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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 04:11 PM
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Yellowstone Earthquakes Raise Fears
Source: AOL News

Jan. 3) - Several more earthquakes rattled Yellowstone National Park on Friday, raising fears over the recent geological activity in the area.

Swarms of small earthquakes happen frequently in Yellowstone, but it's very unusual for so many earthquakes to happen over several days, says Robert Smith, a professor of geophysics at the University of Utah.

"They're certainly not normal," Smith said. "We haven't had earthquakes in this energy or extent in many years."Since Dec. 26, about 400 temblors have rumbled under the park, centered under the northern end of Yellowstone Lake. The small quakes Friday registered up to a magnitude of 3.5.

Read more: http://news.aol.com/article/yellowstone-earthquakes-raise-fears/292261
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 04:14 PM
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1. The problem is that nobody has a clue what leads up
to a super eruption. The last one was Mt. Toba, and it nearly wiped out life on the planet including early humans.

If it blows, it's been nice knowing all of you. Even here in NM, we'll be buried under the ash.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 04:40 PM
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4. But this isn't "Mt." Yellowstone...
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 04:43 PM by Baby Snooks
There is a debate apparently about what type of volcano we are looking at. All we see is a caldera volcano that hasn't erupted in any modern times in which any record of it having erupted was made.

We don't know what it was 640,000 years ago. It probably was "Mt." Yellowstone which erupted violently as many others including Krakatoa have. What we see is the remnant. Krakatoa left a similar remnant. As did Toba.

And what we may see is the beginning of new flows rather than an explosive event. But the earthquakes do indicate we are about to see something finally. The entire earth as we know it really has been dormant. It is coming to life once more. Changing. Sometimes violently. Sometimes not.

Yellowstone also may be the remnant of an enormous volcanic vent that formed our continent. Hawaii was formed and is still being formed by a similar vent. If so, the vent is about to form new land mass. Possibly violently. Possibly not.

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:15 PM
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7. Check out that "hot spot" theory
regarding Yellowstone.

Oddly enough, it's the one I take a lot of comfort from. I'd be a lot more concerned with a bulge anywhere to the northeast of the caldera than in the bottom of the lake.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 12:47 AM
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43. Well, there should be a layer of ash in the geologic record around that time...
I assume that how they know it erupted then, the distribution of that layer of ash should give hints to what will happen.
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 05:30 PM
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64. This is true
I look at the USGS site on a daily basis (CA resident), & although I'm no scientist, my own opinion, for what it's worth, is that the area is just releasing a relatively small amount of built up pressure. At least I hope so, because the alternative it too terrible to contemplate. Certainly, one day it will blow for real and no one really knows when it will happen or how bad it will be, or just how much of the North American continent will be habitable afterward. Even the best geologists and volcanologists don't have any real clue, just hypotheses. Pretty scary, but we can't live our lives afraid of something we have no control over. It's like the Cascadia subduction zone off the Northwest coast of North America. I pay a lot of attention each time I see any significant quake in that region. It should scare the hell out of anyone who lives there. If there is a megathrust quake along the entire zone, it will make the Indonesian tsunami look like a gentle wave. It will be utterly devastating and more people than anyone could possibly imagine will die, either from the massive quake or the massive tsunami certain to follow. Portland, Seattle, British Columbia and parts of Northern California will be inundated by this tsunami, and it will almost certainly hit and do significant damage to Hawaii and Japan. Scientists say it's long overdue to rupture, so it truly is a time bomb waiting to go off. But what can you do?
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 09:32 AM
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79. A caldera volcano isn't and needn't be a 'mountain' or volcanic cone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurgent_dome

And the earth is never 'dormant'. That's an absurdity; geological timescales are tremendously longer than the lifespan of humans, and indeed largely of the human species, but over the past two centuries there has been significant volcanic activity worldwide (see: Krakatoa, Pinatubo, the Mount Tambora eruption in 1815 that led to the so-called 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer">year without a summer').
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 04:54 PM
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5. Thanks for mentioning Toba. I had to look it up to recall the details.

Toba Eruption Theory Re: Human Genetic Bottleneck

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory

http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/stanley_ambrose.php


Some new research challenges the theory somewhat:

Mount Toba Eruption - Ancient Humans Unscathed, Study Claims
http://anthropology.net/2007/07/06/mount-toba-eruption-ancient-humans-unscathed-study-claims/
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:36 PM
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That 15,000 figure was pulled out of somebody's butt
I've often thought that small groups of humans and proto humans survived all over the planet, minus the very young and the very old and the people who were particular about what they ate.

"Unscathed" is as ridiculous as limiting humanity to 15,000 Homo Saps.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:29 PM
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26. Yes I agree......n/t
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 09:34 AM
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80. Explain the genetic bottleneck evident in human DNA then?
I think it's kind of absurd to assume that there must have been more than 15,000 humans on the planet at some far-distant time just because you think that 'limiting' the species is 'silly'. Humans are not special or unique among the animal species of the planet.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:01 PM
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20. Prevailing winds might save me here west of the cascades.
Assuming Rainier, Baker, Helens, etc, don't wake up. Interesting times. The government suggestion of having 3 days of food and water on hand is pretty laughable. If you don't have at least a month, you is screwed, from a major event like this, or the triple 8.0+ sequence that happens on the New Madrid Seismic Zone every couple hundred years, etc.
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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 09:50 PM
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34. Name one species extincted by the Toba eruption
I see this notion raised repeatedly that the super-eruptions that occur every 100,000 years or so on earth are extinction-level events but the evidence simply does not support that. The only kinds of eruptions that are ELEs are the vanishingly rare "mantle plume" eruptions like the one that caused the Siberian traps and the world's greatest mass extinction ever 250,000 years ago.

I've never seen reports of super-eruptions like Toba and Yellowstone extincting this or that species, which clearly supports a conclusion that, while horrific, their effects are less than some would fear. If they killed off vegitation globally, for example, you'd expect all kinds of species to go extinct.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 04:16 PM
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2. I guess I picked the wrong week to check out...
Cormac McCarthy's "The Road" from the public library?

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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 11:31 AM
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58. That is a powerful
book. It gave me chills.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 12:01 AM
Response to Reply #58
75. Baby roasting?
Wow. Hard to believe it made Oprah's Book Club™.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 09:06 AM
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78. Have you read it?
It leaves you with a powerful emotion. Very well written.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 04:17 PM
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3. This is not LBN since it has been posted 2 or 3 times earlier today. n/t
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:03 PM
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6. Time to repeat the ceremonial response?
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 05:03 PM by SpiralHawk
...may be time for a re-do ?

"While dwelling amid the high mountains along the North American Continental Divide, Bennie LeBeau of the Eastern Shoshone tribe experienced a torrent of dreams and visions, especially in 1999. The visions directed him to set in motion the plans for a massive Medicine Wheel Ceremony.

"Over the last year Bennie has become aware of many sharply distressing changes in both land and animals at Yellowstone National Park in Wyoming. These changes are becoming even more ominous right now, he says, and they have prodded him into direct action to bring his visions alive."

http://www.chiron-communications.com/communique%209-2.html


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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:20 PM
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8. Awesome stuff, I am in Tahoe
PM me if you have any more details you'd like to sahre, we are continuing some medicine circles this year, perhaps we can integrate these ceremonies?
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:36 PM
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9. Yellowstone is our grave marker.
All the land has to do is cave in and out it will flow. Last time I checked Yellowstone was experiencing lifting and tilting in some regions. Last I left Anthropology, we had all checked out of Africa three times. This means humans or prehumans were wiped out elsewhere twice. Think of how incredibly difficult it would be to feed a family and even to find another surviving family to continue the species all the while drought,inhospitable atmosphere and an unforgiving ice age are setting in.

Yellowstone is a supervolcano and is past due for its next event. It is time to do something about it and not let it be the decider.
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chucktaylor Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:49 PM
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10. Do something about Yellowstone? What?
And I thought people were arrogant thinking they could do something about the climate.
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MikeE Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:55 PM
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11. Interesting that you bring up climate change
Maybe this is the earth's way of cooling back down, (a super eruption).
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 07:53 PM
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18. Actually no, Earth's external climate has zero influence on its interior heat.
However, the reverse is true, that Earth's interior heat can have dramatic effects on Earth's external climate.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 06:36 PM
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15. Nothing is better than nothing?
Sounds like you have the typical plan, sad to say. Just let it happen?
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chucktaylor Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:34 PM
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28. Man isn't letting anything happen. Man has no power over this event.
But since you think otherwise, what is your plan? Let's here your ideas.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 12:36 AM
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41. What specifically do you think humans could do? n/t
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 07:51 PM
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17. Er, I think he means preparing for the aftermath, not "fixing" Yellowstone or whatever.
There's diddly-squat we can do about a volcano of any size, never mind a caldera miles across. All we have control over is how we deal with what comes after.
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chucktaylor Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:35 PM
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29. His response to me above proves you wrong. He thinks man can fix it.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:49 PM
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32. His post #10 proves nothing about nothing.
*cheeky*
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 12:49 AM
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44. Nothing is impossible as long as it doesn't violate the laws of physics...
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chucktaylor Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:49 AM
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51. Fine, What is your idea? Or are you just trying to get your post count up?
would have thought that was my job.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 05:28 AM
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76. What is with your snotty little comments?
:shrug:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #76
84. Those damn elitists.
What with their high school educations. Lording it over us.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 10:07 AM
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100. I prescribe to the Futurama solution. One giant ice cube. nt
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 07:54 PM
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19. there will be survivors in that scenario
in the underground bunkers/cities that have been already set up. of course, they will be for the "elite", not the unwashed masses.
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tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:03 PM
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21. Supervolcanoes are beyond the power of puny humans to intervene
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 08:05 PM by tclambert
We could maybe deflect an asteroid with a nuke, if we could deliver it. But a supervolcano is bigger than all the nuclear weapons ever made put together. And there's not really any way to nuke a budding supervolcano. The magma chamber is deep, very deep, like 10 km down. And if you bomb it, you may delay it, or you may trigger it. You certainly won't cool it down or stop the engine that drives it.

The forces that drive tectonic processes are way beyond human scale. Convection currents in the Earth's mantle move continents. Not very fast, but they do move whole continents. The last Yellowstone eruption, about 640,000 years ago, threw roughly 1,000 cubic kilometers of rock, ash, and dust into the air. The 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens created a debris avalanche of about 2.9 cubic km.

The only way to deal with supervolcanoes is to escape off the planet.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:21 PM
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37. If we could make a couple real big
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 12:50 AM
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45. It would trigger it most certainly.
As would any other attempt to relieve pressure, only some clever way of sucking the heat of out of the sucker would work.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 05:20 AM
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53. The USGS sayeth ...
"Similar earthquake swarms have occurred in the past in Yellowstone without triggering steam explosions or volcanic activity. Nevertheless, there is some potential for hydrothermal explosions and earthquakes may continue or increase in magnitude. There is a much lower potential for related volcanic activity."
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:01 AM
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47. Yellowstone Earthquakes: Supervolcano Update

Yellowstone Earthquakes: Supervolcano Update

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2009/01/02/yellowstone-earthquakes-supervolcano-update.html

"Jake Lowenstern, Ph.D.,YVO's chief scientist, who also is part of the USGS Volcano Hazards Team, told TIME that it doesn't appear a supervolcano event is imminent."

I hope he is right.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:22 AM
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50. He's never seen a super-volcano, how does he know?

There's no sense in worrying about it, there's not much of anything we can do, other than, say, dig our fallout shelters.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:27 AM
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56. If one was imminent, would they bother telling us?
Probably as many people would die from mass panic as from sitting it out.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:18 AM
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49. Do what about it?

We're far away from having the technology to deal with it. I guess we can dig bomb shelters...
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:55 AM
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55. i was hoping for it to be an asteroid
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:21 PM
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66. There is nothing humans can do to stop a supervolcano from erupting.
Its power is beyond anything people could possibly bring to bear.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 06:22 PM
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12. It's Bush's fault.
I'm going to enjoy continuing to say that after the Freepers blamed everything on Clinton during the Bush disaster.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 07:06 PM
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16. Yes your right
Arrest Yellowstone this instant. If Bush doesn't then it's his fault. Yellowstone is a suicider.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 11:54 PM
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102. Fox would label it
Yellowstone Super Volcano (D-Wyoming)
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:17 PM
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35. I say we make it a point to blame EVERYTHING bad on Bush
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 10:17 PM by Jamastiene
for the next 8 years. No ifs, ands, or buts. It's ALL his fault. Payback time! :evilgrin:
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 12:38 AM
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42. great...then the next 8 years everything will be Obama's fault
this back and forth stuff does get old

btw, I know you were being sarcastic :)
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 06:27 PM
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13. I just got an email from Yellowstone N Park today about great vacation packages
Timing of the promotional email is ironic. I have no plans to take them up on the offers anytime soon!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:28 PM
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25. You might want to reconsider
Those at ground zero if a supervolcano goes are the very, very lucky ones. Bright light, bye-bye. The rest of us smother and starve to death.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 06:31 PM
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14. all the mosquitoes landed
love that place but the mosquitoes and bugs are vicious and huge.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:19 PM
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22. I read this earlier today and didn't know how seriously to take it
http://dudespaper.com/ok-time-for-plan-b.html/

"Essentially, a bunch of earth quakes around a volcano that is over due to erupt is not a good thing unless you’re really into epic fireworks and breathing ash instead of air. If Yellowstone blows, the impact could make the 1980s Mt. St. Helen’s eruption look laughable, man. There is a potential for a good portion of Montana and Wyoming to end up on top of New England. Which sucks for a large part of the United States but what will suck for everyone else and every other living thing on the planet will be the sheer volume of carbon ash put into the atmosphere – potentially enough to obscure the sun for a long time. Darkness will warsh over the earth like a black steers tookus on a moonless prairie night. This would result in a year round winter. No sunlight means plants can not photosynthesize which means herbivores do not eat plants which means, yes, yes, everything is fucked here."



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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:32 PM
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27. How seriously to take it? That's a tough one
After all, if you're going to take it seriously, you have to do something. There's nothing to be done here and worrying about it won't change a thing, just make you a worrier. Either it's nothing, in which case, wasted worry. Or it's not going to be nearly as big as anyone thinks, in which case, wasted worry. Or the Caldera is going to blow and all live on earth will be wiped out including you, the worrier.

It sounds like I'm making light of this, but really I'm just expressing that this is just too big to even worry about.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:40 PM
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30. EVERYTHING I read
about this situation tends to confirm what you've written here.....BUT given that some of us are compulsive worriers, we'll just go on worrying! Logically you're right, but..... Ms Bigmack
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:41 PM
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31. Yeah, that was the point of what I linked to. n/t
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:19 PM
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36. Can I steal that?
I'm a worrier from the get go...on EVERYTHING. I know I need to stop so much worrying. I think your logic will help on that. :)
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:39 PM
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39. Sure,
but I'm worried it might not help. ;)
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:02 AM
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48. We're here, and it erupted 640,000 years ago.
That suggests it is possible to survive.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:23 PM
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68. Yeah we are here, but we all immigrated here.
If it goes, eventually people may come here from other places, but the people that are here now....
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:25 PM
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23. Lots of shakin' goin' on all over...>
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 08:29 PM by Dover



Second Large Quake Hits Indonesia

INDONESIA - The second event (7.5) occurred 3 hours later. Geographic coordinates: 0.714S, 133.245E. Magnitude: 7.5 Mw. Depth: 45 km. Universal Time (UTC): 3 Jan 2009 22:33:42. Time near the Epicenter: 4 Jan 2009 07:33:42. Local standard time in your area: 3 Jan 2009 22:33:42. Location with respect to nearby cities: 95 km (59 miles) W (281 degrees) of Manokwari, Irian Jaya, Indonesia.
Jan 3, 2009 - 3:41:13 PM


Yellowstone Earthquake Swarm Reaches 500 and Counting

Over 500 earthquakes, as large as M 3.9, have been recorded by an automated earthquake system since the inception of this unusual earthquake sequence that began Dec. 27, 2008. More than 300 of these events have been reviewed and evaluated by seismic analysts.
Jan 3, 2009 - 3:28:11 PM


6.2 Mag Quake Hits Hindu Kush Region, Afghanistan

AFGHANISTAN - Geographic coordinates: 36.530°N, 70.780°E. Magnitude: 6.2 Mw. Depth: 188 km (116.8 miles). Universal Time (UTC): January 03, 2009 at 20:23:20 January 04, 2009 at 12:53:20 AM at epicenter. Location with respect to nearby cities: 66 km (41 miles) SSE (163°) from Feyzabad, Afghanistan.
Jan 3, 2009 - 12:52:18 PM


Large 7.7 Quake Hits Coast of Papua, Indonesia

INDONESIA - Geographic coordinates: 0.510S, 132.783E. Magnitude: 7.7 Mw. Depth: 35 km. Universal Time (UTC): 3 Jan 2009 19:43:54. Time near the Epicenter: 4 Jan 2009 04:43:54. Local standard time in your area: 3 Jan 2009 19:43:54. Location with respect to nearby cities: 150 km (93 miles) WNW (286 degrees) of Manokwari, Irian Jaya, Indonesia.
Jan 3, 2009 - 12:36:50 PM



7.0 Earthquake Hits Santa Cruz Islands

Geographic coordinates: 11.463S, 166.267E. Magnitude: 7.0 Mw. Depth: 102 km. Universal Time (UTC): 2 Jan 2009 20:37:18. Time near the Epicenter: 3 Jan 2009 07:37:18. Local standard time in your area: 2 Jan 2009 20:37:18. Location with respect to nearby cities: 462 km (287 miles) NNW (348 degrees) of Santo (Luganville), Vanuatu.
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Leftest Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:27 PM
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24. 2012 Rapidly Approching
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 09:20 PM
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33. COOL Trailer! Thanks for the link to that-
And welcome to DU-
BHN
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 12:18 AM
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40. Good of them to release it before 2012!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 05:38 AM
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54. Wow - massive fear mongering by Sony pictures
Sounds like they have been influenced by the republicon fear mongers...

...because that trailer is all about fear, and in no way representative of what Traditional Mayan Elders say about their calendar and 2012
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 05:33 AM
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77. What, is this the first time you've ever seen a disaster film being promoted?
Godzilla and giant ants were the product nuclear testing and nuclear waste. Light on facts, heavy on OH MY GOD YOU MUST SEE THIS FILM COME WATCH IT OOO SPECIAL EFFECTS COME WATCH DO IT DO IT NOW!!! I was born long after that era, but I've seen footage of old promos for such films. Not much has changed. Somehow, I don't think "republicon fear mongers" were behind them either.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 12:19 PM
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85. Sounds like they've been influenced by new age woo woos.
And P. T. Barnum's quote about suckers being born every minute.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:27 PM
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38. not normal for a volcanically active area to quake? huh?
:shrug:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 12:53 AM
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46. Earthquakes do occur around volcanoes, even in the lack of eruption...
but the presence of so many in such a short period of time suggests some faster form of change is going on below. Earthquakes pick up before an eruption, in other words. That would seem to be what's happening here.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 05:11 AM
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52. Something there is that doesn't love a population not terrified into compliance
Edited on Sun Jan-04-09 05:18 AM by melody
Hate as I do to interrupt thread pockets of mass panic with a little hope ... there is a far greater likelihood that what will happen will be what almost always happens ... nothing.

After the Landers/Big Bear earthquake, the people at Cal Tech told us a "great earthquake" in So Cal might be imminent.
After the Northridge earthquake, we were told it was a very strong possibility. Well, not so much ... Yes, yes, I know, it could have happened (the true believers pout)! But I think we all lived through the Y2K commercials for products that sounded more like a Monster Truck rally grudge match ("Sunday! Sunday! Sunday! This could be the end of all mankind!"). There are just too many people who get off on/profit from/slaver over the prospect of mass doom ... so much so they promote a belief in it. Before it all, there was the "the whole things shakin' away" crap fest 1969. IMHO, something there is that doesn't love a population not terrified into compliance. Every so often, the media starts hurling Killer Asteroids, Monster Earthquakes, etc, at us. They needed a new one it seems (the old ones just don't wield enough terror) so now it's the Yellowstone Apocalypse. A frightened population is a more easily controlled one. We tend to yield more readily to the yoke that way. And our fellow citizens aid in this by nursing their own wish to see mankind incinerated and giggling gleefully over the idea.

Get your emergency stuff together, know your basic plan, then don't worry about it happening. If it does, you're ready. Most likely it won't. And living in terror is a bad place to be in any event. Fear makes us stupid ... which may also be part of the plan.

I should also mention this message from the USGS:
"Similar earthquake swarms have occurred in the past in Yellowstone without triggering steam explosions or volcanic activity. Nevertheless, there is some potential for hydrothermal explosions and earthquakes may continue or increase in magnitude. There is a much lower potential for related volcanic activity."
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:44 AM
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57. Scientists have been taking a closer look at activity in the Hot Springs, AR area too
http://www.livescience.com/environment/081128-ap-arkansas-earthquakes.html

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) _ A series of small earthquakes that rattled central Arkansas in recent weeks could be a sign of something much bigger to come.

By this weekend, seismologists hope to install three measurement devices to gather data about future temblors in the area. That information could show whether the rumbles come from heat-related geological changes or from an undiscovered fault — which could mean a risk of substantial earthquakes in the future.

One possible culprit could be a hydrothermal quake, caused by extremely hot fluid pushing into rocks under the surface. The hot fluid percolates into the cracks of the rocks and causes movement, Al-Shukri said.

That theory matches the geologic history of the area. Central Arkansas is home to Hot Springs, a city that grew up around its namesake spas. The springs have 143-degree waters rushing to the surface continuously.

If that's the case, the earthquakes likely wouldn't pose a drastic danger to the area, Al-Shukri said. At their strongest, such quakes reach only a magnitude of 5, the U.S. Geological Survey's threshold for "moderate."

However, if the earthquakes are caused by a previously unknown fault, that could mean a much more powerful temblor in the future. A recently discovered fault in eastern Arkansas near Marianna caused an earthquake with a magnitude of between 7.2 and 7.5 in the past 5,000 years, Al-Shukri said. That could cause widespread, heavy damage.

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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 11:45 AM
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59. From RSOE
a snippet. Looks like Homeland Security and FEMA are monitoring it closely too.
There was just a 4.3 quake in Nevada according to my EQuake firefox addon widget.
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/woalert_read.php?cid=19822&lang=eng


Situation Update No. 5
On 04.01.2009 at 05:38 GMT+2

At 11:32 this morning, a 3.5 magnitude earthquake was reported 38 miles east southeast of West Yellowstone, Mont., in Yellowstone National Park — the latest in a swarm of earthquakes that has hit the area in the past week. The 3.5 tremor was followed this afternoon by a 3.2 magnitude quake at 12:40 p.m. and a 3.0 temblor at 1:15 p.m. The swarm of more than 500 tremors is the largest series of back-to-back quakes to hit the area in years, according to scientists.
snip

Professor Robert B. Smith, a geophysicist at the University of Utah and one of the leading experts on earthquake and volcanic activity at Yellowstone, said that the swarm is of keen interest to scientists. "It's not business as usual," said Smith. "This is a large earthquake swarm, and we've recorded several hundred. We are paying careful attention. This is an important sequence." Smith noted that beginning in 2004, there was "accelerated uplift of the Yellowstone Caldera" that covered the entire caldera. In 2007, Smith and his University of Utah colleagues said the current rise in the caldera was "unprecedented" but concluded that because there were no major earthquakes or "earthquake swarms" accompanying the uplift, they found "little indication that the volcano is moving toward an eruption." The last major earthquake swarm was in 1985 and lasted three months, Smith told The Denver Post. The Yellowstone Plateau, which comprises Yellowstone National Park, is one of the largest super-volcanoes in the world and has gone through three volcanic cycles spanning two million years that included some of the world's largest-known eruptions. Through 5 p.m. Dec. 31, the swarm had included 12 events of magnitude 3.0 to 3.9 and approximately 20 of 2.5 to 2.9, with a total of 400 quakes large enough to be located.

The observatory said similar swarms have occurred in the past without triggering steam explosions or volcanic activity. However, the observatory said there is some potential for explosions and that earthquakes may continue and increase in intensity. Joe Moore, director of the Wyoming Office of Homeland Security, said his office is tracking the events at Yellowstone on a minute-by-minute basis. "It's being followed very closely," said Moore. He said his office has evaluated the emergency plans — which includes evacuations — developed by Teton County, where Jackson Hole is located, and Park County, where Cody is located. Should a destructive earthquake or volcanic explosion occur, he said his agency would assist those counties as well as communities in Fremont County, which includes the Wind River Indian Reservation. He said the Federal Emergency Management Agency in Denver is closely monitoring the seismic activity in Yellowstone. "They are following it as much as we are," said Moore. "There has been an outstanding exchange of information" between local, state and federal agencies, he said. Yellowstone is the site of the largest and most diverse collection of natural thermal features in the world.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #59
60. I LOVE that site... I check it every day.
Looks like the mother ship is preparing to shake off some fleas.
Can you blame her?

BHN
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 03:54 PM
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61. for a super volcano, doesn't there have to be certain requirements
like underground lava flow coming together from two or three flows? Another words, certain conditions must be met to create a super volcano? Anyhoo, what's to worry about, I say let's just party like it's 2009!!!! who's with me? If there was ever an earth shattering cataclysmic event, I for one wouldn't want to survive. There are some on this planet who already act like sociopathic vampires--who'd want to stick around and watch the Morlocks attempt to survive?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 04:34 PM
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62. I want to party like 1973. I was younger, cuter, stronger.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 04:40 PM
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63. so was I!!!
and man, could I dance!!!!:toast:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #63
65. Yeah, dance all evening,
fuck till dawn, get up go to work still tripping on acid, get home, get a call and invite to yet another party. Start all over again.

I wonder how I survived.
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:21 PM
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67. In the summer of 1962, there was a serious earthquake in Yellowstone.
I was almost 14 years old and I was just outside of Yellowstone, in a campground, when that earthquake took place. Scary.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 11:48 AM
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82. I remember that. I was in Spokane then people could feel
the tremors there. My grandmother said it sounded like marbles were rolling from one end of the attic to the other.

People were caught in one of the campgrounds that was kind of isolated. It was really horrible.

But just think what could happen if the volcanoes there blew up again. My gosh. That would make the one in Washington State look like a baby.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:16 PM
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69. And then... they just suddenly stop? Does that seem right?
Edited on Sun Jan-04-09 09:18 PM by dotcosm
It doesn't pass the sniff test, to me. You don't have 500-some quakes over a few days and then *poof* they just stop.

Do you?

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsus/Maps/US2/44.46.-111.-109_eqs.php

MAP 2.6 2009/01/03 00:23:22 44.669 -110.163 1.0 43 km ( 26 mi) SSW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
MAP 2.7 2009/01/02 20:33:53 44.553 -110.338 0.9 61 km ( 38 mi) SSW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
MAP 2.2 2009/01/02 20:24:50 44.509 -110.371 0.0 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.7 2009/01/02 20:23:57 44.556 -110.357 1.3 60 km ( 38 mi) SSE of Gardiner, MT
MAP 1.4 2009/01/02 20:23:19 44.500 -110.301 2.1 64 km ( 40 mi) SSW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
MAP 3.1 2009/01/02 20:15:39 44.528 -110.366 3.4 60 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 3.2 2009/01/02 19:40:53 44.549 -110.370 0.2 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.2 2009/01/02 18:50:37 44.549 -110.364 1.0 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.8 2009/01/02 18:48:21 44.551 -110.354 0.6 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 3.5 2009/01/02 18:32:49 44.549 -110.357 5.4 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.5 2009/01/02 05:18:21 44.510 -110.389 0.2 59 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.5 2009/01/02 05:10:54 44.546 -110.355 0.1 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.2 2009/01/02 05:06:29 44.545 -110.350 2.1 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.3 2009/01/02 05:05:57 44.557 -110.372 1.8 59 km ( 37 mi) E of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.8 2009/01/02 01:47:46 44.545 -110.373 1.0 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.5 2009/01/02 01:32:53 44.550 -110.356 0.1 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 3.0 2009/01/02 01:30:57 44.560 -110.320 2.2 59 km ( 37 mi) SSW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
MAP 3.1 2009/01/02 01:21:19 44.556 -110.368 3.7 60 km ( 37 mi) E of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 3.1 2009/01/02 01:13:05 44.559 -110.367 1.0 60 km ( 37 mi) E of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.9 2009/01/01 12:51:24 44.552 -110.358 1.0 61 km ( 38 mi) E of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.8 2009/01/01 10:13:51 44.527 -110.353 2.0 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.6 2009/01/01 10:13:00 44.527 -110.356 0.0 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.4 2009/01/01 10:12:57 44.325 -110.388 37.0 68 km ( 42 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.3 2009/01/01 10:12:32 44.535 -110.365 0.6 60 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.9 2009/01/01 10:07:52 44.538 -110.353 2.0 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.8 2009/01/01 10:07:21 44.545 -110.349 0.0 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.6 2009/01/01 10:06:51 44.527 -110.377 0.5 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.9 2009/01/01 10:02:57 44.530 -110.357 2.0 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.9 2009/01/01 06:59:38 44.528 -110.356 2.0 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.4 2009/01/01 05:29:08 44.532 -110.354 0.1 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.5 2009/01/01 05:19:50 44.529 -110.357 0.4 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.5 2008/12/31 15:05:00 44.514 -110.360 1.1 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 3.3 2008/12/31 15:02:11 44.523 -110.361 4.9 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.6 2008/12/31 14:59:43 44.517 -110.373 2.1 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.0 2008/12/31 14:21:47 44.519 -110.370 0.4 60 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.4 2008/12/31 14:07:42 44.520 -110.372 2.2 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.2 2008/12/31 13:41:21 44.506 -110.361 0.8 62 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.9 2008/12/31 13:27:39 44.504 -110.363 0.0 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.5 2008/12/31 12:50:01 44.518 -110.368 2.0 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.1 2008/12/31 12:46:53 44.520 -110.362 2.0 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.9 2008/12/31 12:42:06 44.519 -110.367 0.1 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.6 2008/12/31 12:26:56 44.501 -110.385 2.2 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.4 2008/12/31 12:23:52 44.520 -110.371 1.0 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.7 2008/12/31 11:52:19 44.503 -110.371 0.4 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.3 2008/12/31 11:40:04 44.526 -110.368 2.2 60 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.6 2008/12/31 11:25:24 44.516 -110.376 1.8 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.4 2008/12/31 11:25:11 44.523 -110.364 2.2 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.4 2008/12/31 11:22:16 44.520 -110.382 2.2 59 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.7 2008/12/31 11:15:44 44.522 -110.372 1.2 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.5 2008/12/31 11:12:40 44.516 -110.373 0.6 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.8 2008/12/31 11:08:59 44.532 -110.381 0.4 59 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.4 2008/12/31 11:06:14 44.520 -110.371 1.2 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.9 2008/12/31 11:05:12 44.532 -110.380 0.3 59 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.3 2008/12/31 10:53:29 44.520 -110.364 2.2 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.5 2008/12/31 10:52:23 44.546 -110.394 0.7 58 km ( 36 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.9 2008/12/31 10:43:37 44.524 -110.372 1.5 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.1 2008/12/31 10:26:01 44.532 -110.381 2.0 59 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.8 2008/12/31 10:23:43 44.530 -110.380 1.0 59 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.2 2008/12/31 10:23:07 44.529 -110.380 0.9 59 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.5 2008/12/31 10:21:49 44.521 -110.373 2.1 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.4 2008/12/31 10:16:44 44.527 -110.367 0.8 60 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.4 2008/12/31 10:14:42 44.568 -110.444 7.2 53 km ( 33 mi) E of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.9 2008/12/31 10:13:50 44.531 -110.381 2.1 59 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.4 2008/12/31 10:11:14 44.518 -110.369 2.2 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.3 2008/12/31 10:08:13 44.529 -110.377 2.0 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.1 2008/12/31 10:02:32 44.525 -110.378 0.7 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.3 2008/12/31 09:56:38 44.525 -110.371 1.8 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.1 2008/12/31 09:56:09 44.508 -110.362 2.1 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.1 2008/12/31 09:45:54 44.511 -110.361 2.5 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.7 2008/12/31 09:45:34 44.507 -110.364 2.2 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.1 2008/12/31 09:45:02 44.516 -110.370 2.3 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.2 2008/12/31 09:37:18 44.512 -110.356 1.5 62 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.4 2008/12/31 09:34:27 44.522 -110.365 0.1 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.3 2008/12/31 09:33:05 44.500 -110.369 3.6 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.3 2008/12/31 09:26:32 44.535 -110.365 0.9 60 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.9 2008/12/31 09:21:28 44.533 -110.380 0.7 59 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.4 2008/12/31 09:16:01 44.525 -110.373 2.2 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.3 2008/12/31 09:13:59 44.514 -110.370 1.6 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.6 2008/12/31 09:05:59 44.520 -110.368 0.5 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 3.6 2008/12/31 09:02:28 44.525 -110.362 4.3 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.2 2008/12/31 09:00:19 44.518 -110.366 1.9 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.5 2008/12/31 08:59:21 44.522 -110.362 0.5 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 3.0 2008/12/31 08:58:11 44.527 -110.369 1.3 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.1 2008/12/31 07:27:46 44.535 -110.355 0.4 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.0 2008/12/31 06:19:28 44.528 -110.378 1.0 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.5 2008/12/31 06:02:54 44.529 -110.358 2.0 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.6 2008/12/31 05:59:03 44.531 -110.355 2.0 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.1 2008/12/31 05:58:39 44.528 -110.377 2.0 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.1 2008/12/31 05:24:55 44.543 -110.344 0.1 62 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.2 2008/12/31 05:22:43 44.526 -110.379 1.1 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.5 2008/12/31 05:17:41 44.530 -110.375 1.1 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.8 2008/12/31 05:06:40 44.529 -110.382 1.6 59 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.9 2008/12/30 20:21:32 44.535 -110.353 0.0 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.8 2008/12/30 19:05:13 44.540 -110.350 0.1 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.1 2008/12/30 19:01:06 44.533 -110.359 2.3 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.8 2008/12/30 11:59:07 44.533 -110.374 0.9 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.5 2008/12/30 09:17:43 44.525 -110.379 0.0 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.4 2008/12/30 09:10:20 44.527 -110.380 0.6 59 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.0 2008/12/30 04:02:27 44.503 -110.390 2.4 59 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.1 2008/12/30 03:16:31 44.524 -110.406 1.6 57 km ( 36 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.5 2008/12/30 03:11:35 44.552 -110.359 2.1 60 km ( 38 mi) E of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.0 2008/12/30 03:08:25 44.499 -110.379 2.2 60 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.2 2008/12/30 03:02:08 44.595 -110.318 13.0 56 km ( 35 mi) SSW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
MAP 1.1 2008/12/30 02:50:02 44.787 -110.996 7.2 16 km ( 10 mi) NNE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.2 2008/12/30 02:44:42 44.788 -110.995 7.2 16 km ( 10 mi) NNE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.3 2008/12/30 02:13:36 44.516 -110.360 2.5 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.0 2008/12/30 02:00:37 44.553 -110.341 2.2 61 km ( 38 mi) SSW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
MAP 1.0 2008/12/30 01:51:00 44.517 -110.354 1.8 62 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.3 2008/12/30 01:47:56 44.527 -110.381 1.1 59 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.3 2008/12/30 01:47:26 44.532 -110.359 2.0 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.7 2008/12/30 01:35:08 44.530 -110.361 2.1 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.5 2008/12/30 01:15:37 44.522 -110.360 2.1 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.1 2008/12/30 00:51:20 44.505 -110.373 0.2 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.0 2008/12/30 00:41:35 44.522 -110.361 1.8 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.8 2008/12/30 00:36:39 44.525 -110.362 1.2 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.4 2008/12/29 21:25:15 44.525 -110.360 2.0 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.6 2008/12/29 21:18:51 44.521 -110.362 2.2 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.8 2008/12/29 21:18:36 44.522 -110.359 2.1 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.9 2008/12/29 20:38:25 44.514 -110.381 2.1 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.3 2008/12/29 20:38:04 44.511 -110.385 2.3 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.0 2008/12/29 20:26:29 44.520 -110.355 2.2 62 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.9 2008/12/29 20:14:26 44.498 -110.364 2.3 62 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.4 2008/12/29 20:13:31 44.508 -110.359 2.2 62 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.2 2008/12/29 19:56:46 44.522 -110.365 1.2 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.2 2008/12/29 19:53:50 44.511 -110.377 2.2 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.1 2008/12/29 19:46:13 44.515 -110.386 2.4 59 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.7 2008/12/29 19:44:50 44.525 -110.373 0.0 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.7 2008/12/29 19:40:27 44.511 -110.379 2.5 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.4 2008/12/29 19:37:07 44.502 -110.366 1.8 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.2 2008/12/29 19:36:08 44.521 -110.385 2.0 59 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.7 2008/12/29 19:35:27 44.511 -110.385 2.4 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.9 2008/12/29 19:29:38 44.513 -110.381 0.5 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.5 2008/12/29 19:28:55 44.515 -110.381 0.0 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.8 2008/12/29 19:26:21 44.519 -110.370 2.0 60 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.5 2008/12/29 19:24:43 44.520 -110.342 2.3 63 km ( 39 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 3.3 2008/12/29 19:14:49 44.521 -110.369 1.8 60 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.2 2008/12/29 18:47:45 44.523 -110.371 2.1 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.4 2008/12/29 18:40:00 44.533 -110.359 4.8 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.1 2008/12/29 16:32:12 44.494 -110.360 2.4 62 km ( 39 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.6 2008/12/29 16:31:55 44.491 -110.360 2.3 62 km ( 39 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.2 2008/12/29 16:15:28 44.480 -110.363 2.3 62 km ( 39 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.5 2008/12/29 14:58:37 44.486 -110.354 1.3 63 km ( 39 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.7 2008/12/29 10:25:18 44.523 -110.371 2.4 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.8 2008/12/29 09:14:04 44.527 -110.376 0.3 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.4 2008/12/29 08:57:55 44.527 -110.378 0.5 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.4 2008/12/29 08:28:24 44.527 -110.382 0.4 59 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.0 2008/12/29 05:30:35 44.517 -110.372 1.0 60 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.3 2008/12/29 05:30:04 44.477 -110.349 6.5 63 km ( 39 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.7 2008/12/29 05:29:23 44.489 -110.354 4.2 63 km ( 39 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.4 2008/12/29 05:23:36 44.516 -110.361 6.4 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.9 2008/12/29 04:29:18 44.522 -110.385 1.0 59 km ( 37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.8 2008/12/29 04:25:53 44.514 -110.370 0.1 61 km ( 38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #69
70. It looks like they quit updating
If you look at the sesmic activity online it looks like it just quit working.
http://www.quake.utah.edu/helicorder/lkwy_webi.htm
Odd
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #70
71. Yes, but I didn't want to look all tin-foil-y by saying that
Either scenario is equally *odd* though isn't it?
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 10:24 PM
Response to Reply #71
72. yes it is
I hope it is only a glitch.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 12:11 PM
Response to Reply #70
83. I can't get any data on my EQ monitor. I'm using GEE.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 12:27 PM
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86. This site is updating. They've had one small one today
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 11:46 PM
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73. Obama needs a plan for this.
Can't they do something?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 11:57 PM
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74. Drill here drill now
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 09:39 AM
Response to Reply #74
81. Snort
:spray: :rofl:
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asksam Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 01:54 PM
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87. Great. Another disaster the chimp has stuck us with.
Damn Rethug environmental policies.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 07:16 AM
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88. A Spurt of Quake Activity Raises Fears in Yellowstone
Source: Time.com

A Spurt of Quake Activity Raises Fears in Yellowstone

"Today, such an explosion - 1,000 times more powerful than the explosion of Mount St. Helens in 1980 - would not only cover most of the U.S. with ash but also throw so much dust into the atmosphere that the world's climate could change."

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090105/hl_time/08599186931300



Watch events daily, here-
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index.php?smp=&lang=eng

BHN
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 07:16 AM
Response to Reply #88
89. How does one prepare for a cataclysm?
Geebus.... I'm sitting here and Denver and figure I'm a goner as well as everyone north and west of me if the super volcano decides to blow... Sort of puts that "duck and cover" crap over nuclear threats from my childhood into perspective, though... I'd sort of always assumed you might be the "lucky ones" to be near the center of the blast, rather than the horrendously affected trying to find a way to survive...

Then again, who knows... it may just let off enough pressure and steam so that we live to see another few decades, at least...:shrug:

So, is this why the Cheney's aren't moving back to Jackson, WY? :crazy:
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 07:16 AM
Response to Reply #89
92. food, blankets ..a good dose of luck. n/t
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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 07:16 AM
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93. To slightly paraphrase Warren Zevon, enjoy (savor) every sandwich. nt
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 07:16 AM
Response to Reply #89
94. Guns. Ammo. Survival foods. And more ammo.
And look for the fattest neighbor; he'll be good roasting.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 08:25 AM
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98. LOL... some folks here have apparently not read or seen any
of the documentaries that lay out how extensive the immediate and near immediate death ring would be and how distant from Yellowstone.... Denver is not far enough from Yellowstone to survive the worst case scenario... Actually it is unlikely anywhere in the US would escape the plant life-suffocating ash and its toxic effects...

Guns ammo... yeah, right...
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 07:16 AM
Response to Reply #88
90. Similar fears were expressed about California's Mammoth Mountain a decade ago. . .
swarms of earthquakes clustered over months of activity, a bulging crust miles wide, lots of discussions about historical horrors erupting from the Earth's bowels. Apocalyptic visions emanating from somewhere above the Owens Valley.

Think I'll regard this as I did that and value it as Mark Twain used to do:

"I am an old man," wrote Twain, "and have known many troubles, most of which never happened."
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Lance31 Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 07:16 AM
Response to Reply #90
95. After being dateless..
for 4 and a half years, I look forward to this.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 07:16 AM
Response to Reply #88
91. I never worry about things I have no control over...
Nonetheless, it's good to know what's happening...

Even though I can't do anything about it.

Thanks for the links!

:hi:
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UnrepentantLiberal Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 07:16 AM
Response to Reply #88
96. Is it going to erupt in
2012?

Mommy! :hide:
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 12:13 AM
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103. 2012 IS doomsday, don't ya know?
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 07:16 AM
Response to Reply #88
97. Well, we were supposed to loose California in the 60s, Mama Cass made
a song about it. I could go find it but it's five a.m. and I have to get ready for work.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 08:27 AM
Response to Reply #88
99. " end of the world as we know it - i feel fine"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGqroT1FZ5Y

we will all be dead with 2 years......it`s party hardy time!
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 10:29 AM
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101. Imminent Yellowstone 'Supervolcano' Now 'Unlikely'
NEW YORK (CBS) ― The recent "swarm" of small earthquake tremors happening in Yellowstone National Park are not likely to be a sign of a pending "supervolcano" eruption as some fear, according to a top scientist at the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory.

Dr. Jacob Lowenstern of the U.S. Geological Survey said Monday that the earthquake activity in Yellowstone most likely will continue for weeks, "and then will end without any other related activity."

http://cbs11tv.com/national/yellowstone.earthquakes.volcano.2.898775.html

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