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gogoplata Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 05:25 AM
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Pakistan refuses to hand over terror suspects to India
Source: The Earth Times

Islamabad - Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari refused to extradite 20 suspects identified in India's list of wanted criminals, saying they would be tried in Pakistan if New Delhi provided hard evidence, media reports said Wednesday. "I am definitely going to look into all the possibility of any proof that is given to us. At the moment, these are just names of individuals. No proof, no investigation, nothing has been brought forward," Zardari said on CNN's Larry King Live program Tuesday night.

If proof of criminal activity is provided, "we would try them in our courts, we would try them in our land, and we would sentence them," he added.

Indian authorities on Monday gave a list of 20 suspected fugitives to Pakistani envoy in India demanding their repatriation. The list included Masood Azhar, a leader of the Islamic militant Jaish-e-Mohammed group, and Lashkar-e-Taiba chief Hafiz Mohammed Saeed.

It also included Mumbai crime lord Dawood Ibrahim, the alleged mastermind of the 1993 Mumbai bombings, and the Sikh leaders Wadhwan Singh, Ranjit Singh and Gajinder Singh, who are wanted in connection with an insurgency in Indian state of Punjab in the 1980s.

India's demand came as tensions ran high between the two South Asian nuclear-armed neighbours following Mumbai terrorist attacks that killed more than 180 people last week.

India say the lone surviving attacker, identified as Ajmal Amir Kasab, told police interrogators he was a Pakistani national.

But Zardari doubted the claims. "We have not been given any tangible proof to say that he is definitely a Pakistani. I very much doubt it," the president told CNN.

A report in Pakistan daily The Nation said there was nothing new in India's list of wanted men, saying it was the same list that New Delhi has been submitting to Pakistan after every terrorist attack on its soil during several years.

"Since it contains nothing new there would be no response at all from Pakistan," an official told the newspaper.

Read more: http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/244450,pakistan-refuses-to-hand-over-terror-suspects-to-india.html
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Kalyan Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:08 AM
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1. shame!
And Asif Zardari confirmed reports that PIGS DO FLY IN PAKISTAN ...

Asif is the epitome of all paki politicians .. lying hypocrites
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:16 AM
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2. It doesn't sound as if there's any proper evidence available yet
Extraditions usually require the kind of evidence that would get a court case to go ahead. I haven't even seen that Kasab has been charged in India yet; why would they think they could extradite people without solid evidence? A confession and accusations from Kasab (got in what circumstances?) wouldn't be enough evidence for a decent court.
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Kalyan Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:06 AM
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6. extraditions
so why can't Pakistan extradite
* Dawood Ibrahim (convicted in Indian courts for 1993 bomb blast). He is considered to be part of the AQ network. Indian govt has repeatedly claimed to have produced evidence of his presence in Lahore, a charge Pakistan denies
* Tiger Memom (convicted in Indian courts for 1993 bomb blast)
* Maulana Masood Azhar (released after kandahar IC814 hijacking and later attacked Indian parliament in December 2001 bringing Ind-Pak to the brink of a nuclear war). Pakistan refused to acknowledge his presence in the country till 2003. He server a "house arrest" sentence for one year in 2004.
* Mushtaq Ahmed Zargar (kidnapped Rubaiya Sayeed and released along with Maulana after Kandahar IC814 hijacking. He is currently in PoK recruiting youngsters as cross border militants)
* Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh (arrested for kidnap & murder of British tourists in Kashmir in 1994 - released along with Maulana after Kandahar IC 814.) Sheikh went on to act as conduit to transfer $100,000 to Mohammad Atta to fund the 9/11 bombings. He later went on to kill Daniel Pearl in 2002.

So - tell me again, why should Pakistan not be considered the hotbed of global terrorism
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 06:10 AM
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8. It took 3 years to extradite a murderer from India to Britain - the 1st ever such extradition
after 100 hearings and 30 appeals - and that was when there was DNA evidence.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/3518839/Hannah-Foster-Kohli-was-first-person-to-be-extradited-from-India-to-UK.html

If it's so hard to extradite from India to Britain, I imagine the extraditions from India to Pakistan, or the other way round, are pretty rare. Countries have to be very friendly before they start trusting people (especially their own citizens) to other countries' legal systems.

And I'm not going to look up the others, but I know Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh is in prison for Pearl's murder. So extradition in his case would be pointless. And it was India who released him, wasn't it?
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 01:14 PM
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3. Another proof that Pakistan has to be destroyed
and balkanized into little countries with small armies.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 06:59 PM
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4. Mumbai police to use truth serum on 'baby-faced' terrorist Azam Amir Kasab
Edited on Wed Dec-03-08 07:01 PM by ohio2007
The guy is a hero to a large population in Pakistan. What are the ISI er,..Pakistani's afraid of ? If they hand him over , India might get him to talk like the baby face jihadi

oh, the things he could say
Mumbai police to use truth serum on 'baby-faced' terrorist Azam Amir Kasab
Indian police interrogators are preparing to administer a "truth serum" on the sole Islamic militant captured during last week's terror attacks on Mumbai to settle once and for all the question of where he is from.

The mystery of the man dubbed "the baby-faced gunman" has weighed heavily on India's relations with Pakistan as the nuclear-armed neighbours dispute each other's accounts of his origin.

Police interrogators in Mumbai told The Times that they have "verified" that Azam Amir Kasab, who was captured after a shoot-out in a Mumbai railway station on Wednesday night, is from Faridkot, a small village in Pakistan's impoverished south Punjab region. They say that the nine dead gunmen are also Pakistani.


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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article5280084.ece


The truth is out there


if you want to believe what he says
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:43 PM
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5. Pakistan has not even "tried" AQ Khan
forget about extraditing him to US.

AQ Khan is a known criminal.

He is a Hero to most Pakistanis.

Similarly, Dawood Ibrahim lives a luxurious lifestyle in Karachi.

He is a known terrorist and a wanted man in India.
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:11 AM
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7. Cut off funds from SOBs
:mad:
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 07:33 PM
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9. US wants four ex-ISI officials declared terrorists ( throw them under the bus )
ISLAMABAD: The US has given four names of former ISI officials, including Lt-Gen (retd) Hameed Gul, to the UN Security Council to put them on the list of international terrorists.Government of Pakistan is aware of this move, which is considered here by some as part of an international conspiracy to target the ISI, whose reformation has already been sought by Washington.

The US embassy in Islamabad claims to be completely unaware of this move while the foreign office spokesman also did not come up with any explanation on the matter despite being approached on Tuesday.However, Lt-Gen (retd) Hameed Gul confirmed to this correspondent that he was included in the list of those four or five former ISI officials whose names had been provided to the UN secretary-general by the US government to be included in the list of international terrorists.

Gul admitted that he had already met the foreign affairs secretary to discuss the issue. A Foreign Office source also told this correspondent that the issue had already been referred to the prime minister’s office but despite the lapse of a few weeks, no decision had been taken by the government so far. It is not clear whether or not Islamabad wants to pursue intense lobbying to stop this thing to happen.

A diplomatic source in Washington, however, told this correspondent that it would not be easy for the United States to get all these names enlisted in the list of terrorists because it would require the consent of the all the five permanent members of the Security Council.

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http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=18775
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