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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 11:50 AM
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Supreme Court won't review Obama's eligibility to serve (again)
Source: USA Today/AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court has turned down another challenge to Barack Obama's eligibility to serve as president because of his citizenship.

The appeal by Cort Wrotnowski of Greenwich, Conn., was denied Monday without comment.

Wrotnowski argued that Obama was a British subject at birth and therefore cannot meet the requirement for becoming president.

He wanted the high court to halt presidential electors from meeting to formally elect Obama as president.

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/judicial/supremecourtopinions/2008-12-15-obama-scotus_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 11:53 AM
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1. Oh, for Christ's sake, will these fucking
anti-American racist nutballs ever go the fuck away? Good gravy. And how in the hell would he be a "British subject" at birth when he was born in Hawaii and his mother was American? God, these people are so fucking stupid. He's already produced his BC time and time again. These anti-American racist fuckers just can't accept that. Maybe if they had more than two brain cells they might be able to do so.

Yes, Obama and his family conspired from his birth and all journalists, the entire state of Hawaii and everyone he dealt with while growing up and in adult life are ALL in on the conspiracy. Sheesh, fucking nutballs.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:27 PM
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5. He was a British citizen at birth; but that changed to Kenyan citizen at independence
2 years later, and then he lost that at age 21 when he didn't actively take it up (Kenya didn't allow dual citizenship for adults) - see http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html .

Through all that time, he was always an American natural-born citizen. The constitution says nothing about it having to be sole American citizenship, so there's no problem.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 04:27 PM
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19. amazing how pro-defense RWers think kenyan law magically passes round the world
and blows right pearl harbor and into the mind of young Barack Obama. That's SOME powerful law! ;) Same with British -- these things stop at our border unless a citizen affirmative decides to affirm them.
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Grey Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:56 PM
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6. the guy's last name says it all......
W rot now ski....
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 02:21 PM
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10. And there are more of these BS cases in the pipeline.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 04:20 PM
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15. great opportunity to attack opponents when at their weakest/most vulnerable
why complain about that???
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 07:21 PM
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24. No, they will never go away
This is a conscious, orchestrated effort to waste a lot of time and governmental resources on non-issues. And as an added bonus, we will get to hear Very Serious Media Commentators intone that "questions still linger" about these Very Important Non-Issues. And these questions will require enough attention that they will crowd out reporting on things like, oh I don't know, a Senate report that has evidence that authorization for the program of torture and murder of detainees went right into the Bush White House. We won't have time to report on that, because the Very Important Non-Issues have captured the little minds who bring us the "news."

So these chuckleheads will never go away.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 11:54 AM
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2. This is the first presidential election that I can remember
that so much time and money was wasted after the election, to support a crazy, irrational, make-believe idea floated by the losing party.

Republicons will believe anything.

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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:02 PM
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3. I'm guessing you weren't around during the Clinton administration.
Kenneth Starr?
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w00master Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:20 PM
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7. It's not all Republicans, don't forget about the nutjob Berg.
It's not all Republicans, don't forget about the nutjob Berg.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 04:25 PM
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18. THese things don't go away, the time to score points is when opponents VERY weak, like now!! nt
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:10 PM
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4. Very many old people born in the US do not have a birth
certificate because they were not born in a hospital. When most of us lived on the farm we did not have the time to make it to a hospital. Up to now we were considered US citizens.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 02:25 PM
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12. Obama has a birth certificate which has been examined and found to be genuine.
This is all just a bunch of nonsense by people panicked at the thought of a Democrat in the White House.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 04:24 PM
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17. and it wouldn't matter if he WERE born in Kenya. (False alternative)
the constitution has two and only two classes;

1. BORN citizens

and

2. ADOPTED citizens (aka naturalized citizens "at time of adoption of constitution")



OBama's been a citizen since birth, never naturalized with a class, an oath, etc.

THey are simply trying to read in racist xenophobic intent into the word "natural" so as to make obama and others "unnatural" born citizens or somesuch.

Since the COnstitution divides all citizens into two types, they can not make up a third type

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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:37 PM
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8. The Court needs to issue a blanket statement that it will not entertain ANY submissions related to
the birth of Barack Obama, that the presumption that he is not a US citizen is absurd. End of story.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:52 PM
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9. That would be an advisory opinion. The SCOTUS decided long ago that it has no power to
issue advisory opinions.
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scytherius Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 02:54 PM
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14. Exactly. They even ruled around 200 years ago they have no authority to do that. n/t
nt
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 02:23 PM
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11. I have a feeling these nutjobs will be filing these cases the whole 4 years
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scytherius Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 02:53 PM
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13. Hey Freepers!!!!!!! If Scalia and Thomas think you are stupid . . . you have no hope in this life.
nt
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 12:07 AM
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25. Hell, for all we know, those two
unconstitutional idiots may have voted FOR hearing the case! I wouldn't be surprised at all, considering those two. I'm in the legal field and you wouldn't believe with what low esteem they're held, with damn good reason.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 04:21 PM
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16. Congress better hurry up and impeach George Washington
He was born a British citizen too. :rofl:
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 04:31 PM
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20. If I ever get crazy enough to run for president, someone remind me...
... that I was actually BORN in Indonesia (albeit of American parents), and would be called some Al Queda offspring there by these whack jobs... I'm glad I don't have such goals!
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 05:25 PM
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21. Doesn't matter if you have been an american citizen since birth
there's only two classes, born citizens and naturalized (adoptive citizens) and I take you were not adopted or didn't choose to become a citizen of this country in later life.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 06:28 PM
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22. I had the option to become an Indonesian citizen up until I became an adult...
That was the way it was explained to me earlier. But yes, I was born an American, but I've had varying explanations of whether I could or couldn't run for president. I'm probably pretty close to what McCain is, but then again, Indonesia wasn't arguably a colony/territory of the U.S. like Panama (or at least part of Panama) was earlier when McCain was born there. And I'm sure whether I was entitled to run or not, that someone in the right wing would challenge me on it.

BTW, Land Shark, I think I'm closer to you now than when I was in San Diego when we last met. I'm up in Portland, Oregon now. Stranded albeit in the snow at the moment.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 06:54 PM
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23. Now the electors have met and confirmed Obama's election.
Hey, fascist idiots, it's over!
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