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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 12:59 PM
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Eyelash-growth drug wins FDA approval
Source: Richmond Times-Dispatch

Published: December 26, 2008

Allergan Inc., maker of the wrinkle smoother Botox, won U.S. approval to sell the first prescription medicine to enhance dull or thinning eyelashes.

The Food and Drug Administration cleared the solution, called Latisse, after a unanimous recommendation from its outside advisers, Allergan said this morning.

Latisse contains the same main ingredient as Allergans Lumigan, on the market for glaucoma since 2001.

The Irvine, Calif.-based company is targeting Latisse at the $3.7 billion-a-year global market for mascara.

Read more: http://www.timesdispatch.com/rtd/business/local/article/JMAC0268_20081226-092405/162394/
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 01:01 PM
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1. ?! Yeah? Well . . .
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 01:02 PM
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2. i had a friend whose mom had trimmed her eyelashes as a kid and they never
grew back. Bet she would have liked such a product.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 01:06 PM
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5. That's kind of strange. I wonder why her mom would do that. nt
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 01:08 PM
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7. Her mom was a teenager when she did it. Someone told her that if you
cut your eyelashes they grow back fuller. Of course they didn't.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 01:11 PM
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9. Of course!
Sometimes, I'm kind of dumb; it surprises me . . .

:blush:
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 01:32 PM
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14. That is really odd
We lose eyelashes all the time and they always grow back to the regular length.

I wonder why your friends don't grow back to their normal length?

Strange.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 01:52 PM
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17. I don't know. I always assumed it was because eyelashes didn't grow back. Alison's
mother's didn't. That is all I know.
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radhika Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 06:28 PM
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24. This was an idea in my day too...
When I was a kid, we had lots of anecdotes about cutting eyelashes to make them grow back fuller. This was followed by more anecdotes of folks who - like the woman in the post - did that and ended up with no lashes. Same was said about head hair - you cut it to make it grow thicker. Never met anyone, however, who had either result.

But here in Beverly Hills, plastic surgeons promote eyebrow transplants for people that overplucked.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 10:29 PM
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26. Why I'm never plucking my eyebrows. I clean them up a bit but will
wait patiently until thick eyebrows are back in style. Once you start there is no end to how much you have to maintain the bloody things. I don't pay for haircuts usually too.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:25 AM
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35. Yeah they do. Mine did after chemo.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 01:48 PM
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37. Now I know. Thanks for clearing that up.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 05:29 PM
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42. No problem.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 06:33 PM
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44. I think Mom was fibbing, or leaving something out...
Because trimming your eyelashes will not stop them growing. It will make them short, but they will eventually fall out and new ones will replace them.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:17 PM
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46. Well I won't be repeating that story any time soon. LOL!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 01:03 PM
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3. That's pretty brilliant. I wonder if it works on head hair?
Or eyebrows?
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 01:06 PM
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4. pubes?
Somebody HAD to go there! :rofl:
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 01:09 PM
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8. No, you really didn't!
;-)
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 01:07 PM
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6. Or let's you grow a beard like


:yourock:
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 01:12 PM
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10. Figures
the marketer of the drug Botox would do this.

Using this stuff to treat glaucoma is one thing, but to take drugs intended to cure disease for purely cosmetic purposes is asking for trouble. If I wind up on the jury for some socialite whose ambulance chaser is trying to sue somebody for giving him/her this stuff, I might just rule for the plaintiff, but only award one dollar.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 01:31 PM
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13. I wonder if they discovered the eyelash thing accidentally
when they used it on glaucoma patients? Like a side effect or something.
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TXDemGal Donating Member (600 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 02:51 PM
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18. I would imagine that's how they discovered it.
My mom was taking some eye drug related to cataracts this past fall, and I remember her reading the list of possible side effects to me & one of them was eyelashes growing more.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 04:35 PM
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21. That's how they discovered the other effect
from sildenafil citrate, which was developed as a hypertension drug. Today, you'd know it under a different name, Viagra.

I'm all for using drugs for their beneficial side effects, AFTER the thing has been out there long enough to know what undesirable side effects also exist. But using them for purely cosmetic reasons when there is a very short track record is just playing Russian roulette with your health.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 02:27 AM
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31. Yes, those using it started growing longer eyelashes.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 01:39 PM
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15. Rogaine (monoxidil) was originally developed for high blood pressure
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoxidil

History

Minoxidil was first used exclusively as an oral drug (trade name Loniten) to treat high blood pressure. It was, however, discovered to have the interesting side-effect of hair growth and reversing baldness, and in the 1980s, Upjohn Corporation produced a topical solution that contained 2% minoxidil to be used to treat baldness and hair loss, under the brand name Rogaine in the United States and Canada, and Regaine in Europe and the Asia-Pacific. Treatments usually include a 5% concentration solution that is designed for men, whereas the 2% concentration solutions are designed for women. The patent on minoxidil expired on February 13, 1996.<1>
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 02:59 PM
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19. Viagra was originally a cardiac drug.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 01:27 PM
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11. a few points...
Drug companies charge a premium on patented drugs claiming "everyone" benefits since they use that money to research new drugs to "conquer diseases".

So first they patent a drug to combat glaucoma which is easily treated with ditchweed but at a fraction of the cost.

Then they roll those profits back into making and marketing another patented drug to combat the horrors of inadequate eyelashes???

I suggest again that ditchweed might not actually cure the second, but sure might help with the kind of feelings of social inadequacy that cause concern about it...

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 01:40 PM
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16. See post #15 and the history of Rogaine
exactly the same thing that you point out in your post

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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 06:52 PM
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56. Ditchweed cures male pattern baldness?
If you guys could get pot to cure baldness, 50 year old Republican men with bad combovers would demand it be made legal by this time next week.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 01:30 PM
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12. I wish someone...
Edited on Fri Dec-26-08 01:31 PM by Tandalayo_Scheisskop
Would do the same for eyebrows. Eyelashes I have(More than one besmitten young woman has, back in my salad days, waxed rhapsodic about my eyelashes. No, I don't get it either). That said, a really heroic monobrow is something I have always wanted to try. Perhaps I couls wax the ends and have a handlebar monobrow. Now there would be one hell of a fashion statement!
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 06:55 PM
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57. Dude, monobrows SUCK!
I have one that I get waxed once a month...this is not a pleasant experience but it solves the problem of looking like evolution stopped before it reached me.
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OKDem08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 03:04 PM
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20. ahh...the inequity on this planet...
some people die of starvation and others....
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 01:55 PM
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51. wow, it must be an interesting life to go through, such as yours, without a clue.
Edited on Sun Dec-28-08 01:56 PM by Javaman
this was a drug discovered as a side effect in research for glaucoma.

Way to shoot first and ask questions later.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 05:00 PM
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22. Thank Gods that money didn't go into something stupid like AIDS research.
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 01:58 AM
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28. Yeah. I have an extremely painful spine condition
Edited on Sat Dec-27-08 02:01 AM by Oak2004
and you know what drugs we have for treating severe pain?

Opiates.

Same drugs we had in 2008 BC, plus or minus a few relatively minor chemical tweakings.

We do have a few useful adjunctive drugs, but the primary treatment for pain remains exclusively a family of drugs we've had since before the dawn of medicine.

But hey, if the abrupt deterioration in my condition that occurred a week or so ago causes me to pluck my eyelashes out in agony, now I'll be able to grow them back.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 07:44 AM
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33. I'm in the "messed up spine" club myself
Yep, no treatment other than cutting me in half and fusing half my vertibrae but I've got all the Vicodan I can eat.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 02:28 AM
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32. Stupid?The medication was developed
to treat glaucoma. Eyelashes is a side effect of the medication.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 01:57 PM
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52. yeah, glaucoma is such a wimp disease...
:eyes:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 05:54 PM
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23. I'm glad the FDA continues to focus on important products. nt
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 01:58 PM
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53. Yet another shoot first and ask questions later response.
:banghead:
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 07:21 PM
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25. Stupid science and waste of money award goes to......... n/t
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 12:01 AM
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27. You can't understand, since you don't suffer from thinning eyelashes.
You can't imagine the anguish a woman can feel when her husband's eyes rove to the young thing with a long, full, voluptuous set of lashes. Or when she loses out on a job because the other candidates had lashes to bat at a potential boss.

Such agony....

:sarcasm:
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 02:10 AM
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29. lol. Well done.
Oh, Rhett, I do believe I'm getting the vapors.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 01:59 PM
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54. nt
Edited on Sun Dec-28-08 02:00 PM by Javaman
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 02:25 AM
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30. Hah. Little do you know.
The medication was developed to treat glaucoma. It also works on eyelashes.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:18 AM
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34. Pot works on Glaucoma
When is the FDA going to approve that. It also helps with the nausea that just about every other freaking pill in existence causes.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 05:26 PM
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41. WTF are you asking me for? How would I know. I don't work for FDA.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 05:41 PM
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43. Well what are you waiting for???
Go get a job there. We need someone on the inside! B-)
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 02:00 PM
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55. Fool.
do you know that the research actually was for Glaucoma? or don't you ever read past the headline?

sigh.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:30 AM
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36. I would NEVER EVER put something like that on my eyes!
I had a serious vision scare the summer before last and the fear & depression that I experienced over it is something I don't ever want to go through again.

IMO, you just don't screw around with your eyes.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 11:42 PM
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48. so, if you had glaucoma you would not use Lumigan?
I'll bet you your eyesight you would

then again, maybe not.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 02:02 PM
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38. Meanwhile, a parishioner of mine is dying of an "orphan" disease
that's too rare for med companies to put research dollars towards. :grr:
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 05:07 PM
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39. Glaucoma is a disease that affects on in 200 people. The drug in question was developed for that d
disease.

Fault drug companies all you want, but remember that profitable applications for drugs like this and like Viagra are what fund the research for all the other drugs we get. For your parishioner the only hope that pharmaceutical companies might someday develop medicines to help is if there is profit coming from somewhere.

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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 05:26 PM
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40. The drug was developed to treat glaucoma, which affects a lot
of people. The side effect of the drug are the longer eyelashes.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 08:33 PM
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45. It's obvious by now that the outraged folks in this thread aren't *reading* the thread (nt)
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 11:40 PM
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47. the amount of ignorance on this thread is eye opening to me
pun not intended

i am looking at DU in a new way

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diamidue Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 01:36 AM
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49. sick. n/t
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 11:20 AM
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50. bizarre side note. I have alopecia and have no eye lashes what so ever...
I would love to have something like this. Why, you ask? because, since I don't have lashes, I am subject to having all kinds of crap fall or fly into my eyes.

You folks with lashes haven't the foggiest idea of what life is like with out them.

Yeah yeah, you say, boo hoo for me, right. Wrong. I have worked as a mechanic and as a construction worker in my life and oh how I wish I had lashes. All the crap, paint chips, bits of rust, dust, etc, that has fallen into my eyes has required a few emergency room visits just to pluck this garbage out.

So before you condemn, take a step back.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 01:32 AM
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58. As a Glaucoma patient I use a drug similar to this one to keep from going blind.
Edited on Thu Jan-01-09 01:36 AM by davsand
I use eye drops once a day to control the inner pressure in my eyes. The drops keep my optic nerve from being destroyed by inner eye pressure that is too high.

The first line of treatment for Glaucoma often (usually) is a beta blocker eye drop. I have a serious enough reaction to that particular drug that my Docs warned me never to use any beta blocker again because it could possibly kill me. The particular family of drugs that Lumigan falls in is another treatment option that is NOT a beta blocker.

The drugs in this class are fairly expensive--to the point that one month's worth of my eye drops would sell for about $140 retail. I have a prescription drug benefit as a government employee, and even with that I still pay $40 per month for my drops because my insurance company considers it a "top tier" drug.

Trust me, I'm not bitching because I know how lucky I am to even HAVE insurance--let alone drug coverage. I offer this information simply so you can understand me when I say I have serious doubts that this new drug is anything that MOST people are gonna be using simply out of vanity. There really is a medical reason why you have eyelashes, and THOSE people will benefit from having a drug available (meaning FDA approved) for treatment of that condition.

Docs have known for a while about the eye lash growth that attends the use of these drugs, but prescribing for that purpose was not possible because up to now, that was considered an "off label use" and not covered by most prescription coverage including Medicare and Medicaid. Now they can prescribe that drug FOR that use and maybe help a few more people.

Lest you think this stuff is "harmless" there are a few other side effects they warn you about, including a possible change in eye color. I can't imagine that anyone vain enough to pay that kind of cash for longer lashes is gonna be willing to risk their eyes permanently turning muddy brown as a possible side effect.

YMMV.



Laura

PS, before you (vague you, not anyone in particular) come in here and tell me I need to be smoking pot instead of using eye drops, I'd like to ask you how much do you value YOUR sight? I WANT to see my kid grow up, and I like to watch the sun set. I am not willing to gamble that I can smoke enough pot every two or three hours ROUND THE CLOCK to keep my eyesight. Would YOU be willing to bet with your eyesight?
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