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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 02:30 AM
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Pakistan attack on 'war' supplies
Source: BBC

More than 60 lorries supplying Western forces in Afghanistan have been set on fire in a suspected militant attack in north-west Pakistan, police say.

One report said the lorries were laden with Humvee vehicles.

"They fired rockets, hurled hand grenades and then set ablaze 96 trucks," Reuters news agency quoted a police officer, Azeem Khan, as saying.

Another report said 62 lorries had been set on fire.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7769758.stm



I don't know about the discrepency in the vehicle count...either way, that is quite a strike.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 02:42 AM
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1. And why is the headline "Pakistan attack"?
Misleading, isn't it?

I'm beginning to get the idea that someone wants us to attack Pakistan. :shrug:
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 02:57 AM
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2. Lots of little tidbits
in the news today that support that idea.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 03:13 AM
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3. I've been getting that idea for some time now. n/t
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 03:14 AM
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4. reading comprehension is your friend
the headline says nothing about Pakistanis attacking

it was Pakistan attack

as the attack happened in Pakistan-if you'd bother to read the article, you'd understand the headline


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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 09:08 AM
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7. the tin foil is unraveling so..... nt
;)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 01:01 PM
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16. Judith Miller, is that you? n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 12:57 PM
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13. I read the article and that's why I know the headline is misleading
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:08 PM
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19. you misunderstood the headline
big difference between that and that the headline is misleading


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 01:28 PM
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26. No, I didn't misunderstand the headline which is not only misleading
but also deserves a ticket from the grammar police.

It's the same misleading cr@p that the New York Times is pulling today, with their "report" that the group responsible for Mumbai is supported by the ISI. They have no source and they're conflating a long history into the present tense. Pakistan is being pressured in the press and maybe rightfully but it's being done through innuendo and smear just as in this headline.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 11:04 AM
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12. I don't know, I just copied-and-pasted from the article...
it was the BBC's headline.

Why did they put 'War' in quotation marks? :shrug:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 12:58 PM
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14. Oh, I know you did! n/t
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douglas9 Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 08:49 AM
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5. Dozens of NATO supply trucks torched in Pakistan
Source: Associated Press

PESHAWAR, Pakistan (AP) — Suspected militants attacked a Pakistan transport terminal used to supply NATO and U.S. troops in neighboring Afghanistan, killing a guard and burning 106 vehicles early Sunday, an official said.

The assault was the boldest yet on trucks carrying critical supplies to foreign troops in Afghanistan, feeding concern that Taliban militants could cut or seriously disrupt the route through the famed Khyber Pass.

Up to 75 percent of the supplies for Western forces in the landlocked country pass through Pakistan after being unloaded from ships at the Arabian sea port of Karachi.

About 30 assailants armed with guns and rockets attacked the Portward Logistic Terminal near the city of Peshawar before dawn Sunday, police official Kashif Alam said.

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hkiMxbHNH0BqgpWA2ZG6VD6wVTmAD94TQCPO0
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 09:05 AM
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6. Pakistan military taking control ( civilian govt "paralyzed" )
CONCERN grew in India yesterday that the Pakistan army had taken charge of the country's response to the Mumbai terror attacks and effectively staged a coup against the country's nascent democracy.

Fears of a full-scale resumption of power by the army in Islamabad lie behind India's relatively cautious response to the crisis, despite New Delhi's insistence that elements in Pakistan orchestrated the slaughter in Mumbai.

snip

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24764755-2703,00.html
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 01:00 PM
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15. Ah, Indian concern trolls and unidentified "analysts" hard at work, I see.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:21 PM
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20. you shilling for Lashkar-e-Taiba militants in Kashmir ?
UPDATE 1-Pakistani forces take over militant camp - witness

Pakistani security forces took over a camp used by Lashkar-e-Taiba militants in Pakistani Kashmir on Sunday, a witness and an official from a charity linked to Lashkar said.

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Pakistan banned Lashkar after it was blamed for the December, 2001, attack on India's parliament, which brought the nuclear-armed South Asian neighbours to the brink of a fourth war. Pakistan also put Jamaat-ud-Dawa on a watch-list and was added several years later the list of terrorist organisations by the United States.

Lashkar founder, Hafiz Saeed, one of the most wanted men in India, quit the group in 2001 but remained head of the charity.

http://in.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idINL756036920081207

But then again you said India shouldn't concern themselves with false security warnings;
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3602399#3602919
Booga-booga.
:shrug:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:26 PM
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22. Seems like India should be concerned...
with India's terrorists...long article...

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JK22Df03.html

South Asia
Nov 22, 2008
Faith in India's army shaken by blasts
By Sudha Ramachandran

BANGALORE - Investigations into recent bomb blasts in India have led to the arrest of several Hindus and for the first time ever, a serving officer of the Indian army

The arrests have triggered heated debate on whether the arrests indicate the existence of "Hindu terrorism". More worryingly, the probes point to the possibility of the hitherto secular and apolitical Indian army being infected by the communal virus.


Six people were killed and over 80 injured in blasts on September 29 in the Muslim-dominated town of Malegaon, about 260 kilometers from Mumbai. A few hours later, a bomb went off near a mosque in Modasa town in Gujarat, where Muslims were
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But even as Indians are heatedly debating whether "Hindu terrorism" exists, another worrying issue has been thrown up by the investigations. Three men arrested in connection with the Malegaon blasts are from the armed forces. They include one serving officer, Lieutenant Colonel Prasad Shrikant Purohit, and two retired officers, Major Ramesh Upadhyay and Colonel Shailesh Raikar.

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The arrest of serving and retired army officers in connection with terrorist attacks has triggered a spate of worrying questions. Have Hindu supremacist and extremist ideologies penetrated the hitherto secular Indian army? Are Purohit and others an aberration or do they point to a growing trend in the Indian armed forces?
Sudha Ramachandran is an independent journalist/researcher based in Bangalore.

(Copyright 2008 Asia Times Online (Holdings) Ltd. All rights reserved. Please contact us about sales, syndication and republishing.)

Other stories:
India fears the dawn of Hindutva terror
(Oct 31,'08)

The tip of India's terror iceberg
(Sep 30,'08)


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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 09:08 AM
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8. Where are Pakistan's lawyers & judges. . ?
Weren't they the leading force for a democratic government? Has the ISI taken over the government now?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 04:53 PM
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17. It's significant, to my mind, that the best hope to shore up democracy in Pakistan
seems to have been ignored by BushCo.

The lawyers have a LOT of respect among the people.

:shrug:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 09:15 AM
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9. Another illiterate headline. And from the BBC too.
Edited on Sun Dec-07-08 09:16 AM by bemildred
Sigh.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 09:19 AM
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10. quick,. lets send more US soldiers there into the quagmire
and up the ante even more.get ready folks, we have another IRAQ on our hands. everyone dont forget to buy your chinese made 'support our troops' yellow ribbons and hang flags on your car.
this is just a taste of what will come when the troop buildup starts in afghanistan.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 10:20 AM
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11. Don't worry "Pakistan military taking control "
snip
The ISI has longstanding and close ties to the al-Qa'ida-linked Lashkar-e-Toiba organisation believed to be responsible for the Mumbai attacks. Until late last year, General Kayani, now much favoured by Washington, was the commander of the ISI, and General Pasha is one of his closest confidants. Analysts believe the Mumbai assault was carried out to provide an opportunity for the army to reassert itself as the ultimate power in Pakistan, and to sideline the elected Government led by President Asif Ali Zardari.

General Kayani is believed to be calling the shots on Islamabad's response to the crisis.

In another assessment of the Mumbai fallout, another leading analyst has underlined the links that exist between al-Qa'ida and Lashkar-e-Toiba.



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http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24764755-2703,00.html

let them bind the wounds of their civil war


meanwhile;

Barak will take it from there by "making decisions" in the comming months


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkAEkA81TUA

save it to favorite places. Of course, the video could dissappear anytime so
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 04:59 PM
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18. .....
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:23 PM
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21. .
Edited on Sun Dec-07-08 07:34 PM by ohio2007
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:31 PM
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23. sounds like the same thing bush said before he went to iraq.
Edited on Sun Dec-07-08 07:35 PM by Mari333
no different.
anyone who supports a surge in afghanistan should either enlist, demand their children enlist, or demand a draft.
the soldiers are doing 4-5 deployments and are being used up.
i am saying the same thing i said when bush wanted to send troops.
if you are for sending troops, then be willing to go yourself or sendyour own children.
otherwise, its chickenhawks talking. and i said the same thing about bush.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:35 PM
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24. Barack is Bush light?
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:37 PM
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25. regarding a troop surge to 'get the terra ists', yes.
on other issues, perhaps not. i will wait and see and hopefully he will think about how this will affect the troops who are so worn out they can barely keep going, who have been stop lossed and sent over for so many deployments.
hugs
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