Vietnamese brothel 'kept women in cages'

[emad]

Source: telegraph

Vietnamese police in Ho Chi Minh City have raided a massage parlour where women were kept in dog cages.

By Thomas Bell, South East Asia Correspondent
09 Dec 2008

According to the Thanh Nien newspaper 130 women were held as prisoners at the brothel and forced to work from nine in the morning until 3 a.m he following day. If they refused to perform sexual acts on customers they were severely punished by the owner, known as Tri, and his men.

"In nine months, I have seen more than 10 girls try to escape but they were captured, tortured by Tri and put in dog cages," said one of the rescued women.

The women, mostly from poor rural families, were kept as slaves in debt bondage. They said they were fed half a fish and a small bowl of soup at every meal, for which they were forced to pay £100 a month. Extra food cost an extra £2 per meal.

Tri and his men also held "birthday parties" every month and forced the women to give them "presents" of between £20 and £40. They also had to pay a "tuition fee" to learn sex acts, a fee of £600 to visit their families and £2000 to escape their jobs.




Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/vietnam/3687352/Vietnamese-brothel-kept-women-in-cages.html

[derby378]

1. And all of this in a "worker's paradise"

Communist, capitalist, fascist, feudalist, it doesn't matter - human slavery is universal, and still as disgusting as ever.

[notadmblnd]

2. The exploitation of human beings will over take the drug trade within ten years

and it won't just be women forced into prostitution. Children in Africa are already forced to fight in the armies. Men in India are forced to work as slaves on boats. In a sense, it's already happening here with the Hispanic population. yes it's a more subtle form, but it's slavery just the same.

[acmavm]

3. Yeah, we women are completely and totally familiar with the

subject. Ask any 'homemaker' what her labor and time were worth pre-1970s to the courts and to society.

[closeupready]

4. Oh geez. You can't be serious.

n/t

[TygrBright]

5. And you can't be a woman over forty. n/t

[Wanet]

6. I am a feminist woman over 40

And I think that comparing the lives of American women before feminism to brutal sex slavery is inappropriate.

[cali]

7. And stupid- wantonly, ignorantly stupid. And I'm also a woman over 40

Such comparisons are disgusting.

[acmavm]

16. AH! The biggest idiot on the board jumps in to throw in her worthless

two cents.

I've been reading your threads. I notice that pretty much no one cares what you think.

[RebelOne]

8. I am a woman way over 40

and I was a feminist before feminism was even heard of. I never took any abuse from any man.

[acmavm]

18. You were fucking lucky. But that changes nothing.

[Blaze Diem]

9. It is the mentality of power & submission..however it plays out in gender roles.

From equality in wages for same performance duties, to sex slavery, to the barefoot & preggers mentality. This exists.

[closeupready]

10. There common elements between the two, but

comparing being a 70's-era housewife with being a modern Vietnamese sex slave is like comparing the situation between being a domestic servant for the Royal Family and, on the other hand, one of those Indonesian domestics in that recent Long Island case involving the perfumiers. That is, it's not really a very useful point.

[Blaze Diem]

11. I simply understood the poster as referring to this very point. Rather than likening the

situations exactly in nature.
I read it as a broad issue, power & submission being the core problem.
Whether this is sex slaves, child labor, or confinement, abuse & isolation in a typical American marriage, control is at the core and it has existed in some fashion throughout the ages.

They are common elements and I believe the poster referenced the 70's-era housewife as simply one of many available comparisons in making that general, but broad point.
I guess that's how I understood the post.

I would like to ask the poster , then, what particular situation caused her/him to use the 70's era housewife as a point of reference. Perhaps it is personal, don't know but I would like to pose this question to the poster..

tks Blaze

[acmavm]

20. I saw a lot of women who were tossed aside. No way to earn a living, only

menial jobs. Waitressing, bartending, and what was considered the cream of the crop, secretarial.

I saw women in shelters with the kids, no where to go, no money, no prospects. And certainly no fucking one to stand up for them. Not until late 60s when women finally started to make some headway.

Ever go into the projects in those days? See how women who were lucking enough to find somewhere to go with their kids, did you ever see how they had to live, the shit they had to take, the demeaning lives they had to lead? Did you know that women were fair game back then, that if they were beaten by 'their man' whatever the relationship might have been, that they were just supposed to shut the fuck up and be glad that they had a 'man' to take care of 'em. Women died from beatings, and no one cared.

What jobs, may I ask, did uneducated women have to gravitate to? Do not ever tell me that there isn't a class of woman that is still exploited in this country, and that is poor women. But the Green River Killer is grateful for that surely. And all the sadist that prey on defenseless women, including their pimps. Golly, the same as today, prostitution. That's not brutal work? Dangerous? And in almost every case, disgusting?

What the fuck ever.

[acmavm]

17. Who said 70s???? Try before the 60s.

[acmavm]

15. And just so you know, I am way over 40 and I know fucking good and well

what I'm talking about.

When I grew up here in the good ol' US of A, women had NO real rights. It was considered that they did no real work, and they had to be satisfied with the treatment they got because no one would stick up for 'em. And talk about brutal, how about a coat-hanger abortion, but that's another story.

Women had no money, they were at the mercy of their husbands and they could be thrown out like the garbage.

You know, I think you using the work 'think' is pretty ironic.

[acmavm]

14. You bet your damn ass I am.

[closeupready]

19. Well okay. You didn't go all into this stuff with your initial response.

Now that you have, I see your point.

[Taverner]

13. This is an important point

As an Xer I cannot fathom this. Even the Baby Boomers have hazy memories of pre-Women's Rights struggle days.

But it was there - many domestic violence killings were swept under the rug as "accidental" for example. Rapes were NOT reported.

[haele]

21. I remember when Oregon passed the first spousal rape law -

Back in the 70's. It was a big thing; the majority of the married population - couples who were relatively happy with each other as people - couldn't really understand why such a law had to be passed. A lot of discussion started turning to why people tended to get married in the first place, and how sex figured in individual relationships.
There were (and still are) a lot of bitter men and women who were all to willing to demonize the other gender over sex roles, especially those who don't have a clear example of the many variants of a healthy, adult relationship should be.
There is a nasty cycle of victim and victimizer in American society - there is a lot of an emotional feeling of passive-aggressive "control" and false strength in both those roles.

Love, marriage, and sex not mutually inclusive in a relationship. Neither is an act of sex and abuse of a position of power in a relationship.

Haele

[Taverner]

12. My guess would be that it already has

The bubbles just never rise to the top, so we can't quantify it

Remember - the only ones we hear about are the ones stupid enough to get caught