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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:24 PM
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Judge in autism case injects insult to Sarah Palin
Source: NY Daily News

A federal judge got political Wednesday, taking a swipe at Sarah Palin while powwowing with lawyers in the case of an autistic boy whose parents are fighting a ban on big dogs at their luxury upper East Side building.

Manhattan Federal Judge Naomi Reice Buchwald blasted the Alaska governor and former vice presidential candidate for bringing her Down syndrome child on stage after a debate.

"That kid was used as a prop," Buchwald told lawyers during a hearing on Wednesday. "And that to me as a parent blew my mind."

Buchwald, a 62-year-old Democrat appointed by former President Bill Clinton, said Palin should have put her child to bed. Such conferences are often held behind closed doors, but Buchwald held yesterday's session in open court. "Tell me who told the reporter," Buchwald demanded after realizing her words were on the record.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/02/04/2009-02-04_judge_in_autism_case_injects_insult_to_s.html
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:27 PM
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1. Is the problem he was a baby or is it he was Down Syndrome?
Edited on Fri Feb-06-09 01:29 PM by Mass
The judge is not wrong that a baby has nothing to do in a debate scene, but does the fact he is Down Syndrome has anything to do with this, or does the reporter think she should have hide him?
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:29 PM
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2. both
nt
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:31 PM
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3. Why? She had her 7 year old daughter there. Is she had been the one with Down Syndrome.
would this have been a problem for you? If yes, why would it be more of a problem than it was for if she was not D.S.?

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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:36 PM
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6. I think if her 7 year old had
Down Syndrome she would have kept her away from the crowds. Due to embarrassment. Just like McCain kept his black daughter far away from himself and the campaign.
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TEmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:40 PM
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8. duh
Infants, particularly special needs ones need routine and consistently and a lot of attention from their primary caregivers. Hauling them onto stage, often in cold areas with snow suits, isn't the best for a child. I did have a problem with her bringing out the 7 year old, because the child didn't give informed consent to be used as a prop, trotted out for campaign purposes. That is not in the interest of the child, that's about what the parent/candidate, whether father or mother want. It's one thing for kids to come on stage for a brief moment to accept a nomination or after winning the presidency, like the Obamas, but Palin used her children as part of her message and then blamed the media when they covered things she didn't want covered.
ss
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:35 PM
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5. Two issues: no baby should have been used as a prop, especially
way past the bedtime of the baby. However, a Down's Syndrome child needs special care and is especially vulnerable (or so I read at the time). I doubt if anyone thinks Palin should have hid the baby.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:55 PM
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10. For your information, not all DS babies have health issues that requires special care.
http://familydoctor.org/online/famdocen/home/children/parents/special/birth/339.html

Which is why I asked the question. It seems to me that the DS aspect was overplayed in the article). This said, no baby should have been there during the debate, I do not disagree.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 03:02 PM
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15. What I had read in particular was that they tended to be more
susceptible to drafts, etc. the link you gave tends toward confirming that:

"Children who have Down syndrome may have colds, ear infections and sinus infections more often than other children."
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 03:15 PM
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18. LOL, not sure why people are so reluctant that the fact it is a baby is a problem
but, I will stop discussing that for me, it is clear the issue is that a baby has nothing to do on a stage, and the rest is secondary.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 03:10 PM
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17. And because he is an infant there is no way to tell if he has health issues or not
He could develop heart problems at any time.
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TEmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:31 PM
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4. smart judge
Pinhead did use her kids as props and then she whined that the press was covering them.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:38 PM
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7. We all saw that Palin used her children as props, especially the infant. But, why is the judge
talking about it during a court session? Believe me, I am still thanking God that Failin' Palin never got within a 72 year old heartbeat of the Oval Office, but the judge's remarks nonetheless seem inappropriate.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:59 PM
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11. I heard she thought no one heard her.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:38 PM
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13. "the judge's remarks nonetheless seem inappropriate." you got it . . .
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People wanna do the "hate Sarah" thing

let's stay within the boundaries of truth?

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:57 PM
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14. Oh, I think what the judge said was totally accurate. nt
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:46 PM
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9. Democrats in power all over the country should be doing this. Expose the GOP for what they are.
Ruin & ridicule them in the public mind and tarnish the brand beyond repair. In business. In social life. In government (esp the legislature). Make "republican" the dirty word it deserves to be. These people should be afraid to air their freakish views in public due the backlash. Instead people like Ann Coulter get more air time than Al Gore. Democrats have been tolerant of their psychotic political uncles in the GOP for far too long.
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:08 PM
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12. I have two healthy children and I would never take any infant to a loud, noisy venue late at night.
This is just irresponsible.
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TEmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 03:04 PM
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16. Exactly - it's should be a no brainer
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 03:27 PM
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19. That poor thing. She will now be BLASTED by the MIGHTY WURLITZER!
Harrassment. Hassles. Notoriety from the craziest, most virulent and zealous segment of society that aren't violent criminals. Hate mail and death threat from Freepers is what she's in store for.

Poor thing. Again I say that the Bushies ahve very much created sort of a cyber-Nazi force, and as we all know the Bushies pretty much had the Internet to themselves for the late 90s in terms of creating their very successful Goebbels v2.0 Gestalt-based propaganda.

The fascinating part is that they could not do it as it had been done before, because Hitler's and the German Bushies' excesses were too great and destroyed the brand name. So everything was created in a sort of non-violent parallel. In the end, the time-tested methods of zealotry, relentless intimidation, combined with the clueless cowardice of Democratic Leadership for 30 years in not opposing Bushiganda, paid off and now our nation is in many ways as clinically insane as the Germans in the 1930s.

Maybe Obama's clear Enlightenment Reason and Political Brilliance (I am not being facetious here) can overcome this well-entrenched Bushie Beast that is so closely patterned as kinder and gentler Nazis and now interwoven into everything.

Maybe. It's a lot to overcome, and watching it work on the stimulus package ONCE AGAIN is amazing to behold. Advertising to the FIFTIETH POWER. IT WORKS. IT ALWAYS WORKS!

Crazy. Technology and our human ingenuity combined with insatiable greed and desire.

Anyway, this judge is going to take a pretty severe blast and probably lose her post. A Bushie "judge", making some calumny against Obama or Clinton, would not even be caused more than a brief and minor media scandal.

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