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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 12:26 AM
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Bush Lie and Who Die? (Military Families React WMD Intelligence)
Note, MSNBC/Newsweek is asking for military people and families to write in - please pass this on if you or someone you know is in military.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4265356/

Fernando Suarez del Solar has become something of a cause celebre in the antiwar movement. Although the Mexico native’s English is spotty, he is still eloquent when he speaks of his son’s death and the fact that no weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq. “Mr. Bush lie and who die?” Suarez asked this week. “My son.”

Suarez’s 20-year-old son, Jesus, had desperately wanted to be a Marine. So the family moved across the border from Tijuana to California so that he could fulfill his dream at Camp Pendleton. The senior Suarez had been something of an activist in his hometown, a city rife with drug crime, and Jesus wanted to fight narcotraffickers, maybe go into special forces or the Drug Enforcement Agency.

Instead Jesus landed in Iraq and died last March after stepping on a stray American cluster bomb, according to his father. After his son’s death, he made a decision to speak out against the war. “They tell me I’m staining the memory of my son. But that’s not true. He died for his own ideals,” Suarez said in Spanish. “All the young people who have died are a symbol of peace, valor and courage. But they were tricked.”

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Antiwar activists say it’s too early for veterans in particular to protest. They say that as the death toll rises, more soldiers and their families will come forward. “That is the next phase,” explains Nancy Lessin of Military Families Speak Out, which she says has a little more than 1,000 active members and is getting about a dozen new members a week—mostly families whose kids are about to be deployed. She says there are a couple of veterans of the war who are planning to speak out through her group at this point. This week, I received an e-mail from one soldier who promised to go public after he is out of the service in April.

MoveOn.org has tried to bring military voices like Suarez’s into its anti-Bush campaign. Of the more than 500,000 people who joined an online petition to censure the president for “misinformation” on weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in Iraq, about 25,000 had military ties, according to the organization. The recent reports that Iraq probably did not stockpile WMD haven't seemed to spark a big protest within military homes. Many antiwar family members like Joe Werfelman, whose son is a reservist, were already dubious about finding WMD. “This is just another lie,” he says.



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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 12:48 AM
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1. TKs for the link
will pass this on.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 12:52 AM
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2. Kerry spoke out against Nam
AFTER serving in Nam, and by year 10 of the conflict, this is just building folks
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 07:09 AM
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7. Luckily he did. I turned 18 in 1973. I would have been drafted in '74...
... and more than likely sent to Vietnam soon after that. Thanks to the Vietnam vets against the war that madness ended. I believe thats what it will take again this time to stop this new madness.

Don

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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 12:58 AM
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3. NOW they cover the military families and the soldiers?
they should have been doing this for the last YEAR!!! and its long overdue they show the wounded and the caskets at Dover..LONG overdue they cover the funerals and put the military families on TV who have been protesting all along! Its about damn time.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 02:35 AM
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4. you are so right Mari. I think
"Showing" the Military families grief and anger and the "cost" to them and us.......WOULD BE VERY DAMNING for this corrupt Administration. This whole fiasco might just be TOO hot for the media and the folks in power to let slip out. hmmmm?

I just watched a C-SPAN committee/hearing on what the hell Halliburton is doing over in the mideast. All the bucks going to hally and other contractors while the soldiers are going with out ARMOR and food etc... It is a HUGE scandal. ie "war profiteering" while the soldiers are hung out to dry.
Senators include:

Sen. Dick Durban (D-IL)
Sen. Frank Lautenberb (D-NJ)
Sen. Byron Dorgan (D-North Dakotas)

They are getting some very very damning info out of the folks that actually worked for halliburton and other contractors involved in this fleecing of tax payers AND the soldiers!! Dorgan was really pissed when he learned the high level of fraud going on in the "war arena". :mad:
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 02:54 AM
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5. Can't remember name of the Halliburton whistle blower on C-SPAN
but wow, it looks like Chaney's Company is rapidly becoming the next Enron, only this time it's FOOD for solders, tax money and bribes, Embroidered towels for their exec's in place of Armor plated chest gear for our solders.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 06:32 AM
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6. Durbin is my senator.
He is just about the best there is. I am so proud of him.

He is on the judiciary committee, too, and has helped keep some of the worst judges out. When I write to him about the judges, I get back great detailed letters.

He is also making lots of noise about the memos that were stolen from his committee.

We need about ten more Durbins.
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