White House Admits Bush Lied in 2002 State of The Union Over Al Qaeda Obta

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

White House Admits Bush Lied in 2002 State of The Union Over Al Qaeda Obtaining U.S. Nuke Plant Plans -- Democracy Now Pacifica Networks.

The Bush administration has been forced this week to admit that one of the most explosive claims of President Bush's 2002 State of the Union address was not based on factual evidence.

Bush claimed that the U.S. has discovered in Afghanistan detailed plans of U.S. nuclear plants. On Monday night the White House told the Wall Street Journal that Bush's statement admitted no such plans had ever been found.

This story has resurfaced this month after a commissioner on the Nuclear Regulatory Commission responded to an inquiry of Greenpeace and that the NRC was aware of no evidence that diagrams of nuclear plants had been found in Afghanistan.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/13/1549215


Funny, is not lying to Congress perjury? Or is it only perjury when you are a Democrat?

[cardlaw]

1. perjury (n)

the crime of intentionally lying after being duly sworn (to tell the truth) by a notary public, court clerk or other official.


I don't think * was under oath. But there may be a separate penalty for lying to Congress. Don't know about that one.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

13. The SOTU speech is a requirement, It is sworn testimony

before a joint session of Congress.
It is perjury.

[cardlaw]

14. Article 2, Section 3 says

"(The President) shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the state of the union"

It does not say he has to give a speech; it does not say it has to be before a joint session of Congress. Until the 20th Century, the SOTU was delivered to Congress in the form of a written statement.

[UpInArms]

15. here is the Constitutional requirement to report

the State of the Union, as specified in the Constitution:

Section 3. He shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the state of the union, and recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in case of disagreement between them, with respect to the time of adjournment, he may adjourn them to such time as he shall think proper; he shall receive ambassadors and other public ministers; he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed, and shall commission all the officers of the United States.

any testimony during this address (imho) is required to be truthful - anything less would be perjury

[wellst0nev0ter]

17. So When Can We Impeach Him?

</naivete>

[Peachhead22]

19. ...or Contempt of Congress at least?

Still a pretty big crime. Didn't some Iran-Contra guys do time for that?

[no_arbusto]

28. Well....

* is ALWAYS under oath. "I GW Boosh, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic", yadda ,yadda, yadda. He lied under oath, therefore he perjured himself.

[Bandit]

36. Your definition is not the whole truth

What is being lied about has to be pertinent. Many people lie all the time under oath but are not prosecuted for perjury because it wasn't pertinent to the issue. That is why President Clinton was never charged with any crime. He did not commit one by definition.

[papau]

2. Why does the media grant any credibility to any Bush/GOP statement?

:-)

[RedEarth]

5. My thoughts exactly......

the media has bent over backward not to question the Bush administration. John Dean has written several articles on this and blames the media for not being the watchdog they should be.

[MurikanDemocrat]

3. And the hits keep coming

I feel like I'm in a different country. The media actually reporting stuff like this when it comes to Bush crimes.

[proud patriot]

4. SOB ..bush is toast

[Just Me]

12. Powerful poetry, patriot!!!

Impressive :)

[yellowcanine]

6. Bush lied? This is news?

Wake me up if he tells the truth. I want to see the flying pigs.

[aquart]

7. I'm an idiot. I didn't even question that.

I feel so naive.

[bluedog]

8. from speech

We have found diagrams of American nuclear power plants and public water facilities, detailed instructions for making chemical weapons, surveillance maps of American cities, and thorough descriptions of landmarks in America and throughout the world.

[Bozvotros]

9. The SOTU address is required by the Constitution

At the junta's installation, Bush made the following statement:

"I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Lying to Congress is not preserving protecting or defending the Constitution or faithully executing the office. Sounds like perjury to me, unless the RW wants to argue that habitual preposterous lying is the best of his abilities.

[ConcernedCanuk]

10. Countless THOUSANDS have died related to that lie

.
.

noone died or was even "injured" over Clinton's lie

and he was IMPEACHED - -

What are they waiting for ???

[54anickel]

11. Here's a link to Reps Markey and Dingell letter to Shrub

http://www.house.gov/markey/iss_nonproliferation_ltr040213.pdf

[54anickel]

16. The president was "poorly served by a speechwriter,"

Mr. McGaffigan said.

http://www.greenpeaceusa.org/index.fpl/8154.html?article=1025&cms_article=1025

Speech writer's will be blamed for Both SOTU lies, this one and the yellow-cake.

[Matilda]

23. So, doesn't Bush ever check through his speeches to check

the facts before he delivers them? Ooops, sorry ..... I forgot.
He doesn't read.

[Bozola]

18. Hahahah! How sweet it is.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1042785/posts?page=101

But until the moment when Clinton lied under oath I was willing to accept him as the president of the United States. Make no mistake, my disdain for Bill Clinton had nothing to do with him abusing his underlings sexually, it had everything to do with him breaking the law and violating his oath to uphold the US Constitution, two things he did when he perjured himself.

[alfredo]

20. Reporters and congress members need to be asked if the lies

in the SOTU could be considered an impeachable offense considering the price we are paying for his lies.

[0007]

21. Wow!! The administration drops this stuff on us on a Friday evening

and then walks away hoping it will die before Monday. Or at least it seems that way to me.

The media should be howling & yapping like a bunch of wolves and coyotes
over this bit of news.

"The Bush administration has been forced this week to admit that one of the most explosive claims of President Bush's 2002 State of the Union address was not based on factual evidence."

THIS IS BIG

[Media_Lies_Daily]

22. Agreed. VERY big.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

27. and possibly what they are trying to cover up with the little dust

up over his ANG service?

[PaDUer]

29. And what are they going to do

with all these facts coming out like water now? IMPEACH the entire administration and JAIL!

[0007]

35. Sounds good to me!

[enough]

24. kick (nt)

.

[DoYouEverWonder]

25. Actually, it should only be LBN if Bu$h didn't lie

Just kidding. But really, is there anything that W says or does that is truthful? I don't think he is can tell the difference anymore.

[teryang]

26. Disinformation as dogma

Lying is an article of faith in the power mad despotism running our nation. This is dictatorship in the making.

[grasswire]

30. thank goodness...

....for that photo of Bush with his pencil and eyeglasses, scrutinizing every line of the SOTU. Can't blame it on the speechwriters.

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33. KaChing! Congress finally asks some questions!

[dbt]

34. Anybody remember this famous Pug mantra:

"It's not about the sex, it's about the lying." Or how about, "If you have nothing to hide, you shouldn't mind the investigation."

And, then, my personal fave rave:

"If there's that much smoke, there has to be some fire."

:evilgrin:
dbt

Just remembered another one (used by PillBoy around 6.8 million times): "You can't have it both ways."