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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:59 PM
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Sarah Palin Questions Media Treatment of Caroline Kennedy
Source: shewired

Alaska governor and former 2008 GOP vice-presidential nominee, Sarah Palin, seems a little miffed by what she perceives to be the easier time Caroline Kennedy, Hillary Clinton’s potential successor in the U.S. Senate, is having with the press despite what many have described as Kennedy’s slim resume.



Palin who appears in How Obama Got Elected, a new documentary film by conservative filmmaker John Ziegler, suggested in an interview which began circulating around YouTube on Wednesday that there is a class based bias in the media and that it has consistently been used against her.

Read more: http://www.shewired.com/Article.cfm?ID=21313



Liberal Media Bias?

Guess that if you're intelligent, capable of independent analytical thought
at least as much as you are capable of attacking the fatcattle sacred cows,
{better duck Rush} then by definition you are a 'biased' liberal.

And the right wing will try to use this reverse discrimination as long as
it 'drums up their base.'
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:00 PM
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1. The references to Caroline as "princess" make my skin crawl. nt
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Blaq Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 03:45 PM
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37. Exactly. When was the last time the world saw Palin's dad assissinated?
Edited on Fri Jan-09-09 03:45 PM by Blaq Dem
Not to mention her uncle. Caroline had to deal with a lot in her life. Palin needs to quite while she's at it.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:06 PM
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2. Check out this posted on the State of Alaska website, no less.
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/news.php?id=1598


She is really starting to get on my nerves.
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:12 PM
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3. Alaskans should complain about it. It's absurd that
anyone would put something like that on the official state website. I am so offended by her efforts to create a divisive issue about Caroline Kennedy.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:12 AM
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11. Starting? LOL, you must be a saint. She got on mine long ago.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 10:57 AM
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32. Is Sarah Palin still in Junior High School?
How can she allow this on the official state web site? It's more evidence of her unprofessionalism. It's all about her, not how we perceive the people of Alaska. She's a moran.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 11:04 AM
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33. the headline alone irritated me
"Governor Says “There You Go Again”"

She's trying to call up Reagan. As bad and sleazy as Reagan was in his personal life, at least he didn't wear it like a banner--like Palin does.



Cher

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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:17 PM
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4. Yes Sarah - Caroline has class, and..
she's educated. You on the other hand are a wasillabilly, that has been a complete embarrassment to our country. And BTW Sarah, your jealousy is showing.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:30 AM
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15. Caroline got through college in well under 5 schools and 6 years, too.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:25 PM
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5. Caroline is not having an easier time and she isn't acting like a victim or claiming sexism
when she has been criticized.

and while Caroline may not be that great a public speaker nobody doubts her intelligence.

Palin is a fucking idiot. she is too stupid to see what a dumb fuck she is and continues to view herself as a victim of the media and everyone else.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:14 AM
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12. In Joe Kennedy's day, Irish were considered beyond low class, but he became ambassador to the
Edited on Fri Jan-09-09 12:28 AM by No Elephants
Court of St.James anyway. Not to mention, the patriarch of one of the most remarkable families in America ever. He was born into a group that was discriminated against and rose above it. Sarah was born WASP and is so proud of being a redneck that she names her company redneck in French (but doesn't get even that right). No sympathy. Call the waaambulance.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 09:59 AM
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28. True - as to class, there is no real pattern - Gore and Kerry were from elite families
Edited on Fri Jan-09-09 10:01 AM by karynnj
and they were treated FAR worse than Palin. Their real lives of public service, accomplishment, and integrity were smeared. The things that hurt Palin were mostly self inflicted. The campaign dared the media to make something of her ethics violations, her lack of knowledge (any middle school kid asked to write an essay on what a VP's role is would have failed with ANY of her answers), and her brash attacks on Obama and Biden - which were ok because she was Sarah.

It is interesting that she brings up "class". The Republicans tried to label the Clintons as not having class in the early 1990s - trying to tar them with Arkansas sterotypes that NEVER fit. During the campaign, it seemed that Palin almost flaunted the fact that her dysfunctional family and her mavericky ability to never respond intelligently to questions. (Can you imagine a Democrat who proud of being uniformed.) If she were a Democrat, would the media have almost blamed the Republicans for her family's real lack of class. Imagine the uproar had Governor Clinton's wife had the DNC spend over $150,000 outfitting her. Imagine the outcry there would have been had one of the teen Gore girls been pregnant.

Oddly enough, I suspect the next Palin or republican fury to be that no one defended Palin as classy.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 07:15 AM
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41. There is socioeconomic class and then there is a classy person. Sarah is not a classy person,
nor a well-education, well-informed or intellectually curious person, no matter which socioeconomic class she falls in. Caroline is a classy person, well-educated and well-informed, no matter which socioeconomic class she falls in. Sarah is attempting to say that Couric and others made a fool of her solely because of her socioeconomic class, but that is untrue.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 03:59 PM
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38. As Grandpas go, Joe Kennedy was not much better than Prescott Bush.
Lower class criminal versus higher-class criminal. Neither was a man to emulate.

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minnesota_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:37 PM
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6. Whaaaah! It's so unfair!
Could it have anything to do with the fact that being a rookie U.S. Senator is nothing at all like being POTUS (which is really what a VP must be qualified for)?

Could it be that Kennedy is well educated and shows a capacity for rational thought... as compared to Palin, who sounds like an overconfident airhead and needed 4 tries before finally getting an undergraduate degree?

Could it be that Kennedy readily admits that she hasn't held office before... as compared to Palin, who pretends that being mayor of the 4,000th largest city in America gave her significant "executive experience" and that being governor of a federal welfare state that's awash in oil money is proof of her executive abilities?

Naw!
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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:39 PM
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7. biggest difference
we have known who Caroline is all of our lives. Who is Sarah Palin? I still have little idea who she is other than a dimwit who seems to be an extra from the movie "Idiocracy".
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:43 PM
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8. Oh-so predictable, sarah. Go back to Alaska, honey, we don't need you down here in the REAL America
You just take care of your bastard grandkid and your daughter's jobless boyfriend.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:50 PM
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9. Oh lady ... just go the f*ck away!
:puke:

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BobTheSubgenius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:06 AM
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10. One thing CK does have going for her...
...not a lunatic.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:16 AM
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13. Not to mention that Caroline can name a SCOTUS case other than Roe v. Wade.
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:25 AM
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14. Wikipedia article on Caroline Kennedy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Kennedy

Looks to me like she has a much better resume than Palin.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:46 AM
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20. It would appear so...
I'm quite impressed with it.

Mooselini flunked out of how many colleges?
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 02:11 AM
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24. I guess Governor doesn't count?
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:21 PM
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35. so what if she's governor?
She's an idiot governor who knows nothing and talks all shit.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:30 AM
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16. oh. for. the. love. of. God!
go the fuck away!!!! Go home!! You lost!! You have nothing more to add that is relevant to the national discussion. Go raise your children. Go make your grandson's other grandmother's life a living hell. Just go!!!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:39 AM
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19. Not on your life! She's determined to be the eternal wad of chewed-up gum
stuck to the bottom of everybody's shoes.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 04:17 PM
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39. Did you read where the mother of the father of bristols baby was arrested for meth in december.
Edited on Fri Jan-09-09 04:24 PM by superconnected
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:32 AM
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17. she wants it both ways, whines and cries like a child but wants to be treated like a VP candidate
its not bean bag, Falin.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:32 AM
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18. On the bright side, nothing like a Palin whine to coalesce Dem support around Caroline.
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DallasNE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:50 AM
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21. This Says More About Sarah Palin
Than it does about Caroline Kennedy.

The message I received from this interview is that Sarah Palin is envious of Caroline Kennedy and falsely bitter about the treatment Kennedy is getting. The problem is that this bitterness reflects on Palin having a severe inferiority complex. No wonder she was more than willing to accept the outlandishly expensive clothing and makeup she received during her VP run. Alaska voters can't be too happy about this display of vanity and neither am I.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:56 AM
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22. ugh...Ziegler is involved in another crapfest??
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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:05 AM
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23. She's right that there is a class bias, but she and other defenders of the status quo benefit from
the same bias she's crying about.
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mackerel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 02:21 AM
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26. Really?!?
Caroline seems to be having a hard time getting much respect of late.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/12/28/2008-12-28_say_goodnight_caroline_how_jfks_daughter.html

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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 02:59 AM
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27. I was talking about Palin's assertion that there's a class-based bias against her.
Edited on Fri Jan-09-09 03:00 AM by ryanmuegge
This sounds like more of Palin's faux populism.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 10:37 AM
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30. No - it was her actions that led to negative press
She was a middle class daughter of a school teacher. The things she was called on were for being nearly vacant in interviews - to the point that Tine Fey did not need to re-write her mindbogglingly stupid answers. These were not a couple of taken out of context, worse quotes ever from her - it was every interview she did.

This was either the persona the Republicans asked her to adopt - being proudly ignorant or real. It is not area - the new Alaska Senator is gracious and well spoken. It is not that she is woman - HRC has been in the public eye for about 2 decades and it would be hard - over that entire interval to find as many really dumb comments as Palin made in 2 months. Whether you like HRC or not, one of the first images you have of her is that she is smart and can communicate that - not so with Palin.
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 03:05 PM
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36. Seems to Me
that SHE'S the one who made class an issue, not anybody else.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 10:29 AM
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29. Not really - look at the people who have run and how they are treated
1) Define class as being based only on the socio-economic stratum a candidate came from - and give extra points to families there for generations.

2) Observation (mine - I know there will be disagreement) on which candidate the media treated better IN THE ELECTION CYCLE.

1992 - Bill Clinton got far more positive coverage than GWHB. (remember how often we heard of GHWB vomiting in Asia?)

2000 - Bush was treated far better than he deserved, Gore far worse than deserved

2004 - Every part of Kerry's life was smeared, Bush was protected. In the Democratic primaries the candidate treated best by the media was Edwards.

2008 - No candidate was treated with more deference than John McCain - imagine if any Democrat had done anything like the Bomb Iran song. How many times did we see the made for TV puff biography about McCain as a POW (Kerry's 2 medals were more easily shown as heroic and we know how the media treated that) Palin initially was given incredibly good coverage - their "test" of her was defined as whether a woman, who was a communications major, could read a speech that someone wrote for her from a teleprompter well. Then there was stunned shock and praise when .. she did it!! Both HRC and Obama had periods of really good media and periods of bad media.

So, my summary -

Treated exceptionally well:
Bush 2000 - upper class
Bush 2004 - upper class
McCain 2008 - upper class (he is from a long tern Navy family)
Clinton 1992 - by birth likely the lowest class person who ran
Palin 2008 - middle class - I know this is not where she would place herself - but given all she did - they were very kind
Edwards 2004 - lower to middle class

Treated basically well most of the time -

Obama 2008 - middle class
HRC 2008 - middle class

Treated inexplicably badly -

Kerry 2004 - upper class (he was not rich, but he was a Forbes and a Winthrope)
Dean 2004 - upper class (Park Avenue - wall street)
Gore 2000 - upper class (Southern gentility)
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California Griz Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 02:19 AM
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25. Stick around Sarah
I want you running next election. What's her next act pissing on a picture of the Pope.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 10:51 AM
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31. Caroline would get the same treatment if she was also an insipid, vexatious, spurious, neocon moron.
Edited on Fri Jan-09-09 10:53 AM by HopeHoops
Edited for spelling
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 11:05 AM
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34. Does she not realize that she is only embarrassing herself by continuing
to whine and complain?

They were playing clips yesterday of this interview she gave and she came across as a vindictive, juvenile, petty, little snot making snide remarks about Katie Couric, Tina Fey, the media, the Mccain campaign and campaign staffers. She has no freaking clue that she is damaging herself more and more with her snotty whining like this. People might have a bit more respect for her if she studied up on the issues and then gave an interview where she intelligently discussed important issues of the day instead of doing a "oh woe is me" show again and again. Her victim shtick is getting real stale.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 04:26 PM
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40. Slosh for brains...
I'm going to repeat this every time a thread comes up talking about the Mind that Isn't.
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