Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Cheney: Obama 'not likely to cede authority' (will “appreciate” the expansions of executive power)

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 04:34 PM
Original message
Cheney: Obama 'not likely to cede authority' (will “appreciate” the expansions of executive power)
Source: Politico

Vice President Dick Cheney said Monday that President-elect Barack Obama will “appreciate” the expansions of executive power achieved during the Bush administration and is unlikely to cede authority back to Congress.

“Once they get here and they’re faced with the same problems we deal with every day, then they will appreciate some of the things we've put in place,” Cheney said during an interview on Rush Limbaugh’s radio show.

“We did not exceed our constitutional authority, as some have suggested,” Cheney insisted. “The President believes, I believe very deeply, in a strong executive, and I think that's essential in this day and age. And I think the Obama administration is not likely to cede that authority back to the Congress. I think they'll find that given a challenge they face, they'll need all the authority they can muster.”

...

“Guantanamo has been very, very valuable. And I think they'll discover that trying to close it is a very hard proposition,” he said.

“Remember, these are unlawful combatants,” Cheney explained. “These are people who don't belong to any recognized military force. They don't obey the rules of warfare. They're unlawful combatants. And you if you're not going to have a place to locate them like Guantanamo, then you either have to bring them here to the continental United States and I don't know any member of Congress who's volunteering to have al Qaeda terrorists deposited in his district.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16594.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 04:39 PM
Response to Original message
1. The VPs first name is so appropriate
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 04:40 PM
Response to Original message
2. I would love to see Pres. Obama use those expanded authorities to crush the GOP and its minions.
They are worse than a cancer in the US and need to be removed, by any means necessary.

After we get our country back on the correct path, the government can be returned to the democracy it should have been all along.

But for now, destroy them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 05:37 PM
Response to Reply #2
19. I agree with you. I never thought I would feel so strongly about
the republicons but I do now because of how extreme and uncompasionate they have become. I wish they would be replaced by a more moderate sane, science appreciating, educated party.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #2
31. And you would be as completely and utterly wrong as Dick Cheney.
Do you really find fascism a more convenient and viable form of government?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #31
33. Well said n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 09:35 AM
Response to Reply #31
38. You obviously do not know the meaning of the word fascism. It has nothing to do with
executive authority, but means the ownership of the government by and for the purpose of corporate dominance.

As for a little benign dictatorship - it can be useful as a temporary device. And this country needs to take drastic action to reverse the damage done by the pukes. Think of it as amputation. Not always the best medical procedure for a case (e.g., a hangnail), but in desperate situations (e.g., gangrene), it is necessary to save the patient.

To make an omelet, sometimes you have to break a few eggs.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 04:42 PM
Response to Original message
3. By all means, keep Guantanamo open
George and Dick are going to have to have some place to stay while their lawyers work on their case.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 05:27 PM
Response to Reply #3
17. What lawyers?
Let them be there with no lawyers, no outside contacts and refuse to confirm or deny their imprisonment!!

A bit of waterboarding and butt pyramid would add spice to their lives.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 02:42 AM
Response to Reply #17
36. But PLEASE...NO pics of THAT butt pyramid!
Seeing Bush or Cheney's wrinkled, liver-spotted old asses would traumatize me for life! :scared:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 04:42 PM
Response to Original message
4. East shit & die, you twisted old ogre
"Oh Dick-crow, I think I hate you most of all"


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 04:44 PM
Response to Original message
5. Your 15 min. are over Dickhead. Go away.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 04:52 PM
Response to Original message
6. dick and his newest, bestest
friend, limpballs??? Maybe dick will shoot him in the face?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 04:54 PM
Response to Original message
7. Lying sack. Those bakers and grandpas and kids and tourists
don't belong in any military force, you felon. Poor Wyoming.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 04:55 PM
Response to Original message
8. Can never find a good throwing shoe when you need one. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 04:58 PM
Response to Original message
9. So Cheney's banking on Obama being unable to resist the temptation of power.
Now I understand why the Republicans are calling Barack The Obamessiah. What good is it to gain the whole world if you lose your soul? They think Barack would gladly trade his soul for power. Just like Bush & Cheney did. I sure HOPE not.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 08:34 PM
Response to Reply #9
29. Given the sorry set of leaders in Congress
perhaps holding onto some authority wouldn't be such a bad thing....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 05:01 PM
Response to Original message
10. I am worried
that Obama will do exactly what Cheney says he will do. It is hard to resist power when you think you can weild it effectively to accomplish good things.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 05:15 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. Hmmm, don't think so.
Nothing in Obama's behavior suggests any of the sociopathology of Cheney's "thinking." That said, there will be those who will read into your comment the number count of your posts...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #10
20. Obama respects the Constitution. I don't think you need to worry.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 05:06 PM
Response to Original message
11. Looks like Dick-Head is counting on remaining in power (behind the scenes as usual)
Unless Obama radically changes how things operate.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. for all you Office Space fans: "um, Dick, we are going to ask you to move again"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 05:15 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. Unfortunately he is a very powerful person.
Not even Nancy and friends would impeach him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #14
32. Yeah but he'll have to deal with Obama. If Cheney had any dirt on him. Hillary would be President.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 05:23 PM
Response to Original message
15. Innocent, but in limbo at Guantánamo
Five Chinese Muslims, captured in Pakistan by mistake, try to get the US Supreme Court to take their case.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0213/p03s03-usju.html

US judge orders five Guantánamo detainees freed
http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/1121/p99s08-duts.html

17 Innocent Guantanamo Detainees Remain Imprisoned
http://ccrjustice.org/newsroom/press-releases/17-innocent-guantanamo-detainees-remain-imprisoned-bush-administration-conti

10-year-old boy prisoner of Guantanamo Bay -- found innocent after two years
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2004Mar/0004.html

The innocent man at Guantánamo
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/09/27/opinion/edwillett.php

Cleared but still held in Guantánamo
http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2008/04/02/cleared-but-still-held-in-guantanamo-moroccan-prisoner-said-al-boujaadia/

Judge Orders 17 Detainees at Guantánamo Freed
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/08/washington/08detain.html













Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 05:24 PM
Response to Original message
16. Fuck you, Dick
Just fuck you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #16
21. Dick is a monster.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 05:44 PM
Response to Reply #21
23. He's like Godzilla
the one with the completely white eyes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #16
40. I second that.
Cheney is being very vocal these last few days, watch out Dick, you will get your just dues.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 05:29 PM
Response to Original message
18. War criminal
Not that America minds having war criminals in office...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PfcHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 05:40 PM
Response to Original message
22. Yeah, and dude "appreciated" your shooting him in the face. Sure.
Adios, mofo.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
scytherius Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 06:11 PM
Response to Original message
24. Cheney better hope not. If he is, you better run little Republicans. n/t
nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 06:26 PM
Response to Original message
25. I've said since early 2004, I'll be surprised if Bush's successor relinquishes *any* power. . .
It's my fervent hope and prayer that Obama will want to dismantle the new powers BushCo has accrued. However, power is more easily grabbed than relinquished, and Obama will have to prove an an exceptional man for him turn it aside.

As the recipient of a political reality altered beyond anything the wildest thinkers could have imagined just a few short years ago, it will take a remarkable will for anyone to revoke these powers, let alone strive to revert it to what it was before. Certainly, there will be a quick return to some aspects of "normality," but the allure of unbridled power will remain and, despite readily accomplished cosmetic improvements, power's seduction will be a Siren song of indeterminate appeal. I hope Obama proves a greater man than even I hope he will prove to be.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #25
26. they couldn't resist when Julius seized Rome
& overrode the Senate, it looks very similar to America now; I doubt that he would restore the proper, legal, balance of powers-because it is not legal, else they wouldn't continue "chanting" their propaganda phrases, trying to encourage people to just passively accept it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #25
28. I think he will - he is a constitional law scholar
Since you felt that in early 2004, I will add that I am certain Kerry would have.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 07:35 PM
Response to Original message
27. Dick, STFU. When we want to hear something from you we will waterboard it out of you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Randomthought Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 08:37 PM
Response to Original message
30. how the h*ll
would Cheney know/ He is just farting in the wind as usual
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 01:25 AM
Response to Original message
34. And arrest Cheney/Bush et al without need for evidence or legal representation.
Edited on Tue Dec-16-08 01:26 AM by Dover
Throw them in Gitmo
and then thow away the key. I think these guys should experience the full effects of
executive power gone wrong.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 02:13 AM
Response to Original message
35. Go fuck yourself, Cheney
How many more times will I need to post this phrase on DU, before that evil son of Satan stands up on his cloven hooves and clop-clops out of D.C. forever? :mad: :grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 07:38 AM
Response to Original message
37. WHAT f***ing "expansion of powers"?
They only exist in the minds of Cheney and Monkeyboy. They are unconstitutional and, hence, illusory.

We MUST NOT allow anyone to act as if those powers exist!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 09:42 AM
Response to Original message
39. Cheney looks sick.I hope he is.I hope he feels sick too.
I hope he dies a horrible,painful,slow death.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 10:11 AM
Response to Reply #39
41. these criminals will get theirs.
I hope they choke on their arrogance and ignorance.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 06:19 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC