W.House Sees 'Gutter Politics' in Bush Guard Flap

[thebaghwan]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=615&e=1&u=/nm/20040211/pl_nm/campaign_bush_dc

The heat is on them and let us keep it that way. Write the Whitehouse and demand full disclosure of all military records as promised!!!

This definitely has legs!!

[Beetwasher]

1. Love It!

"The White House had hoped its release on Tuesday of pay and service records would demonstrate that Bush had met his service obligations.

But those records also showed long absences during his final two years of service -- a period in which Bush worked for some time on a political campaign in Alabama. Democrats and other critics said the records were inadequate."

--snip--

Bush, who was trained as an F-102 pilot, was suspended from flying in 1972 because he did not take a flight physical. He spent part of 1972 working on a political campaign in Alabama and says he performed part of his guard duty there. He was honorably discharged eight months shy of the obligatory six years in October 1973 to attend Harvard Business school.

--snip--

Ha Ha!

[CO Liberal]

2. From Bush to the Gutter is UP

To paraphrase an old country song.

[Loonman]

3. Too bad, McClellen

You reap what you sow.

[callous taoboy]

5. Screw them!

All I heard during Clinton's last year was Lewinski, Blue Dress, cigars. Screw them!

[JPace]

16. Add to that Paula Jones and Whitewater....

and they were relentless in their pursuit
to destroy President Clinton.

"Gutter Tactics"



Notice how the repugs frame all the arguments?
Their billion dollar think tanks must have this
one fresh off their little busy think tank
thought sessions.

[denverbill]

Well, if anyone recognizes gutter politics, it's KKKarl Rove.

After all, calling Mccain's Asian adopted child the result of a fling with a black hooker was quite the gutter trick.

I can't wait to see what they have planned for Kerry.

[Catherine Vincent]

4. Republicans are assholes.

And it started with the republicans. The repuglicans put the "gutter" in politics. But let me ask the WH, why is it gutter politics when the democrats are asking questions regarding bush's guard duty? If they want to know an example of gutter politics, that's impeaching a popular president over lying about oral sex not with his wife. Now THAT is gutter politics, assholes!

[Sagan]

6. pobrecitas

What thou shalt sow, so shall ye reap.

[Jack from Charlotte]

7. It's as simple as this........

What do you have to hide?

That question should be asked of the Bushites in every newspaper letter to the editor every day and on every call in show.

[thebaghwan]

23. Yes, so let's get it out there folks. What will you do today to bring

down Bush in November???? Here is something you can easily do.

[xxqqqzme]

8. oh well

boofu**kinghoo. Like saurov wouldn't do the same given a chance - illegitimate black child ring a bell there sparky?

Sometimes U get the bear...sometimes the bear gets U. And this bunch of poachers is waaaaay over due

[UpInArms]

9. well, gee, when you're looking

for drunks and drugged out idiots, ya gotta look in the gutter!

We would not be going into the "gutter" if there were "honor and dignity" in the WH.

edited to add:

Democrats and other critics said the records were inadequate.

Lookie here folks! It's not just "Democrats" anymore - we have now got "other critics"!!!

[Manix]

10. BushCo, Atwater, Rove wrote the manual for gutter politics!!

nt

[Dhalgren]

11. A candidate (or encumbant) makes a certain claim

regarding his past. An opponent says that those claims are untrue and asks for proof. The accused either displays his proof (and shuts up the accusor) or admits that his facts were wrong. How is this "gutter" politics? Bush says he "served" with honor and completed his doody - uh, sorry - duty. The records don't seem to show this and his oppnents want clarification. I just don't see the "gutter" aspect of this. Now, if the Dems were publishing pictures and lurid articles regarding the "murder" committed by Pickles back in the 70's, then that would be "gutter". Or if they started trotting out all of the hookers who had humped Neil with no protection - that would be "gutter", but this? - No way.

[Fovea]

21. Yes

Pickles is a Janklow Republican.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

12. Poor, poor babies. I guess they didn't think about that when...

...they were conducting the phonecalling campaign against McCain prior to the 2000 GOP convention.

[belle]

26. Or, er, monopolizing our airwaves and tax money with Clinton's sex life.

Not that THAT was "gutter politics," no, they were morally outraged! Not because of the salacious details, all three thousand documented pages of them! No! Because Clinton LIED! To US! Under OATH! such Boy Scouts, those Republicans!

[monobrau]

13. Remember Willie Horton!

I also remember a certain third-rate burglary that was written off as just trash politics, too. It was the lying that did them in.
So keep lying, boys.

[Hamlette]

14. trolling for trash LOL

yeah...and we found plenty!

Did anyone see Jon Stewart on this last night? He was priceless.

The answer is, and always should be: "I'm fully prepared to show Bush the exact same level of respect the republican party showed Clinton."

[librechik]

15. which way did Clinton's Penis curve again?

I have to ask a Republican because I DON'T KNOW!

No what was this about gutter politics again???

[Fovea]

17. Well, they should know

being the experts and all.

Let's all forget the Clinton Wars,
the Florida voter scrubbing, the quasi
legal decision that guaranteed the rights
of rich white Republicans over the will
of poor black voters.

Then we need to forget the incestuous relationship
between ObL and GWB. It would also be useful if phrases
like: Old Europe, Axis of Evil, Mushroom Cloud, Personal Responsibility,
Compassionate Conservatism, and terms like Enron, Harken, Halliburton, Unocal, PNAC, PATRIOT, Gitmo, and No child left behind would fall out of our brains.

Because when we remember all that crap, we suddenly remember how we wound up down here in the gutter.

[The Sushi Bandit]

18. Oh, and like they treated Clinton with any less respect?

[Bandit]

19. Everything about this Administration is from the gutter

They know about gutter politics though. It is the one thing they are truely good at.

[tom_paine]

20. Like Hitler accsuing someone of anti-Semitism

This from that bunch of disgraceful Nixon Dirty Tricks Squad alumni who have expanded the Watergate-style operations some 10 or 20 fold, where now they are stealing Democratic computer documents right off Senate computers without fear of investigation nor prosecution (and likely commendation and promotion from Unka Karl once the "flap" dies down)

[jpak]

22. 'We will fuck him. Do you hear me? We will fuck him."

"We will ruin him. Like no one has ever fucked him!"

Tell us about gutter politics KKKarl!!!

[stopbush]

24. Takes one to know one...or is it just projection?

The bush-right wing gutter politics smears that include:

• Willie Horton/Dukakis
• Black child by a hooker/McCain
• Murderess, lesbian lover of Vince Foster, etc etc/Hillary
• Blow job from someone other than his wife/Bill Clinton
• Soft on defense/triple-amputee Max Clelland

The truth:

• Oops, Wille Horton's killings arose from a repig gov's decisions, not Dukakis
• Oops, it was Strom Thurmond who had the illegit black child
• Oops, it was Pickles who killed her old boyfriend
• Oops, it was Gingrich, Hyde and a host of other moralistic impeachers who had all of the affairs
• Oops, as it turns out, ALL repigs are soft on defense. In fact, they're hell-bent on destroying our military and punishing our vets when they get home...if they get home.

[Shadder]

25. Hang on tight, folks

This is only gonna get a lot worse before it starts to get better.

[AZCat]

27. Link to Colin Powell Question Thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1110320

Colin Powell was on the hill talking about Iraq and somebody (sen/rep?) asked him about AWOL.
He said something like, "Don't go there."
(see the thread for more)

[pink_poodle]

28. Accusing another country of being a threat so you can go..............

invade, kill them and then steal their oil, is gutter politics as far as I am concerned!!!!!!!!!

[radfringe]

29. some thoughts about AWOL-Bush

one of the GOPer talking points about the lack of totality of bush*'s records is that the national guard's record keeping wasn't very good during the time bush* was there...

this brings up a couple two-three questions:

if bush*'s records were incomplete or erroneous due to clerical errors - then how many OTHER Guardsmen's records are likewise screwed up?

are the any guardsmen that served during bush*'s time who have run into problems over the years because their records are likewise screwed up? If so, how did they straighten them out, or were they unable to straighten them out?

Has this problem ever been addressed? Is the record keeping accurate today? As troops come home from Iraq, can they be assured that their records are accurate and complete? How would they know?

the can of worms is deeper than just bush*'s records being 'screwed-up' -- this could effect many many many people

perhaps there should be an investigation just to make sure that record keeping is up to par...

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[thebaghwan]

31. kick

n/t

[progressivebydesign]

32. And what Rove did to McCain in South Carolina was NOT gutter politics?

These assbites can dish it out, but cannot take it. Someone needs to call Bush on that.. someone needs to dig out the shit they did against McCain in that GOP Primary.

[yellowcanine]

33. gutter politics? Heh. Glass House Dwellers Who Throw Stones, etc.

Karma is a bitch, ain't it Bushie and Roveman?

[Jack from Charlotte]

34. You repubs think this is gutter politics?............

You wait. It hasn't even started yet.

And the other day I heard someone say.........

"I have not yet begun to fight..... and that's coming from someone who knows FOR REAL a little something about aircraft carriers....."

Can't remember exactly who said that. Some US Navy war hero or some such..........

[SideshowScott]

35. Oh MAN the GOP and Bush is KILLING ME today!

I just cant stop laughing.. Fisrt it was them blameing Clinton for the bad intell now this..The GOP invented gutter poltics..There is no dirty trick, smear, fear tatic they wont use..Too rich..boy they must be crapping in thire pants now

[snippy]

36. From the people who spread the rumor that McCain had a "nigger" daughter?

[freethought]

37. Sen. John Mc Cain is grinning from ear to ear.

After Bush's stunt in South Carolina in 2000 who could blame him. I'd be dancing on my desk!

[NNN0LHI]

38. What was it when old man Bush called President Clinton "slick willy"?

Why that was just fine, eh? Boy, these Rethugs like to give it but they sure can't take it. The fuc*ing wimps.

Don

[Skittles]

39. those f***ing a**holes paved the way for "gutter politics"

when they spent 70 million bucks sniffing Clinton's crotch.

[truthisfreedom]

40. it's true, bushco, that there are gutter politics involved. and your guys

are the ones behind the gutter politics. all we want is the truth. BUT YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.