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AKing Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:10 AM
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Source: Feds take Gov. Blagojevich into custody
Source: Chicago Tribune

A source said today that Gov. Rod Blagojevich was taken into federal custody at his North Side home this morning. The U.S. attorney's office would not confirm the information, and a spokesman for the governor did not immediately return a phone call for comment.

Read more: http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/12/source-feds-take-gov-blagojevich-into-custody.html
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:19 AM
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1. Some background for those not aware:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-rod-blagojevich-1209,0,7997804.story


I can't tell if Blagovich is a crook, just a politician, or if he is getting Sieglemanned.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:59 AM
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23. He's a crook. No two ways about it.
I knew he was a crook when I voted for him in the 2006 GE, but then again, so was Topinka.

I did vote against Blago in the primary.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:10 AM
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29. I voted for him too, but with the assumption he'd be indicted and Quinn would step in.
I don't know if Topinka is crooked but we needed a Dem in office to appoint successors to either Obama or Durbin, either of whom in 2006 looked like they would be moving to the whitehouse in some capacity or another.
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Blaq Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 12:23 AM
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222. I heard he was selling Obama's senator seat on Ebay
LOL
Current bid - $679,010.01
Ebay link

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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:08 AM
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82. Wonder Who's Next In Line
Is the appointment jeopardized? Is the Lt. Governor a Republican? I wonder, how is it they got him on tape, did someone set him up, or is this part of HS, and spying on everyone.

Personally, I've always thought one of the reasons Bush wanted to spy on everyone is for a sort of legalized Watergate, to get the dirt on everyone. It'd explain a lot about why Democrats haven't pursued any of the criminals, as I'm sure there is a lot of stuff in the closet that could be under threat of exposure.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:17 PM
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117. REMEMBER ELIOT SPITZER?
Blagojevich may be crooked, but then what about some of the Republicans? How many of them have been indicted? Are the phones of outgoing Bush administration members being wiretapped as they arrange jobs on their ways out of the Bush administration? The whole Paulson give-away. How many jobs are being bought with that money? I am not in a position to know, but as long as they are wiretapping, I should think that the phones in the Dept. of Treasury and at the Fed would be a good place to start.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #117
150. While I am not arguing about whether this guy is crooked or not,
it sure seems that when the Dems are named/caught, they seem to be much more severely treated, both by the papers and the prosecutors.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 04:56 PM
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173. Our last governor was also indicted. And convicted. And a Republican. nt
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 04:54 PM
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172. I voted Green. I was not going to help this man win office.
And shame on those who did.
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:54 AM
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108. Fitzgerald's press release here
Pretty detailed - Fitz don't mess around. This guy's name is mud now; unfortunately, the rethugs can use that mud to throw at Obama.

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/pr/chicago/2008/pr1209_01.pdf
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:21 PM
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120. Don't have time to read all the details. How might the pukes use this against Obama?
He is entirely out of the loop eh?

Thanks :hi:
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 04:32 PM
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170. They think he is hiding everything about his life.
From fr, so you don't have to:

On Obama, Fitzgerald: "There is no allegation in the criminal complaint about the president-elect and that’s all I’m going to say."

When did we ever hear somebody say "that's all I'm going to say" when there wasn't something else to say? And note carefully that his answer was limited to what wasn't in the complaint. Heh.
665 posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:24:37 AM

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:11 PM
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112. Your source is the Chicago Tribune, a right-wing rag.
The evidence sounds strong as reported in the news media, but the news media, especially the Chicago Tribune, is extremely right wing.

We subscribed to the L.A. Times for years. I dropped my subscription after the Times fired Robert Scheer and refused for the longest time to publish anything about the Downing Street Memos or other facts that indicated that the Bush administration lied before going into Iraq.

Somehow, the Times talked us into renewing our subscriptions for the weekend. My husband likes to get the local news. But they are as bad as ever -- right wing, right wing, extreme, disgusting, can't read the paper it is so biased. Ronald Brownstein should retire already, for example.

The fact that Blagojevich does not cooperate with the Tribune shows to me that he is a fighter.

Have you ever wondered how Cheney got his position at Halliburton after years of government service? After all, aren't government bureaucrats allegedly incompetent?

The list of people in high government positions who waltz in and out of top jobs in big business or non-profits (think Libby Dole at the Red Cross) and get their wives into well-paid positions at the tops the boards of various corporations is very long. And trading jobs for campaign donations and favors goes way back. Blagojevich may have been very blatant, and I do not approve of what he did, but I reserve my judgment as to just how unusual he is.

Let's see how many of the incompetent refugees from the top positions in the Bush administration end up on unemployment? Want to guess a number? Now that would the pool to win. Remember Wolfowitz? I wonder where Browny went.

Is it corruption? Maybe. Did Blagojevich commit corruption? Possibly. But I don't know that his corruption is all that unusual. I wonder what kind of wheeling and dealing Bush has done to get his library going?
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:47 AM
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223. The LA Times is owned by the Chicago Tribune Co. I smell a rat too.

Blago has been dogged since he stepped into the governor's mansion. He succeeds a crooked, convicted repug governor and we know about the right wing eye for an eye mentality: If one of theirs goes down, they will take down a dem even if they are not guilty for perception and publicity's sake. Take Jimmy Carter who succeeded Nixon. Carter was dogged for Nixon's sins. Clinton was hounded for winning basically. And now governors are getting the same treatment--being run out of office and Dems being the object of witch hunts.

I see the "evidence" against Blago but what I also see is a governor being dragged out of his home at 6AM for the worst possible mug shot. If that's isn't a calculated publicity stunt I don't know what it because where was the governor going to be that he couldn't be arrested at say, 9AM or noon? He is the GOVERNOR. There is no risk of flight from such a high profile individual.

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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 03:47 PM
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167. Trust me...
he's a crook and a liar. I know of what I speak. I hope they lock the little bastard away. :mad:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:21 AM
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2. a bit more here: Blago's Sen selection process investigated Fed probe widens to Obama's vacant seat
From the Chicago Tribune
TRIBUNE EXCLUSIVE

Blagojevich's Senate selection process investigatedFederal probe widens to Obama's vacant seat
By Jeff Coen, David Kidwell and Monique Garcia | Tribune staff reporters
6:35 AM EST, December 9, 2008
UPDATE: Source: Feds take Gov. Blagojevich into custody

A source said today that Gov. Rod Blagojevich was taken into federal custody at his North Side home this morning. The U.S. attorney's office would not confirm the information, and a spokesman for the governor did not immediately return a phone call for comment.

A three-year federal corruption investigation of pay-to-play politics in Gov. Rod Blagojevich's administration has expanded to include his impending selection of a new U.S. senator to succeed President-elect Barack Obama, the Tribune has learned.

Federal authorities got approval from a judge before the November general election to secretly record the governor, sources told the Tribune, and among their concerns was whether the selection process might be tainted. That possibility has become a focus in an intensifying investigation that has included recordings of the governor and the cooperation of one of his closest friends.

The governor has not been accused of any wrongdoing. The specific contents of the recent recordings have not been disclosed. Blagojevich has said the appointment of a Senate successor, which is his choice alone, could come in a matter of weeks.

more:http://www.newsday.com/iphone/chi-rod-blagojevich-1209,0,4048252.story?track=rss
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:43 AM
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13. Sources: Blagojevich, chief of staff arrested and taken into custody
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 09:49 AM by maddezmom
Sources: Blagojevich, chief of staff arrested and taken into custody


12/09/2008

CHICAGO -- The Associated Press is reporting that Gov. Rod Blagojevich was arrested on federal charges.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/illinoisnews/story/689ECFC9A9106C0C8625751A00500C5B?OpenDocument


Blagojevich, chief of staff arrested on federal charges
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December 9, 2008 - 8:40 AM
CHICAGO (AP) – Authorities in Chicago have arrested Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich on federal charges.

U.S. Attorney’s office spokesman Randall Samborn says both Blagojevich and his chief of staff John Harris were arrested Tuesday.

Authorities aren’t yet releasing details about those charges.

Federal prosecutors have investigated Blagojevich’s administration for at least three years. They’ve been looking at everything from how he hired people for state jobs to the actions of friends and contributors.

more:http://www.thetelegraph.com/news/arrested_21063___article.html/blagojevich_chicago.html
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:29 AM
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3. Source: Feds take Gov. Blagojevich into custody
Source: Chicago Tribune


Source: Feds take Gov. Blagojevich into custody
December 9, 2008 at 8:26 AM | Comments (0)

A source said today that Gov. Rod Blagojevich was taken into federal custody at his North Side home this morning. The U.S. attorney's office would not confirm the information.

A Blagojevich spokesman said he was unaware of the development. "Haven't heard anything -- you are first to call," Lucio Guerrero said in an e-mail.

The stunning, early morning visit by authorities to the governor's North Side home came amid revelations that federal investigators had recorded the governor with the cooperation of a longtime confidant and had begun to focus on the possibility that the process of choosing a Senate successor to President-elect Barack Obama could be tainted by pay-to-play politics.

Blagojevich was taken into custody hours after the Tribune reported that the investigation into allegations of pay-to-play politics within his administration had been expanded to include his pending choice of a Senate replacement for Obama. The Democratic governor has said he expects to make a decision on the state's next senator in weeks.

Read more: http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/12/source-feds-take-gov-blagojevich-into-custody.html
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:29 AM
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4. With ALL the Republican crooks and perverts that have.........
.........been indicted and convicted it's only reasonable that a few (VERY few) Dems are corrupted also. I am originally from Il (54 yrs) and my understanding is this guy ain't liked by hardly anyone there.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:00 AM
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24. Party affiliation has zip to do with corruption. "Power corrupts, etc"
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:54 AM
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75. BUT, even with massive Republican control over.............
.......national and regional governments over the last 30 yrs, the majority of "corruption" cases have been Republicans. My theory is that the people that run as Republicans are more "business types" and that thinking overflows into their political careers.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:41 AM
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101. the problem is that when the Dems were in power there was tons of Dem corruption also. The
ability to be corrupt and to get away with it goes up the more power you have.



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petwlkr Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:36 PM
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127. That is my biggest fear
IF it turns out that the charges against Gov. Blago are legit than the justice department under an Obama administration needs to make an example out of him. Obama has to send a clear message to the our elected officials in general but to the Democratic Party in particular that corruption will NOT be tolerated. Last thing we need are a bunch of Dems following in the Repug footsteps and feeling above the law because they control the White House, the Senate and Congress now. If that happens you can bet that the Democratic majority won't last long and in the blink of an eye the Republican Party will be in control again.
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:48 AM
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224. What "tons of Dem corruption also" are you talking about? I don't recall that. nt
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patriotvoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:17 PM
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116. Proof? I'm not convinced that the "majority" of corruption cases are Republican.
I would heartily STFU with documentation provided, however. In the absence of actual documentation, I would assume a 49/49/2 split (R/D/Other).
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #24
113. Just watch the osmosis between the Bush administration
and top jobs in big business. And remember Libby Dole at the Red Cross? I'm sure she was qualified but so were a lot of other people who had devoted their lives to non-profit work.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:17 PM
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118. Yep. I would say that corrupt Dems are usually better at governimg than corrupt Repos, but so are
non- corrupt Dems are better at governing than non-corrupt Repos.

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 02:04 PM
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154. I prefer the not corrupt Dems and Repubs, but, I have watched
the Bush administration wallow in corruption the past and also watched the Siegelmen case and am, as a result, extremely skeptical when yet another Democrat is indicted while Republicans who are a thousand times more corrupt are indicted only when the corruption is so embarrassing that it is hurting the Republican Party at the polls.

Where are the indictments against the many, many, many, many Republicans in the Bush administration who have committed acts of corruption?

And where are Rove's e-mails? And why hasn't Rove testified in front of Congress?
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #154
166. Our Dem majorty leaders in congress seem quiet on that stuff. There's a report out that
the Obama camp helped bust the gov.
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:49 AM
Response to Reply #118
225. Which corrupt dems are you referring to? n/t
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 01:53 PM
Response to Reply #225
228. The first Richard Daily for instance. The King Fish, Huey Long are a couple.

Anyway, I was basically generalizing
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:10 AM
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30. He must have really twisted some arms to get elected
If nobody likes him it must be because they are scared of him and his connections.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:28 AM
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91. 13% approval.....
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:41 AM
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102. exactly look at reid pelosi dodd frank---crooked to the core
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Joe Collins Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:59 PM
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137. don't forget Rangel
gotta admire his chutzpah with the Bahama rental property and not paying tax on that income! And Pelosi agrees to leave him in charge of his tax committee.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 02:25 PM
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162. Yup. How many Repukes have had their phones tapped over the last 8 years?
Rod may be corrupt, but this is a partisan political witchhunt, and the new DoJ in January needs to find out why only Dems have been prosecuted during Rove's term as Resident.
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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:31 AM
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5. I saw him on the teevee
Standing with the Republic Window workers yesterday. Pay back?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:40 AM
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59. No, he was pulling a George Ryan
Ryan wasn't against the death penalty but suspended the death penalty to pump up public opinion hoping the DoJ wouldn't come and get him. Blago does not support unions or workers rights but stood there in front of the cameras supporting Republic workers hoping that the good publicity would stop the Feds from coming after him.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:03 AM
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79. No, they didn't gin up this investigation overnight

I wouldn't know Blagojevich from a hole in the ground, but if these allegations are anywhere near true, the guy should hang.
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JudyInTheHeartland Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:33 AM
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6. Was this Fitz???
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:34 AM
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7. yup
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:03 AM
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26. With Fitz around,,,,,
Illinios Govs will never finish their terms in office! I wonder if anyone will run next election! :rofl:

I wonder who our Lieutinent Gov is?
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:14 AM
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32. Lt Gov is Pat Quinn. Honest man but a little weird.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:57 AM
Response to Reply #32
77. If I remember correctly, his "weirdness" is because he is............
...........a Liberal. What I can remember of his early political career is that he pushed for liberal causes that were unpopular (in some circles) at the time.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:45 AM
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105. No, I'm actually thinking of various interviews I've seen him do.
He always seems like his meds are wearing off. I have had no problem with his positions on issues, though.
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AKing Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:37 AM
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8. Blago and his Chief of Staff were arrested for Bribery and Mail Fraud...
Just announced on WFLD-TV
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AKing Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:41 AM
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11. OMG, Arrested for trying to sell US Senate Appiontment,among other things..
I'm sick to my stomach
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:44 AM
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:37 AM
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9. OK, one day he threatens Bank of America, next day he is arrested.
He may be crooked, I don't know, but I think he might be being Siegelmanned.

http://www.kentucky.com/103/story/620572.html

They (Bushco) don't even try to hide it anymore, do they?

:tinfoilhat:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:39 AM
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10. DAMN! This is seemingly "the ruling political class" vs. "the rest of us"
:scared: :wow:
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:49 AM
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15. I thought the very same thing...
The day after he speaks out against BOA, he's arrested.

How convenient.

However, now I hear that Fitz is on this, so it may not be as untoward as it appears.

The timing is quite eerie though.

I imagine that every politician in this country has engaged in plenty of activities that would
warrant "being taken into custody." They've got the goods on nearly all of them.

My guess is that the trigger gets pulled when they step out of line.

Yesterday's tin foil: Today's America!
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:53 AM
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17. No tinfoil this time, this guy is a crook
Everybody in Illinois politics is dogpiling on BoA.

This guy is manifestly a crook. He should have been in jail a long time ago. I read from other threads is that he was selling the Senate seat (or at least trying to get rid of Fitz through friendly Senate seat appointments (the senators get to choose the US Attorney).
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:21 PM
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121. I know by now that there is nothing too small or insignificant for the DU tinfoil hats to come out,
so it was a pretty sure bet that they would come out now. Sometimes it seems to be a Liberal you must be convinced that anything and everything is a potential plot or conspiracy.
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Luciferous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:10 AM
Original message
Everyone in Illinois knows the guy is corrupt
so I don't think it has anything to do with BoA. They've been investigating him for a while. They probably wanted to get to him before he gave away Obama's seat to the highest bidder.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:43 AM
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61. He spoke out against BoA hoping the good publicity would stop his arrest
Blago is crooked, from the tiny hairs on his toes to the mass of wavy hairs on his head. A very crooked corrupt man. We here all know this.

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:50 PM
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134. Then there is Schwarzenegger who apparently appointed his
nanny to a state commission.

California has often been tagged as the “nanny state” for passing laws that some people say interfere with citizens’ lives. But now it has earned the label for a whole different reason, thanks to Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

The Republican governor this week appointed a nanny – his own children’s nanny, in fact – as a part-time state regulator on the Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. Lindsay Ann Schnaidt, 32, a Democrat from Hermosa Beach who has worked for the Schwarzenegger family for seven years, will be paid $100 a day when the board meets, several times a year.

“She expressed an interest in serving the people of California like many other Californians do,” said Schwarzenegger’s spokesman, Aaron McLear. “The governor wants those interested in serving to have that opportunity.”

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/nov/07/local/me-nanny7

As long as we are relying on the Chicago Tribune, might as well rely on the L.A. Times. This is just an example of Schwarzenegger's generosity to those who are loyal to him. As far as I know he faces no prosecution for rewarding his kid's nanny with this little boost to her income at taxpayer expense. Of course, maybe she has a lifelong devotion to seeing eye dogs. Maybe she even has a cousin who is blind. What do I know? But it still looks bad.

Thus far the accusations are that Blagojevich was willing to make an appointment in exchange for a non-profit job for himself and a board position for his wife when he leaves office and campaign contributions and that he refused to support the Chicago Tribune's sale of Wrigley Stadium because the Tribune did not support him. Let's see. Is that like not supporting the New York Times/Fox News's business dealings because of their offensive reporting about your administration(depending on which side you are on)? That may violate freedom of the press, but there must be something I don't understand if that is a crime.

Isn't there an allegation that the Bush administration was demanding certain political support from news media such as CBS News? Is anyone investigating that?

Is anyone investigating the Bush administration's granting of no-bid contracts to the former employer of Dick Cheney?

Blagojevich's acts may have been criminal, may not have been criminal. I don't see enough detail. These are broad allegations and discussions out of context. But, while Fitzgerald is playing the dedicated, no-holds barred prosecutor, why didn't he have the courage to call Cheney at Scooter Libby's trial?

Even if the indictment of Blagojevich is justified, there are bigger fish to fry, and Fitzgerald has had the opportunity to go fishing. He is very competent, but nonetheless another Republican hack in my view. Had he called Cheney to the stand, I would believe otherwise.

Is it possible that Fitzgerald indicted Blagojevich because Fitzgerald has to turn in his resignation in January along with all the other Republican federal prosecutors? This was his last chance to insure a career for himself after his prosecutor position ends. Does he fear having offended his potential future bosses by going after Scooter Libby.

Here in California some of the Republicans in Congress were caught red-handed and never indicted. The evidence was signed, sealed and delivered, but they were never indicted. The Republicans including Fitzgerald have gone after Democratic corruption with vengeance and left Republican corruption to go unchecked. I support clean government, but clean government starts with balance and love of justice, not political vendettas in the prosecutor's office. I would be more supportive of the Blagojevich indictment if I knew of similar indictments of Republican governors. I assure you, Blagojevich's conduct is probably not all that remarkable for people in governor's offices especially in certain areas of the country.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:24 PM
Response to Reply #15
123. On top of Eliot Spitzer, this is systematic.
Meanwhile, back at the Dept. of Treasury, Paulson's friends in big banks and investment firms are all enjoying their stocking stuffers from the taxpayers. Jolly, jolly, ho, ho, ho.

Patrick Fitzgerald, Merry Christmas.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 04:58 PM
Response to Reply #123
174. Some of us are tired of being governed by this corrupt POS
and welcome his indictment. You don't know what you're talking about.

I'm thinking of sending Fitzgerald a gift!
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:54 AM
Response to Reply #174
226. He does know what he is talking about. And Illinois was been governed
by corrupt POSs before Blago.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:56 AM
Response to Reply #9
18. Is Spitzered a Better Word
?
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:34 AM
Response to Reply #9
53. I think you have cause and effect mixed up.
Blagojevich knew he was sunk when the fact that his conversations had been taped was released. His BoA announcement was nothing more than a stunt to make him look like a populist.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:08 PM
Response to Reply #9
139. Day after his statement about bank is a bit suspicious.
If he was targeted selectively because of statement about Bank of America, that would be wrong.

If that is the case, it may be targeted justice, where the crime is common, but only political enemies are singled out and prosecuted.

Simply put, if a person is only prosecuted because they have a political opinion against power.

That is the same thing as selling a Senate seat.

I am not saying he should not be prosecuted, I am saying that everyone that does the same thing should be equally prosecuted, or they are doing the exact same strong arm tactics as he has been accused of.

Does that make sense?
Selected justice is not justice, because it allows crime so that it can exert influence by picking and choosing which officials to target.

So prosecute him, and others that do the same thing.

However if nobody else in congress or state office is known to request newspapers to fire editors, or money for grants to hospitals, or the other things he is being accused of, this is a good day. Because then it would be justice.


They also said that the Senator that Mr. Obama recommended for the seat withdrew their application. This bodes well for that Senator and Mr. Obama, since it may indicate they refused to go along with what the allegation says the Governor was doing.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:42 AM
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12. Oops!
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 09:43 AM by acmavm
<snip>

Sources told the Tribune that investigators intensified their investigation into Blagojevich amid concerns that the process of choosing a new senator could be tainted. The actions by federal authorities came a day before Blagojevich's 52nd birthday.

The Tribune previously disclosed that federal investigators had recordings of Blagojevich. Those recordings were aided by the cooperation of longtime Blagojevich confidant and former congressional chief of staff John Wyma.

edit: We all need to hear these 'recordings'.
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:44 AM
Response to Reply #12
104. If he's a crook, get 'im, but . . .
being recorded with the help of a close associate sends up some red flags with me. Having been in this situation myself, I know the cooperating associate is fed the proper words and subjects to click the trap shut.

On the otherhand, Fitz's involvement here makes me think there's probably plenty of fire producing the smoke.

I'd be extremely pissed at the guy for putting a cloud over Obama's inauguration and giving the Rethugs something to hammer with.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #104
145. Your right there,
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 01:35 PM by RandomThoughts
Also perspective can be out of balance. Hundreds of recordings trying to get one sentance, then that one sentance is all that is shown to people.

This is a common tactic. Imagine if one sarcastic remark, one off color joke, or one thing said in frustration is used to create your image with the public.

However I am not saying this is the case here. There seems to be a few indications of corruption they site. I have seen that also, when people work off of a script, gathering pieces of a different conversations, knowing that when they compile them together they will tell the story they want to tell.


I do still wonder if this could be targeted justice, and others that do the same thing are not procecuted unless they get power upset. That would be wrong, and would be a lack of justice.

I would guess when we also see the top executives of 'power', like banks, and other institutions also indicted(if they have done wrong), we will know people are procecuted for crimes, not to control their actions or speech, but for justice.

Targeted justice just isn't spoken about enough, the idea that if everyone is not held to the same law, then effectivly the law does not exist.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:45 AM
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14. They must have some pretty damning evidence
The Feds take their sweet time investigating stuff like this, dotting every i and crossing every t, and often take years in painstakingly putting their case together. They do *not* go around arresting state Governors without absolutely overwhelming evidence. So I think he's probably screwed.
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AKing Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:53 AM
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16. Supposedly they have recordings
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #14
22. You Bet Your Ass There Was a Rush Order
CHICAGO — Gov. Rod Blagojevich ordered all state agencies Monday to stop doing business with Bank of America to try to pressure the bank into helping laid-off workers staging a sit-in at their shuttered factory.

http://www.kentucky.com/103/story/620572.html
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:28 AM
Response to Reply #22
51. You're confusing cause and effect.
Blagojevich knew he was sunk as soon as it was publicized that his conversations were being recorded. He made his BoA announcement to curry favor with the public.

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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #51
57. Yes- I think you've got it
He wanted people to react to his impending arrest the way many posters in this thread are.

As if the Feds could throw together a quick fake corruption case, complete with plenty of manufactured evidence, on one day's notice. :eyes:
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #51
169. I wondered that too and hope you are right
this coming right after his threat against BOA is creepy
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:59 AM
Response to Reply #22
78. Take off your tinfoil
Or are you not going to believe all the people on DU from Illinois and the Chicago area that have been following this all along and knew it was just a matter of time until he was indicted?

In fact, when my husband and I were discussing the Senate seat, we were also discussing it in terms of who we would to take over for Blago after he finally got nailed. (We liked Lisa Madigan, BTW.)

The man is a crook and deserves to be in jail. Do you want good, honest government or do you want to spread falsehoods to protect corrupt Dems.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:28 PM
Response to Reply #14
124. You mean like how they did with Spitzer and Siegelman
Oh, yeah, and how they did with Libby Dole and all those Republicans who are in jail for hopping in and out of big business and government and getting campaign donations from business -- like Bush (remember his football club and energy companies), Cheney (Halliburton), Rumsfeld . . . . .

The list is long. I see how they are all rotting in jail.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #124
140. John Rowland is a good example, from right here in CT
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 02:11 PM
Response to Reply #140
158. The corruption in the Republican Party is far deeper and more widely
spread than in the Democratic Party. First, there is more money in the Republican Party. Second, the Democratic Party is more grass-roots in its organization. Yet, the numbers of Republicans indicted is relatively small.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:56 AM
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19. And now he probably cannot choose Obama's Replacement
Interesting timing after the BOA freezeout - 'eh?
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:57 AM
Response to Reply #19
21. HE WAS HOLDING AN AUCTION FOR OBAMA'S Seat!
:banghead:


Moron!
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #21
80. S.O.B.

That's just disgusting.

(if true)
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:40 PM
Response to Reply #21
148. Crook, moron.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:49 AM
Response to Reply #19
70. I've been very worried about Blago's appointment. Now Quinn can have that opportunity
Blago is corrupt
The Lt Governor is a bit fumbling but appears to be a good man.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #70
85. hope so - are we sure it now falls to him?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:19 AM
Response to Reply #85
86. Yup. The Lt. Governor automatically steps up in Illinois if the Gov. cannot serve
Blago will probably try and tuff it out and keep governing. Let's hope not.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:57 AM
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20. Better to have have him arrested now than before election day 2008 or after
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 09:59 AM by No Elephants
he had appointed Obama's successor. I hope he is not guilty, though.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:02 AM
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25. It's Chicago so what do you expect?
The capital is in Springfield but the "state's business" is conducted in Chicago. Usually in back rooms on back streets. Things haven't changed much since Daley.

The corruption inherent in Chicago politics aside, all the US Attorneys more or less agreed to the agenda of the Bush administration and that agenda obviously was to take down as many prominent Democrats as possible. They got one governor so maybe they are trying to get another one while they still can.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #25
175. This governor helped 'em. He was NOT entrapped.
And yes, Chicago is a huge part of this problem.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:06 AM
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27. He may be a crook but
I fully believe they arrested him now because he intervened in the strike.

I don't believe that was a coincidence.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:07 AM
Response to Reply #27
28. Read these details and say that
"Illinois Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich and his Chief of Staff, John Harris, were arrested today by FBI agents on federal corruption charges alleging that they and others are engaging in ongoing criminal activity: conspiring to obtain personal financial benefits for Blagojevich by leveraging his sole authority to appoint a United States Senator; threatening to withhold substantial state assistance to the Tribune Company in connection with the sale of Wrigley Field to induce the firing of Chicago Tribune editorial board members sharply critical of Blagojevich; and to obtain campaign contributions in exchange for official actions – both historically and now in a push before a new state ethics law takes effect January 1, 2009."

<http://cbs2chicago.com/local/rod.blagojevich.charged.2.883170.html>


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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:21 AM
Response to Reply #28
45. more here: The Department of Justice alleges that in exchange for the Senate appointment, Blagojevic
The Department of Justice alleges that in exchange for the Senate appointment, Blagojevich discussed obtaining:

a substantial salary for himself at either a non-profit foundation or an organization affiliated with labor unions;
placing his wife on paid corporate boards where he speculated she might garner as much as $150,000 a year;
promises of campaign funds — including cash up front;
a cabinet post or ambassadorship for himself.
"The breadth of corruption laid out in these charges is staggering," said Patrick J. Fitzgerald, United States Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois. "They allege that Blagojevich put a 'for sale' sign on the naming of a United States Senator. The citizens of Illinois deserve public officials who act solely in the public's interest, without putting a price tag on government appointments, contracts and decisions."

more:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28139155/
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:23 AM
Response to Reply #45
47. People here were complaining last week that the guy Blago was pushing to replace Obama was pro-Blago
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 10:35 AM by Bleachers7
I wonder how he's involved.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:27 AM
Response to Reply #47
50. I'm not sure, but this is a really messed up situation. The tapes are probably what brought him down
:shrug: Do you have the name of the person Blago was pushing?

The Department of Justice alleges that in exchange for the Senate appointment, Blagojevich discussed obtaining:

a substantial salary for himself at either a non-profit foundation or an organization affiliated with labor unions;
placing his wife on paid corporate boards where he speculated she might garner as much as $150,000 a year;
promises of campaign funds — including cash up front;
a cabinet post or ambassadorship for himself.

"The breadth of corruption laid out in these charges is staggering," said Patrick J. Fitzgerald, United States Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois. "They allege that Blagojevich put a 'for sale' sign on the naming of a United States Senator. The citizens of Illinois deserve public officials who act solely in the public's interest, without putting a price tag on government appointments, contracts and decisions."

more:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28139155/
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #50
56. I think it was Bobby Rush
And I wonder what he know about all this.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:44 AM
Response to Reply #56
65. thanks, I thought it was Emil Jones
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:51 AM
Response to Reply #65
73. Yup. That was the latest word
A very bad politician but a very best bud of Blago.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:34 PM
Response to Reply #73
219. Yep. Over the weekend, that was the talk...Emil Jones for US Senator.
:puke:
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #65
126. Isn't Emil Jones the one who made obama a US Senator?
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:06 PM
Response to Reply #45
138. This is what really pissed my off.
"The breadth of corruption laid out in these charges is staggering," said Patrick J. Fitzgerald.

Yeah, right, but he couldn't put enough evidence together in regard to the Bush administration and all the time and money involved in THAT investigation.

I have no respect for Fitzgerald.

Blagojevic may be corrupt, but not half as corrupt as the Bush administration.

Something else must be going on for them to make such a show of this arrest.
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Craftsman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:34 AM
Response to Reply #27
54. The SOB was a crook who should have been arrest long ago.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #27
119. No coincidence, that is certain.
He was at that strike, among a couple other actions he's taken in the last few days, to drum up some support, because he knew this was coming. This was not punishment. These investigations take months. It's literally impossible that all these allegations were drummed up in 24h, and if there was a 'slow simmer' investigation going on, I doubt Fitzgerald would be willing to risk the conviction to hurry the indictments for political purposes.

Patrick Fitzgerald is a good guy, have a little faith.

It's no big deal. Lt. Governor takes over. Everything is fine. Blagojevich is scum, tons of people saw this coming.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:10 AM
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31. Huge question here: Why has he been the target of an investigation for the past 3 years?
If this is truly about bribery for Obama's recently vacated seat, why has he been under investigation by the FBI for 3 years (MSNBC reporting)??

And it is highly convienent that the day after he orders all state businesses to stop patronizing Bank of America, this happens...

That being said, if these allegations are proved true, he should get the maximum sentence for these crimes because corruption is corruption, democrat of republican.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:15 AM
Response to Reply #31
33. I got the impression that it was *also* about the bribery, not just about it (nt)
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:19 AM
Response to Reply #31
43. There's been a lot of 'pay for play' crap going on. There's a reason he has such a huge war chest.
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:16 AM
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34. Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich is in federal custody on corruption charges.
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 10:04 AM by BadGimp
Source: CNN

no link off home page yet..

DUPE - pls remove - sorry

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/
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DonEBrook Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:16 AM
Response to Reply #34
35. ruh roh
:eyes:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:16 AM
Response to Reply #34
36. LMAO!
:rofl:

It's about fucking time.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:16 AM
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37. GOOD.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:16 AM
Response to Reply #34
38. Nothing surprises me anymore.
Absolutely nothing.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:16 AM
Response to Reply #34
39. Here ya go
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28139155/

Not much info, it's still breaking.
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redirish28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:16 AM
Response to Reply #34
40. So these are ligit accusations? Had to wonder if it had something
to do with the governor being (D) and appointing another (D) to replace Obama.
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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:16 AM
Response to Reply #40
41. And possibly the US attorneys' scandal?
Could be a totally legit investigation and he may be totally corrupt, but when I heard this it just made me wonder. Same thing with the scandal with the NY governor (which was a victimless crime).
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:35 AM
Response to Reply #40
55. It doesn't.
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 10:36 AM by Raskolnik
Blagojevich is as corrupt as they come, and the Lt. Governor is a Democrat.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:44 AM
Response to Reply #40
66. It has to do with him naming Obama's successor
It also has to do with him trying to sell the seat to the highest bidder or appointing himself for legal cover.
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RetailSlave Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:49 AM
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71. Totally legit accusations
I just read the entire indictment - they've got enough recorded conversations from this bozo to convince almost anybody that he's a crook. People living in Illinois have known he was crooked since he was in Congress.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:16 AM
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42. It says he was attempting to buy or sell the Illinois Senate seat
WHAT????????
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:20 AM
Response to Reply #42
44. Feds: Blagojevich sought to profit from choosing Obama's Senate successor
Feds: Blagojevich sought to profit from choosing Obama's Senate successor
updated 3 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich was arrested Tuesday on charges of conspiring to get financial benefits through his authority to appoint a U.S. senator to fill the vacancy left by Barack Obama's election as president.

According to a federal criminal complaint, Blagojevich also was charged with illegally threatening to withhold state assistance to Tribune Co., the owner of the Chicago Tribune, in the sale of Wrigley Field. In return for state assistance, Blagojevich allegedly wanted members of the paper's editorial board who had been critical of him fired.

John Harris, the governor's chief of staff, was also charged, the U.S. Department of Justice said.

more:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28139155/
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:23 AM
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46. Vacant senate seats should *not* be filled by Governors
That just invites this sort of corruption (not that this is an excuse). It is also profoundly un-democratic. Whoever the Gov picks as interim senator gets a *huge* advantage when the election comes up.

Vacant seats should *always* be filled via a special election. Let the parties hold primaries, pick their candidates, and let the *voters* pick their own senator.
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DemSigns Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:24 AM
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48. Railroaded
Blago is a victim of group think. They say he is corrupt for years and eventually everyone believes it. I'll bet the evidence is flimsy. He is being Sieglemaned.
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:26 AM
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49. Utter nonsense.
Blagojevich is as corrupt as they come, and an egotistical jackass to boot.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/acrobat/2008-12/43789434.pdf
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:43 AM
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62. No they have wire tap evidence apparently. He is a Crook of Epic proportions.
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 10:44 AM by Jake3463
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RetailSlave Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:51 AM
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72. Nope. The guy is as crooked as they come.
Read the conversation transcripts in the indictment - they're chilling.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:12 AM
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83. Blagojevich is a bigger crook than George Ryan
He needs to spend some quality time in prison.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 05:02 PM
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176. That is a mighty impressive title to hold.
And yes, Blago has earned it!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:24 AM
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90. thank god and greyhound he`s gone.....
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:15 PM
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115. As a long time Illinoisian I can only say that politics in this state is vile and
always has been - from top to bottom and he is only a sample of it.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:31 PM
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125. Why do you think he is innocent?
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 02:10 PM
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157. Well, he might be corrupt, HOWEVER..
I smell a big Bush/Cheney rat here with the wiretapping right after the election. And wish Fitz would have been this strong on the whole Libby thing.
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66 dmhlt Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:30 AM
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52. At what point does he lose his ability to appoint a replacement senator?
He's "only" been taken into custody.

Does he have to be arrested? Indicted? Convicted? Run through all his appeals?

Assuming he doesn't just turn matters over to the lieutenant governor.

Anyone know when/if he loses his vacant senate seat appointment power?
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AKing Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:56 AM
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76. Soon I hope. Whoever he would pick would carry the stench with him
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MiaCulpa Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:38 AM
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58. Reports: Illinois Gov. taken into custody
Source: Raw Story

Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich was unexpectedly taken into federal custody Tuesday morning on corruption charges related to his appointment of President-elect Barack Obama's replacement in the Senate.

US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald announced the details of the charges in a press release (pdf) Tuesday morning.

"The breadth of corruption laid out in these charges is staggering," the federal prosecutor said. "They allege that Blagojevich put a 'for sale' sign on the naming of a United States Senator; involved himself personally in pay-to-play schemes with the urgency of a salesman meeting his annual sales target; and corruptly used his office in an effort to trample editorial voices of criticism. The citizens of Illinois deserve public officials who act solely in the public’s interest, without putting a price tag on government appointments, contracts and decisions."

The FBI arrested Blagojevich and his chief of staff, John Harris, on charges alleging that the governor essentially attempted to sell Obama's vacant Senate seat and tried to get members of the Chicago Tribune's editorial board who had criticized him fired. The two were charged with conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud along with solicitation of bribery.


Full story available at Raw Story link...

Read more: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Reports_Illinois_Gov._taken_into_custody_1209.html



This story will be continually updated all day as further developements emerge.

-Diane
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:43 AM
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60. Link to article with description of wire tap info
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:44 AM
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63. Who was he conspiring with on the Senate seat?
There has to be somebody on the other end just as STUPID. Even I knew the Feds were watching him.

They have watched him for 3 years. I don't doubt he's dirty. This is a very convenient time to

arrest him. I just think the timing is funny.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:45 AM
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67. My guess is Jesse Jackson Jr. but that is pure speculation.
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 10:45 AM by Jake3463
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:38 AM
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98. The article says that he and JJJ disagreed publicly and are not close
JJJ may want the seat, but from what I read in the first link he has distanced himself publicly.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:46 AM
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68. Sounds like the state of Alaska should be watching to see how these things are done!
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:49 AM
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69. I love Fitzie!
A statement by U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald and FBI Special Agent-in-Charge Robert Grant said Blagojevich and Harris "allegedly conspired to sell U.S. Senate appointment, engaged in pay-to-play schemes and threatened to withhold state assistance to Tribune Company for Wrigley Field to induce purge of newspaper editorial writers."

"The breadth of corruption laid out in these charges is staggering," Fitzgerald said in a statement.

"Blagojevich put a for sale sign on the naming of a United States Senator; involved himself personally in pay-to-play schemes with the urgency of a salesman meeting his annual sales target; and corruptly used his office in an effort to trample editorial voices of criticism," he added.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/09/report-illinois-governor-taken-federal-custody/

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for-q-bush Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:53 AM
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74. I guess every side has their share of idiots
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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:08 AM
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81. This guy is a thug. I hope he spends his entire life in jail.
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 11:10 AM by ryanmuegge
I want my money back for your flights home to Chicago from Springfield. I also want the money back for your makeup jobs. Both of which you illegally billed the taxpayers.

Makes you wonder how corrupt an Obama administration will be. Of course, it couldn't be anywhere near the past two administrations in that respect.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:14 AM
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84. recommend -- let the chips fall where they may. nt
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:20 AM
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87. God what an idiot! When will these jerks learn that this kind of stuff doesn't pay off?
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:08 PM
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111. When it stops paying off.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:23 AM
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88. 13% approval rating..we are`t going to shed a tear
pat quinn is ok....
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:24 AM
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89. From the indictment...
.............benefits for ROD BLAGOJEVICH, including, among
other things, appointment as Secretary of Health & Human Services in the President-elect’s
administration.

This is very concerning, who in the Administration was he trying to influence to get this post?
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mercury7du Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:32 AM
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92. Big Fish Smaller Fish
Seems like the Republican administration wants to influence the Illinois Senate seat choosing process in their own way, while getting their shots in while they still have a chance.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:33 AM
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93. He was taped by John Wyma, his former chief-of-staff.
What a worthless piece of shit Blagojevich was.

Fits has him by the balls. He'll probably start singing soon to reduce his sentence.

I'm sure he knows where the bodies are buried in Chicago politics.
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:33 AM
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94. Illinois repubs calling for immediate resignation--
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 11:34 AM by coffeenap
or will begin impeachment process immediately--source is CLTV-local Chicago tv network (Tribune owned, btw.) Andrew McKenna speaking now.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:36 AM
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95. Nobody is clean in Chicago politics, IMO.
Wyma, the former chief-of-staff who cooperated with Fitz to nail Blagojevich with tapes, probably made a deal to avoid prosecution for whatever Wyma did.
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:42 AM
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103. Now McKenna is pointing fingers at the entire Illinois
Democratic party leadership--he started off sounding so "concerned", now, with the hosts' help,he is accusing the leaders of foreknowledge. This is going to be a dramatic few days in Illinois. No one seems to know how it will play out in terms of the Senate appointment. Speculation from the dean of a law school here says as long as he is still governor, he still has the right to appoint. We shall see.
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:37 AM
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96. I’m from Illinois a Stone Cold Progressive
The guys a crook, If the GOP could have put up a less corrupt candidate last time around
he would have lost, Same for an Independent. Good news is that a true liberal will now take the reins of power in Illinois.

Regardless of what the Bush Administration may have liked or wanted this is good.

Good for the Party in Illinois and good for all Illinois residents, So lets not circle this
wagon, He’s not worth our sympathy, He’s a crook, Period
We should stand behind him in the same way he stands behind other Democrats
In other words, Not at all.

Once again, Cudo’s to U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald, Hell of a job Fitzy

My only concern is that it does not go into the Obama Administration
But Remember, It was only last week that Obama made the statement about
Chigago Politics, Could be he knew that this was going down.
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:55 AM
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110. That's what was so frustrating (and funny (in a sad way)) about the last election.
If the Republicans could have gotten their act together for five minutes and nominated someone with an ounce of charisma who could have campaigned on an anti-corruption platform with a straight face, they would have won easily. Hell, I'd have considered voting for a moderate, competent Republican over Blago in a heartbeat.

Instead, they put up Topinka and Birkett. What a bunch of fools.
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:38 AM
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97. Expletive (Obama)
The transcripts are indeed stunning. Here's my favorite line:

Blago said he knew the President-elect wanted Senate Candidate 1 for the open seat but "they're not willing to give me anything except appreciation. (Fuck) them".

Blago said if he couldn't get anything of value for the seat, that he would simply appoint himself.

What a scum ...and to think he replaced a Republican scum.
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Ammonium Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:40 AM
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99. Fuck with Bank of America
and go straight to jail...
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:49 AM
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106. riight
Because it's not like he's not corrupt to the core.
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Speciesamused Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:13 PM
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114. Any banks, business, state or government entity.
There is a long list of people through out history.
Until we have a revolution, it will just continue.
Welcome to Amerika.
Peace
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:47 PM
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129. No. He did a bunch of illegal shit, actually. Allegedly.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:41 AM
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100. My parents live in So. IL
They have never had a nice thing to say about him. They have always complained the he chooses to live in Chicago and flies to Springfield for the business of governing. Not the best example to set, IMHO.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:52 AM
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107. Pataki refused to live in Albany
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:15 PM
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141. Could anyone blame him?
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:25 PM
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220. Dude, you're in Alabama
I'm not sure you should be bagging on locations anywhere else...

:-)
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DollyM Donating Member (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:18 PM
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143. I live in southern Illinois too . . .
Born and raised and I can tell you this part of the state is anti Democrat no matter who it is. This will certainly not help things . . . sigh . . . it makes me ashamed to be from Illinois.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 05:33 PM
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179. Far Southern Illinois has historically been Democrat.
Central Illinois--you know, where the governor refuses to live--has typically been Repug. And will be more so now.
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DollyM Donating Member (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 06:38 PM
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182. always the debate about what is southern Illinois . . .
People from Chicago assume anything below Springfield is southern Illinois or "downstate". I am 70 miles east of St. Louis so that is considered south central Illinois but still southern Illinois. Anything below Effingham (1-57)is generally considered southern Illinois but the people who really live in deep southern Illinois consider themselves to be the true southern Illinois population. They are generally more connected with the southern culture due to their proximity to Kentucky. With all that said, if you read the Southern Illinois newspaper, it is blatantly Republican and slants newsarticles in an accusatory way any time it can and people who post of their website are very right wing to the point of being obnoxious. So I would safely say that southern Illinois in general is pretty much Repblican territory. Just drive around here and see all the pick up trucks with Bush-Cheney bumper stickers. This group is largely concerned that a black man is going to be president and they think he is going to take away all their guns. Sometime I think I was born in the wrong place.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:16 PM
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221. Again, far Southern Ilinois tends to be blue. Heavy union country,
mining unions and AfSCME in the prisons.

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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:55 AM
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109. shocking!!!!! BOTH DEMS AND REPUGS are corrupt to the bone.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:23 PM
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122. LOL!
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:48 PM
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130. I don't know this guy, but I'm seeing lots of LOLs on this...
MAking me assumed he will not be missed, correct?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:54 PM
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135. He's disliked by both parties here.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:44 PM
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128. Payback for BANK of AMERICA
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 12:47 PM by McCamy Taylor
The Bush corrupt DOJ does not prosecute anyone based upon their degree of corruption. If that was the case, there are plenty of Republicans starting with Bush, Cheney and Rove who should be under special investigation or indictment. The DOJ is used like a Mafia enforcement division. Yesterday, Bank of America was threatened. Today, the Gov. of Illinois disappears. There is nothing hard to understand about that.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:49 PM
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132. No, from what I've read it's payback for being a crooked jagoff.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:49 PM
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133. Utter bullshit, IMO, McCamy Taylor
The direction is just the opposite. When Blago found out he was to be indicted, he tried to make some populist headlines the day before.

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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 02:12 PM
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159. Considering Bush connections, it's possible
It gave them extra incentive.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:49 PM
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131. the complaint . . .
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 12:58 PM
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136. I smell Rove/Bush a over this....something stinks...they are doing dirty shit to keep a Dems from ..
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 01:01 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
another senate seat.....remember Spitzer!
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:16 PM
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142. The something that stinks is Blagojevich.
From the criminal complaint...

Count one

From in or about 2002 to the present, in Cook County, in the Northern District of Illinois, defendants did,
conspire with each other and with others to devise and participate in a scheme to defraud the State of Illinois and
the people of the State of Illinois of the honest services of ROD R. BLAGOJEVICH and JOHN HARRIS, in
furtherance of which the mails and interstate wire communications would be used, in violation of Title 18, United
States Code, Sections 1341,1343, and 1346; all in violation of Title 18 United States Code, Section 1349.

Count Two

Beginning no later than November 2008 to the present, in Cook County, in the Northern District of Illinois,
defendants ROD R. BLAGOJEVICH and JOHN HARRIS, being agents of the State of Illinois, a State government
which during a one-year period, beginning January 1, 2008 and continuing to the present, received federal benefits
in excess of $10,000, corruptly solicited and demanded a thing of value, namely, the firing of certain Chicago
Tribune editorial members responsible for widely-circulated editorials critical of ROD R. BLAGOJEVICH,

intending to be influenced and rewarded in connection with business and transactions of the State of Illinois
involving a thing of value of $5,000 or more, namely, the provision of millions of dollars in financial assistance by
the State of Illinois, including through the Illinois Finance Authority, an agency of the State of Illinois, to the
Tribune Company involving the Wrigley Field baseball stadium; in violation of Title 18, United States Code,
Sections 666(a)(1)(B) and 2.
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:34 PM
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147. Could you explain how this accomplishes that end?
The Lt. Gov. of Illinois is a Democrat.
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:23 PM
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144. we are so stupid
The governor of a state is arrested at his home the day after he endorses striking workers and criticizes BofA.

Just a coincidence right?

Gotta love this "post partisanship." Unfortunately, one side in the battle did not get the memo and will be fighting as ferociously as ever.
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:33 PM
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146. If we believe that this has anything to do the BoA, then yes, we are so stupid.
You have cause and effect backward--Blago pulled a political stunt because he knew the clock was ticking on this investigation, in an attempt to curry political favor.

Looks like it worked with some people.
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:48 PM
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151. I know
I understand your point.

The reaction here would be no different were it not true.

Let's say that he was pandering to the public - hoping to get public support by what he said. If that issue, why do so few of our Democratic party officials use that sort of approach?
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 05:48 PM
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180. "...why do so few of our Democratic party officials use that sort of approach?"
Because it's disgustingly cynical?
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:42 PM
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149. Nope, sealed indictments came down over the weekend
Has jack shit to do with his activities yesterday and EVERYTHING to do with a a five-year-old public corruption investigation of pay-to-play schemes, including insider-dealing, influence-peddling and kickbacks involving private interests and public duties.

Blago was dirty as hell when he got elected the first time and has behaved badly since that time. This is not some GOP conspiracy, this has nothing to do with "da man" keeping the workers down, this is about a corrupt pig who finally got caught.

Trust the IL folks on here--we have been here to see it and fight against it.




Laura
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:49 PM
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152. understood
I maintain that were he being sincere, the same debates would be happening here.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 02:20 PM
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160. No. Your assertions are so stupid, don't go calling us stupid.
The governor of a state is arrested at his home the day after he endorses striking workers and criticizes BofA. Just a coincidence right?


Blagovich has been under investigation and suspicion for a long time. This arrest was not orchestrated overnight because somebody got cheesed off. It has been a long time in the making. Looks like Blagovich earned it, many times over.
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 03:13 PM
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164. oh lighten up
Good grief.
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:54 PM
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153. Let’s Try as Democrats
Not to follow the example of Wing Nut Republicans by defending
even the most obvious of Crooks, Pervs and Traitors.

As a Democrat in Illinois, There is nothing to be ashamed about.

Remember, The last Governor here is in prison too, And for any
Wing Nut to try and make hay with this issue they only need to be
reminded that Gov. Ryan was a Republican.

So sadly, Neither party has a lock on integrity.

Support Fitz, He’s one of the good ones, He’s doing all of Illinois a favor
by rooting out corruption wherever he finds it, Republican or Democrat
and that's good for all of us.

Stay cool and stay nonpartisan on this issue, It’s Corruption

It’s an Illinois Thing :)
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 03:28 PM
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165. Yes, it is an "Illinois Thing"
I was born in Illinois and spent most of my life there. It doesn't matter what party they belong to, if they end up in the Governor's mansion, the next stop is often prison.

Kerner, Walker, Ryan, and now probably Blagojevich. I am never surprised when I hear of corruption indictments in Springfield anymore. Absolutely bizarre. It is evidently a job qualification.

I don't know how Obama escaped the political dirt in Chicago, but I'm glad he did.

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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 02:06 PM
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155. The timing is absolutely foul
They thought they would get something on Obama. They won't even use absolute language that Obama had nothing to do with it. Never trust the Bush (In)justice Dept.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 07:41 PM
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184. They had to get him before he made an appointment
Imagine an even bigger mess if this came down AFTER somebody was in Obama's senate seat. I don't even want to think about it--it's like a Scorcese movie as it is.

And it seemed like the investigators were upset over the governor trying to take back money from the children's hospital.
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 02:07 PM
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156. Lt. Governor says he hasn't had a conversation with
governor since some time in 2007! (Quinn is a great guy!)
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 02:22 PM
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161. More political prosecution from the Rove Dept of One-party Justice
Maybe Rod will be like David Vitter and get a round of applause when he goes back to work.
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 04:32 PM
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171. You really don't know what you're talking about if you think this a political prosecution
Blago is as corrupt as they come, has been under investigation for years, and the timing of this complaint actually benefits Democrats (as opposed to being just before the election or just after he appoints a replacement for Obama).

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:20 PM
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215. You really don't know what you're talking about if you don't think that
EVERY Bush DoJ prosecution is political. Hate radio and Cabal "News" will spend from now util inauguration talking about Obamagojevich. The leak arrest also comens during the same week that * is going to pardon his entire administration. Watch and compare the air time spent on this vs the air time spent on the entire Bush crime syndicate.
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 02:25 PM
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163. 3-year investigation, wiretap just before the GE
seems they were trying for a two-fer.

Question: How many bugs you think there are in the White House?
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 03:55 PM
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168. impeachment proceedings will happen if he doesn't resign according to CNN interview eom
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AKing Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 05:21 PM
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178. Special Session of Legislature being called for Monday
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 05:19 PM
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177. My guesses:
Senate Candidate #1: Either Jan Schakowsky (my personal choice)

Senate Candidate #2: Tammy Duckworth

Senate Candidate #3: (?) Maybe Jesse Jackson, Jr. or James Clayborne

Senate Candidate #4: Dean Martenez (Deputy Gov. of Illinois)

Senate Candidate #5: Emil Jones

Reading the complaint is like playing Who's Who....
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chatnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 06:07 PM
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181. Attorney: Blagojevich has no plans of resigning
The attorney for Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich said the governor will be vindicated and he has no plans to resign.

“He didn’t do anything wrong,” attorney Sheldon Sorosky told reporters after Blagojevich was arraigned. “A lot of this is just politics.”

Blagojevich should be in the office Wednesday, Sorosky added.

So, reporters asked, he does not intend to resign?

“Not that I know of, no,” said Sorosky, who added that the governor was “surprised” by the day’s events.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16383.html
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 07:18 PM
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183. Hopefully, the first of many. nt
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 07:42 PM
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185. He's got hair that rivals John Edwards for its luster
I will say that for him--his hair makes him look fifteen years younger than his actual age.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:12 PM
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186. Blagojevich Calls Obama a mother****er
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 05:53 PM by PassingFair
Source: Chicago Sun Times

snip> Rod Blagojevich said that the consultants (Advisor B and another consultant are believed to be on the call at that time) are telling him that he has to "suck it up" for two years and do nothing and give this "motherf***er his senator. F*** him. For nothing? F*** him." Rod Blagojevich states that he will put "" in the Senate "before I just give F***ing a F***ing Senate seat and I don't get anything." (Senate Candidate 4 is a Deputy Governor of the State of Illinois). Rod Blagojevich stated that he needs to find a way to take the "financial stress" off of his family and that his wife is as qualified or more qualified than another specifically named individual to sit on corporate boards. According to Rod Blagojevich, "the immediate challenge how do we take some of the financial pressure off of our family." Later in the phone call, Rod Blagojevich stated that absent getting something back, Rod Blagojevich will not pick Senate Candidate 1.

Harris re-stated Rod Blagojevich's thoughts that they should ask the President-elect for something for Rod Blagojevich's financial security as well as maintain his political viability. Harris said they could work out a three-way deal with SEIU and the President- elect where SEIU could help the President-elect with Rod Blagojevich's appointment of Senate Candidate 1 to the vacant Senate seat, Rod Blagojevich would obtain a position as the National Director of the Change to Win campaign, and SEIU would get something favorable from the President-elect in the future.



Gov. Blagojevich free on bond after being arrested by feds


Read more: http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blagojevich/1321610,blagojevich-calls-obama-expletive-120908.article



Here are my guesses:

Senate Candidate #1: Either Jan Schakowsky (my personal choice)

Senate Candidate #2: Tammy Duckworth

Senate Candidate #3: (?) Maybe Jesse Jackson, Jr. or James Clayborne

Senate Candidate #4: Dean Martenez (Deputy Gov. of Illinois)

Senate Candidate #5: Emil Jones

Reading the complaint is like playing Who's Who....
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:12 PM
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187. The Blagster is a real class act
:eyes:
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:12 PM
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189. Who ran against him in the last primary?
The corpse of Al Capone?

Why did he get re-elected?

:shrug:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:13 PM
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198. According to Wikipedia, Edwin Eisendrath
A former Chicago Alderman and Vice President for Academic Affairs at Kendall College.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_gubernatorial_election,_2006
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:13 PM
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200. It says that Blago refused to debate him....
WTF? He must have been pretty lame to lose to this crook.
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:13 PM
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213. Illinois repubs have been eating each other for lunch
none of them are aligned and there seem to be some strong egos who don't mind ruining things for others in their own party. I for one have enjoyed the spectacle that is the Illinois Republican party. Blag skated in on George Ryan's horrible corruption.

I remember Blag from the grocery store in my neighborhood. He was the US rep from our district and a decent normal guy.

Illinois has had a string of corrupt govs in office. What the hell is it about the Ill Gov office? Does it corrupt people who started out decent or were these guys already corrupt and they are drawn to the office. Either way, we are cursed. After Ryan people really looked to Rod to fix things. So disappointing.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:12 PM
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188. F*ck that crook the "Chicago way "
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:12 PM
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190. He sure curses a lot. nt
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:12 PM
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191. But his WIFE is SUCH a SWEETHEART!
snip>
Patti Blagojevich: Hold up that f***ing Cubs s***
During the call, Rod Blagojevich's wife can be heard in the background telling Rod Blagojevich to tell Deputy Governor A "to hold up that f***ing Cubs s***. . . f*** them." Rod Blagojevich asked Deputy Governor A what he thinks of his wife's idea. Deputy Governor A stated that there is a part of what Rod Blagojevich's wife said that he "agree with."

:crazy:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:12 PM
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192. The real sad thing would be if they indicted her, too, and their kids
ended up in the DCFS system his budgets have done so much to destroy.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:12 PM
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194. Who do you think Candidate #1 is?
Schakowsky or Duckworth?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:40 PM
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216. ??? Only the Shadow knows
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 04:01 PM
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229. Patrick Fitzgerald is THE SHADOW???!!
That explains a LOT!!!

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 04:31 PM
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230. Great Picture
Shows a lot of class
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #191
207. Wasn't he going to do some of the
bribes through her?
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #186
193. he sounds a lot like Nixon...
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 05:46 PM by BREMPRO
publicly polite and honest, but privately foul mouthed and corrupt.


it's unbelievable to me that even knowing he was under FBI scrutiny, he blatantly tried to "Sell" the senate seat for personal gain. I'm amazed. He's either very arrogant or very stupid. Sounds like both.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #186
195. Maybe Illinois will get a
repub Governor. I prefer the sex scandals myself.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:13 PM
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196. Let me guess.... especially if they involve....
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:13 PM
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208. I wouldn't resist assimilation!
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chatnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #186
197. Weren't there quite a few stories immediately after the election
that Duckworth was Obama's pick for his seat?
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:13 PM
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199. He met with her on Veteran's Day...
They laid a wreath at Arlington.

She is undoubtedly Rahm's first choice.... :eyes:
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #186
201. Where the hell was this idiot when they handed out the brains? He
has obviously been absent in the party for the last couple of years - I for one want him prosecuted for this if he did it?
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chatnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:13 PM
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202. Seems he won't be resigning
Attorney: Blagojevich has no plans of resigning
By: Carol E. Lee
December 9, 2008 05:13 PM EST

CHICAGO— The attorney for Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich said the governor will be vindicated and he has no plans to resign.

"He didn't do anything wrong," attorney Sheldon Sorosky told reporters after Blagojevich was arraigned. "A lot of this is just politics."

Blagojevich should be in the office Wednesday, Sorosky added.

So, reporters asked, he does not intend to resign?

"Not that I know of, no," said Sorosky, who added that the governor was "surprised" by the day's events.

More: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16383.html
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:13 PM
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203. He's still hoping to cut a deal....
this is one desperate man!
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #186
204. He'll be IL's 4th gov to go to prison in the last 40 years
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 06:23 PM by demdog78
Yeah... basically every other Governor from IL has gone to prison.
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:16 PM
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214. those are the ones that had the charges stick
I can't remember a time when we didn't have a corrupt gov in office. It's the norm here.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:13 PM
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205. Toss this A-Hole in the can for a good five years and let him suck on that.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:13 PM
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206. He'll end up on the Top 10
Should the Top 10 come back.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #186
209. "F***ing Senate seat and I don't get anything"
We'll all pitch in and get you a haircut... And a nice cold cell in Wisconsin.

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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:13 PM
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218. Maybe someone can slip him a Flowbee when he's in the Joint.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #186
210. How much does this guy make that he feels that abuse of power is better
than cutting back on the family expenses? No offense, but it doesn't matter how qualified he thinks he is.v If integrity doesn't run in the family, they're not qualified for public office.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #186
211. The sense of entitlement is breathtaking.
Like a king granting a boon. Ick. What a slimeball.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #186
212. They say that cat Barack is a bad mother f...("Shut your mouth")
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 07:59 PM by John Q. Citizen
but I'm talking about Obama!
("Then we can dig it")

Who's the black P elect
that the people all respect?
Barack!
Your damn straight!

Who's the dude that won't cop out
When there's danger all about
Barack!
Right on!

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Augdog20 Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #186
231. Vote in poll: who's the worst governor of 2008?
Edited on Thu Dec-11-08 07:44 PM by Augdog20
Check out my blog
& vote in poll on who is <b>the worst governor of 2008?</b>


http://bluesunited.blogspot.com
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:08 PM
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217. the Illinois repugs....
....and their corporate Dem buddies will probably push for a special election in February for Obamas' Senate seat....who could this benefit?

....I bet bushco was fishing for a connecting dialog between Blago and Obamas' people over Obamas' replacement....hasn't most of todays crap on Blago has been gleaned since the election?....bushco's been investigating Blago for years....

....'go along, get along' with repugs is dangerous....Blago is small potatos, the Washington pukes were targeting Obama....
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 10:06 AM
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227. As far as the Senate seat, I think Durbin is correct...
Sen. Richard J. Durbin (Ill.), the second-ranking Democrat in the Senate, suggested yesterday that the state's legislature pass a law mandating a special election to fill the seat. "No appointment by this governor could produce a credible replacement," Durbin said.

An election has to happen. Even if Blagojevich is impeached and found guilty, or if he resigns.
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