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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 10:14 AM
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Iceland business minister resigns (banks and market collapsed)
Source: CNN

(CNN) -- Iceland's Minister of Business Affairs Bjorgvin Sigurdsson resigned Sunday, three months after the collapse of several of the country's leading banks and its stock market.

There have been regular protests in Iceland since the financial collapse, with about 6,000 to 7,000 people demonstrating in front of Parliament Saturday -- one of the biggest protests to date, a spokesman for the prime minister said.

Senior government ministers were meeting Sunday to discuss the future of the government as a whole, Urdur Gunnarsdottir, spokeswoman for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, told CNN.

He dismissed the head of the country's financial supervisory authority Saturday night before he left office, and requested the resignations of the entire board of the agency.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/01/25/iceland.resignation/index.html



Great JUST GREAT now we have to invade *this* near-failed state too (like Mexico)
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 10:21 AM
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1. How about defunding Israel and funding Iceland? n/t
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 11:36 AM
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4. Why?
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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 12:19 PM
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6. For one, it's a given that Iceland *won't* use the money to bomb brown people.
From what I saw of them when I was there, they're a pretty rational group of people. That's a good enough reason.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 12:48 PM
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7. Rational enough to turn their country into the essence of what went wrong in this cycle?
Oh yes. A whole country where the entire purpose of their economy was the movement of unregulated, easy capital. They are so deserving of a bailout.

Also, Israel's bombings have nothing to do with racism.
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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 05:25 PM
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13. Most Icelanders weren't in on the scam.
Like the investors who trusted Madoff, they trusted people like David Oddsson to do the right thing.

"A whole country where the entire purpose of their economy was the movement of unregulated, easy capital."

I was speaking about Iceland, not America. There is a lot more to Icelandic culture and Icelanders themselves than the Almighty Dollar.

"They are so deserving of a bailout."

They are far more deserving of a bailout than Citibank and Goldman Sachs. If the country got a bailout they would produce and build up the economy, not horde the wealth.

"Also, Israel's bombings have nothing to do with racism."

Yes they do. Do your homework on Israel's claim to the Gaza strip. Start by Googling "israel chosen people".
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:37 AM
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17. that's why israeli soldiers paint graffiti like "arabs must die"
because it's not about racism. How silly! They're the same people, they say so themselves.

I actually think it's primitive, barbaric, tribal warfare. Everlasting family feuding. Pathetic!
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 12:52 PM
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8. Because we OWN it, we took it in 1941 and it is OURS.
In 1941 the US Military took over Iceland. Previously it had been a possession of Denmark. Iceland Declared Independence in 1944, but till 2006 the US had a huge Air Base on the island.

More on Iceland Defense:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Iceland
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/keflavik.htm
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 12:58 PM
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9. Slightly more to it than that! Germany occupied Denmark.
With the colonizing nation occupied, the allies occupied Iceland to deny the Germans a submarine and aircraft base in the Atlantic.
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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 05:29 PM
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14. No, we don't frigging own Iceland any more than we own any other NATO country.
Military base == ownership is freeper logic.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:14 PM
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19. I was responding to the "Why" above
Iceland is a key to control of the Atlantic, we have to keep it safe and secure. Now the Red Navy is no longer a threat and the US have abandoned the Naval Air base in Iceland, but Iceland is still important to the defense of North America, and for that reason alone we need to help out Iceland. An economically healthy Iceland means a secure North Atlantic, something the US must also support.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 06:26 PM
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15. How about defunding all other nations
and funding our own, then nobody can say we are picking on them.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 10:46 AM
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2. there too?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 10:55 AM
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3. VIDEO of protests
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x263113

The freakin' ICELANDERS are taking to the streets!!! :scared:
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 11:37 AM
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5. Iceland is the most emblematic country in this disaster.
They made their bed by making the country essentially a great big hedge fund.
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Icelander Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 03:38 PM
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10. From Iceland.
First it was pretty polite

Then there is the fires , police brutality,the pepperspray and batons as well as teargas.
The primeminister cornered in his car by angry protesters.
The thousands of people on the streets banging pots, pans and drums.
The fact the the parliament couldnt convene this week because we surrounded the parliament.
We tore down the Huge Christmas Tree on the square and added to our fire , as well as all the available benches.
Local pubs and cafes were more than happy to supply us with fire material.

The result , we now have elections. One minister has resigned. The primeminister will not seek re-election.
The government literally has hours left .
We will not stop until everyone that bears responsibility has been fired or jailed.
We will not stop until we have a new constitution.
We are not going to vote for any party as the recent polls have shown.
We are going to change our country for the benefit of future generations.
Something big is going down here , we all feel it.
We are fearless.

Standing by an open fire in downtown Reykjavik , back to back with my fellow Icelanders , everybody drumming and making a racket is something I will never, ever forget . Now i know what it feels like to change the world. I have been playing my snare drum for the whole week , 12 -15 hours a day , i kid you not.

Coming to your country sooner then you might think.

Just remember . First they ignore you, then they ridicule you , then they beat you and then you win!



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B o d i Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 04:18 PM
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11. Paul Krugman, Nobel Prize winning economist, wrote (last March and April)
(Maybe you knew this already? Is this commonly known by those protesting?)

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/31/the-north-atlantic-conspiracy/
March 31, 2008, 10:03 am

The North Atlantic conspiracy

Is Iceland the victim of a financial conspiracy?


Such things really do happen. During the 1997-1998 financial crisis there was, almost certainly, a financial conspiracy against Hong Kong. According to the Hong Kong Monetary Authority, several major hedge funds engaged in a “double play”, shorting both the city-state’s stock market and its currency. The alleged plan was to put the HKMA in a double bind: it would be forced either to raise interest rates to defend the Hong Kong dollar — driving stocks down — or to devalue the currency. Either way the hedge funds thought they’d make a killing. They were, however, caught in a bear trap when the HKMA did the unexpected and bought up a large fraction of the HK stock market.

There was also, according to Australian officials I talked to at the time, a deliberate effort to drive down the Aussie dollar.

Now, Iceland is making similar allegations:

The cost to protect the bonds of Iceland’s three biggest lenders from default rose after central bank Governor David Oddsson said “unscrupulous dealers'’ are trying to break the country’s financial system.



Oddsson called for an international investigation into attempts to drive Iceland’s economy “to its knees,'’ in a speech on March 28. The central bank was forced to raise its benchmark rate to a record 15 percent last week to defend the krona after a 30 percent slump against the euro this year.



Attacks on the country’s Reykjavik-based banks “give off an unpleasant odor of unscrupulous dealers who have decided to make a last stab at breaking down the Icelandic financial system,'’ Oddsson said at the central bank’s annual meeting in Reykjavik. “They will not get away with it.'’

One interesting point: it appears that the Icelandic authorities particularly suspect Bear Stearns.

I’ll be keeping an eye on this.



http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/09/the-plot-against-iceland/

April 9, 2008

The plot against Iceland


On a gloomy North Atlantic evening in January, a group of international hedge fund managers gathered in the stylish bar of 101 Hotel in downtown Reykjavik at 8pm for a drink before dinner. They had been flown to Iceland by Bear Stearns, the US investment bank that two months later had to be rescued. Bear had organised the excursion to discuss the bizarre state of Iceland’s economy. What transpired at this dinner has entered into legend within Iceland’s close-knit financial community.

An executive who works with a big Icelandic bank recalls: “Upon entering the bar I was approached by one of the hedge fund managers. He informed me that all people in this party – except for him, of course – were shorting Iceland.” The executive says the fund manager described Iceland’s profit-making potential as the “second coming of Christ”.

“As dinner progressed – some people actually decided not to eat at all but just sit at the bar – and more drinks were downed, the conversation and questions started to get more hostile and short positions openly declared,” the executive says.

What started as an alcohol-fuelled evening has become a full-blown investigation by Iceland’s Financial Supervisory Authority into an alleged speculative attack by hedge funds on Iceland’s currency, banking system and stock market. Jonas Jonsson, director-general of Iceland’s FSA, says the authorities are “searching whether some parties have systematically been distributing negative and false rumours about the Icelandic banks and financial system in order to profit from it”.


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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 05:05 PM
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12. thanks for the on-the-spot report, please continue to post what's happening.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 06:36 PM
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16. Iceland minister quits; PM says government could go (Reuters)
25 Jan 2009 20:01:30 GMT
Source: Reuters

By Kim McLaughlin

REYKJAVIK, Jan 25 - ...

Prime Minister Geir Haarde .. said he would not seek re-election because he has cancer, and proposed an early parliamentary election on May 9.

His commerce minister, Bjorgvin Sigurdsson, 38, said he was resigning because of his role in the financial cave-in, which has prompted protesters to demand the government's immediate resignation ...

He said the chairman of the Financial Supervisory Authority and its director would also resign ...

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LP673434.htm
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icelandphotoblog Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 12:12 PM
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18. Government resigns!
Today the government of Iceland resigned!
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