thanks but no". |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
51. The US has a long way to go |
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tidy_bowl (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-22-08 11:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
76. Rather be an Ugly American than a dead one. nt |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
55. I don't like the death penalty, but I also don't like demands from the UN/EU/World Court |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Same here |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. They're simply requesting that Americans abide by an international treaty that they signed |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Well the Federal Government can sign all the treaties it wants |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. You might want to read the Supremacy Clause (Article VI, Clause 2 ) |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 09:30 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Is there an enacting statute that applies? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 01:55 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Congress is working on that right now as a result of Texas' willful failure |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:50 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Texas did nothing wrong |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. The lower courts and the dissenters disagree- and no one in the case |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Totally irrelevant |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Hardly irrelevant |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Where do you get the notion that anything is more important |
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tidy_bowl (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #70 |
80. Hold on there Bucko........ |
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tidy_bowl (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #66 |
79. Again you ignore our constitution... |
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tidy_bowl (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 12:15 AM Response to Reply #64 |
78. Whether or not the bill works its way in time.... |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. The Constitution explicitly states how it may be |
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Flagg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. It's sad to see so many liberals and otherwise progressive people embrace the death penalty |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. We didn't realize it was a litmus test. |
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tidy_bowl (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #68 |
82. Would you be so magnamious..... |
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tidy_bowl (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #63 |
81. Hear..hear. nt |
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tidy_bowl (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #57 |
77. Ummmm, you're conveinantly wanting to ignore our .... |
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GeniusLib (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
73. I don't see the issue here |
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