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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 09:45 AM
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Defamation suit brought by man who made Obama YouTube video is dismissed (DU wins case)
Edited on Wed Feb-11-09 01:44 PM by Skinner
Source: Public Citizen

Public Citizen scored a victory today (2/10) when a federal judge dismissed a defamation suit brought by Minnesota resident Lawrence Sinclair against three people who criticized him anonymously on the Internet.

Public Citizen represents one of the three defendants and a blog that was subpoenaed to identify Public Citizen's client. The defamation suit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.

Last year, during the presidential primaries, Sinclair posted a YouTube video in which he made outrageous claims against Barack Obama, arising from a supposed encounter at a Chicago nightclub in 1999 with the then-Illinois state senator.

In dismissing the suit, Judge John D. Bates found Sinclair's case did not show enough merit to identify the anonymous critics, who had posted about Sinclair on DemocraticUnderground.com and Digg.com.

"The right to speak freely and openly on matters of public importance - and to choose to do so anonymously - is a cherished right in this country," said Paul Alan Levy, the Public Citizen attorney who handled the case. "Courts have consistently ruled that there must be a compelling reason to take away someone's right to speak out anonymously on the Web. This case was no exception."

http://www.citizen.org/litigation/briefs/IntFreeSpch/cases/articles.cfm?ID=14267#sinclair">READ documents related to the case.

Read more: http://www.citizen.org/pressroom/release.cfm?ID=2821



This case has been going on for about a year. Some of you may remember that Larry Sinclair had subpoenaed Democratic Underground to force us to disclose the identity of one of our members, mzmolly. We were determined to fight the subpoena, and were fortunate to receive free legal help from Paul Levy, an attorney at Public Citizen who specializes in Internet free-speech issues. (The press release is finally on the Public Citizen website. I have updated the link above.)

Skinner/David Allen
Democratic Underground Administrator
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 09:46 AM
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1. ---- ----
:thumbsup:
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 09:47 AM
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2. ~
:fistbump:
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 09:48 AM
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3. Congrats, Skinner! And thanks to Paul Levy! n/t
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 09:50 AM
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4. w00t!! score one for DU!
:woohoo: :applause: :woohoo:

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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 09:51 AM
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5. Woohoo!
:woohoo:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 09:54 AM
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6. More Reich-wing insane hypocrisy: You post something on the internet BECAUSE
almost anything CAN be posted on the internet - and - then you claim somekind of right to limit, according to your OWN criteria that YOU define, how people are to react to what you have posted? . . .

That's just like the crazy RW emailers who claim a right to send stuff to you but get all crazy irate if you reply.

People like that are either hopelessly stupid or insane.

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 06:19 PM
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134. IOW....
He posts bat-shit-crazy malarkey and then gets all bent outta shape when someone calls him on it.

Typical RW behavior.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 09:55 AM
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7. DU--- a force to be reckoned with!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 01:16 PM
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76. May I say thanks to Panader0
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #76
83. That's one great and effective post n/t
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poverlay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 09:55 AM
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8. Excellent... Yes.. excellent. n/t
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 09:57 AM
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9. wow i had forgotten that nut case
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:06 PM
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56. Good for DU!!
and now this slimeball might slink back under the rock he came out from under...or maybe not...
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #9
91. He is best forgotten.
Or - at least ignored.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 06:17 PM
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133. at least ignored.
But you can't ignore them when they insert themselves uninvited with "legal" foolishness. I hope he is not just dismissed but pays somehow for wasting the courts, and everybody's, valuable time.
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 09:58 AM
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10. Far out....................n/t
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:00 AM
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11. Yeah!!
:applause:
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:02 AM
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12. Locking, no link per LBN rules
:rofl:

:toast:
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:08 AM
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16. Ha ha ha, yer killin' me!
:fistbump:

funnee!!
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:23 AM
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51. Hm. Something wrong with the "lock" button, too
...dangit. :D
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:43 PM
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65. For a while, we had to delete references to He-who-must-not-be-named
But since it's Skinner posting, well...

Glad to hear the courts aren't total asses, Boss!
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 02:54 PM
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105. Link to original article here
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:41 PM
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115. dingbat.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:03 AM
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13. DU rocks!
(along with Skinner, Elad and EarlG)

:applause:

:yourock:
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the_chinuk Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:04 AM
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14. Democratic Underground Is the Universal Solvent ...
Of truth against lies, of good against not-so-good.

I've been following this website for more than 5 years now. I couldn't give up the DU habit if I tried.

This is good karma paying off. The universe likes DU.

With you working for us, how can anyone be agin' us?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 01:55 PM
Response to Reply #14
88. And, you finally joined..
Welcome aboard, chinuk!
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:07 AM
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15. WOOT! GO DU! nt
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:11 AM
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17. bravo....
i didn't even know there was a suit....
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:13 AM
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18. Thank You Mr. Paul Levy and Public Citizens. Keep on fighting the good fight
:fistbump: :applause: :headbang: :yourock: :headbang: :applause: :fistbump:
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:15 AM
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19. move over, ed schultz....
skinner's going to be getting a seat next to Helen...
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:15 AM
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20. Thanks for standing up for us all.
That's pretty cool.



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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 06:25 PM
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135. +1
Nice to know the boss'll go to the wall if he has to.
Skinner:
:yourock:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:15 AM
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21. Lawrence Sinclair - Don't be a douche. High School is so over. Get a life
Love
Xultar


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CabalPowered Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:17 AM
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22. Snippets from the 3 part smackdown
The Court need not resolve here the precise standard appropriate for determining whether
disclosure of anonymous Internet speakers is warranted.

First, it is obvious that, as presented, the Court has no subject-matter jurisdiction over
Sinclair's complaint. He has alleged only state-law causes of action, and jurisdiction rests on
diversity of citizenship.
...

Second, there is likewise no basis to believe that Sinclair can establish personal
jurisdiction over defendants; certainly the complaint pleads no ground for personal jurisdiction
in the District of Columbia.
...

Third, for several reasons, the Court questions the sufficiency of Sinclair's claims in this
case. Of course, just stating that someone is "spreading lies" or is a liar may not be actionable as
defamation.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:17 AM
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23. Woohoo!
:kick: and R!
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:18 AM
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24. Woohoo! But what I want to know is

what did the DUers say??? Must've been GOOD! :evilgrin:
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:18 AM
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25. That's fantastic, score one for the good guys!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:19 AM
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26. Suck on *that*, SINclair!
:applause: :bounce: :woohoo:

Recommended.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:20 AM
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27. Fantastic and congrats to all who made this possible!!!
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:22 AM
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28. Bravo to you, Public Citizen and mzmolly! nt
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:23 AM
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29. heh-heh.... 'dja getcher money's worth, Larry?
I hope he had to spend a LOT to bring the suit.

amusedly,
Bright
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:24 AM
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30. Cool!
:kick:
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:28 AM
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31. Thanks to all who helped secure a victory for free speech! nt
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:28 AM
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32. Congrats! And kudos to Ralph Nader for founding Public Citizen!
:applause:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Citizen

Founded in 1971 by Ralph Nader and Alan Morrison,<1><2> its activities span a diverse range of issues, including energy policy, trade policy, campaign finance reform and accountability, consumer protection, medical malpractice, and public health.

The organization represents consumer interests in the United States Congress, the executive branch and the courts, fighting for openness and democratic accountability in government; for the right of consumers to seek justice in the courts; for clean, safe and sustainable energy sources; for social and economic justice in trade policies; for strong health, safety and environmental protections; and for safe, effective and affordable prescription drugs and health care.

Nader resigned as president of Public Citizen in 1980.<3> The organization currently is headed by Joan Claybrook, who was head of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) during the Carter administration, 1977 to 1981.

<snip>

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CanSocDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #32
81. There ya go....good point!!(eom)
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:30 AM
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170. yes!! absolutely, kudos to Ralph Nader for Public Citizen!


thanks a lot for bringing up this point, Bananas.

many people on all ends of the political spectrum forget that Nader has a quite an admirable legacy, 2000 notwithstanding.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:29 AM
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33. DU 1, fascism 0
Nice work everybody! :toast:
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:31 AM
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34. Is the original thread archived? or was it removed? n/t
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:36 AM
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35. Now that is important for a lot of reasons...n/t
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:43 AM
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36. In my OPINION, Larry Sinclair is a LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE DUMBASS!
Hey Larry! I know you are probably reading this thread because it is obvious to me that you suffer a mental illness.

Why not join the discussion? It should be quite entertaining.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:48 AM
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37. Score one for the good guys....thanks to all who made it possible! : )
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:49 AM
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38. So...The Good Guys DO win Sometimes :)
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EleanorR Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:51 AM
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39. Excellent news!
Many thanks to Paul Levy for volunteering his time and to judge Bates for delivering a wonderful smackdown to sinclair. And of course a big hooray for Skinner and mzmolly for hanging in there and fighting this fight for all of us.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:57 AM
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40. Spines of Stainless Steel ! Congratulations to all.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:57 AM
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41. Congratulations
and well done. Make me feel better about posting.
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scytherius Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:03 AM
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42. Awesome! nt
nt
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:04 AM
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43. This is great!
:thumbsup:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:04 AM
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44. Now witness the firepower of this FULLY OPERATIONAL message board!
We are the most destructive force in the galaxy!
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:07 AM
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45. Cool. Assorted Europeans & Rest of World take careful note.
Without freedom of thought, investigation and speech we are all well seriously fucked screwn.

:raised fist: :hi:
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:13 AM
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46. This is wonderful! Thanks DU and Public Citizen!
:yourock:
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:14 AM
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47. Thank you for fighting this fight Skinner. n/t
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:14 AM
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48. Excellent
Nice to see the courts working.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:16 AM
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49. Wow - Just wow! Thanks!
Great news!

:bounce: :toast: :bounce: :toast: :bounce: :toast: :bounce:
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:20 AM
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50. You guys always seem to piss off the weirdest amongst us...
I didn't know too much about the guy, but some blogs reveal quite a bit about both him and their own biases. Found this excerpt on one blog (http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2008/08/political-prisoner-lawrence-sinclair.html) advertising dear Larry as a "political prisoner"...


"He was illegally detained like in a Turkish prison in DC, denied his medications like in a Russian gulag by US Marshals, lost in the system like in a Chinese prison in DC and has faced propaganda posted stories like a Nazi kangaroo court coming out of Delaware."

And this except is even better...

"The situation Mr. Sinclair has currently been placed in by the Democratic presidential ticket is they are forcing a disabled person with nerve damage to drive from Duluth, Minnesota to Delaware to be terrorized there in a court trial over a sealed indictment the Delaware Attorney General's Office will not respond to in direct violation of his Constitutional rights of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness...."


You guys always seem to piss off the weirdest amongst us... :rofl:
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 01:38 PM
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86. *chuckle*
In addition to the utterly psychotic "Lame Cherry", Sinclair is the darling boy of many of the remaining PUMAs and many of the "Birthers" citizenship conspiracy dingbats. They're going to take this as more evidence of the "conspiracy" against them..... *rolls eyes*
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:28 AM
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52. Fantastic news. Good for you, and good for us!
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:37 AM
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53. Very cool... Congratualtions & thanks to you
and Public Citizen for taking this fight on and to the judge for taking this stand.

:applause:
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:51 AM
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54. Congrats and well done!
And a huge THANK YOU to Skinner, Paul Levy and the whole DU crew for standing up for one of our own, mzmolly.

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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:55 AM
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55. Mother of my dog! Fine business, indeed!
Makes my day.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:18 PM
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57. DU: 1, Sinclair: 0
Talk about pot meet kettle. A person, and I use that word lightly, intends to defame and derail a Presidential candidate with completely unsubstantiated rumor and he files a lawsuit. I'll give Larry a C+ for Chutzpah at least.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:55 PM
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68. My thoughts exactly! The guy posts a scurrilous attack video on Obama and then
cries tears in a courtroom about how "mean people are picking on him"?!

C'mon, CONs. Doesn't your Bible say something about "as ye sow, so shall ye reap."

Get a clue.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:20 PM
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58. Congratulations to all!
Thank you Skinner for keeping us posted.

:applause:



Sonia
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:20 PM
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59. A classy set of lawyers you were up against:
Thereafter, in an Order issued on August 14, 2008, the Court denied Sinclair's motion seeking relief under 18 U.S.C. § 3771 against the Department of Justice and directed that the Clerk accept no further filings from Sinclair's then counsel, Montgomery Blair Sibley, who had been suspended from the practice of law.

https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2008cv0434-46
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:20 PM
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60. Hats off to you! nt
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:23 PM
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61. Fantastic! I'm now off to criticize as many You-Tube posters as possible!! NT
:rofl:
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caseycoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:28 PM
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62. K&R & YAY! n/t
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:37 PM
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63. I want to thank Skinner for his support in this matter. I can't tell you all what
Edited on Wed Feb-11-09 01:31 PM by mzmolly
a comfort it was to know that he was willing to fight to protect the membership at Democratic Underground.

:toast: to all involved.

At the risk of sounding narcissistic ... ;) I'd also like to mention some of the internet justice seekers who offered their own brand of support.

THANKS TO THE FOLLOWING ~

First a shout out to http://hbeeinc.com/blog/">Hbee who attempted to inform me via DU that something was up.

The people at http://themitchandnanshow.wordpress.com/">The Mitch and Nan Show, now http://theregulator.net/">The Regulator who kept me informed and laughing through the stress.

The folks at http://deathby1000papercuts.blogspot.com/">Death By 1000 Papercuts who, in spite of their Conservative Politics took in interest in truth.

Of course Mr. Paul Levy who is brilliant and gave 1000% IMHO.

To an unnamed attorney who offered help in the beginning in spite of perhaps, not being legally bound to do so.

And, to my special new friends KS and J who, if they read DU will know who they are.

To TrueDelphi for allowing me to quiz her in a bizarre state of paranoia. :pals:

To MaddiesMom and others here who offered support.

And, last but not least, to my friend Liz who took a keen interest in my dilemma and supported me with cyber hugs and humor through it all.

______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Sorry for the poorly worded mumbo jumbo but I've felt the need to openly say "thanks" to many people for quite sometime.

And, to clarify, in spite of any claims to the contrary, I am not, nor have I ever been paid to type a danged thing on the internet.


One last note ~ To the other defendants, whoever you are, I hope that you are at peace today.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 01:04 PM
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70. Hugs to you mzmolly.
What a scary situation to be in. I'm glad to hear that DU went to the mat to protect you. And won! I'll have to do a search to see what you said. It must have been a Duzy! :D Larry Sinclair is a hot mess.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 01:09 PM
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73. Thanks Starry Messenger.
I actually posted a Youtube video made by another person with a recap of the content. I was sued for passing along the claims of another party. Where the claims originated, who knows? But after observing scam artists in action for a while now, I have my suspicions. ;)

Sorry if that's cryptic but I have to be cautious going forward. *ehem*
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 01:18 PM
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80. No problem.
I'm glad it all worked out. I feel safer posting here now.
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hbee Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 01:15 PM
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75. Aaaaand Breathe
mzmolly - I'm thrilled that everything turned out the way it should have. Hope any stress this has caused you will dissipate quickly!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 01:24 PM
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82. So nice to see you here Hbee!
Edited on Wed Feb-11-09 01:24 PM by mzmolly
Thank you so much once again for your efforts. The stress is indeed moving on. In fact, I enjoyed a toast of bubbly last night in celebration of the ruling. I felt that this chapter was the last to close before I could fully celebrate our new President.

I hope you'll stick around these parts? I'm certain that the rest of DU would also enjoy your gift with words and your sense of humor.

:hi:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:25 PM
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111. Oops, I forgot to thank the Judge. Thank you Judge Bates!
Not that he's an avid reader of DU, but I would surely be remiss not to mention him.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 04:08 PM
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121. This is just insane and I am so glad for you that it is over
You posted his video and he sued you? Or am I confused?

It also never ceases to amaze me how stupid some people can be.

Anyhow, glad it's over and ended well! :hug:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 04:33 PM
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123. Thanks P2B.
I actually posted a counter video (produced by another defendant in the case) asserting that he was elsewhere during the original incident in question. The Judge ruled that the information posted was already on the internet, so essentially that's partly why there was not a sufficient case.

Hope that made a lick of sense?

:hi:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 06:04 PM
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132. Excellent mzmolly.
:thumbsup:
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demobot Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 07:15 PM
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145. Freedom of Speech
Edited on Wed Feb-11-09 07:16 PM by demobot
mzmolly...I am democratista from M&N and the Regulator. I made "friends" with Paul Levy a while back as I was incensed, annoyed, and just plain sad that this lawsuit was filed. I couldn't just sit and do nothing. I thought about you often and I am bursting with glee about this ruling. It was just chock full of smackdown. Long live free speech!!! (And thank you, Paul Levy)
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 07:52 PM
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153. Such a pleasure
Edited on Wed Feb-11-09 08:00 PM by mzmolly
to "meet" you democratista!

:hug:

You've always been a favorite contributor of mine on the Mitch and Nan show etc. :hi:

I hope you'll stick around DU so we can chat again?

"Long live free speech" indeed!
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demobot Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 08:18 PM
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158. Back at you
Thanks, mzmolly....

Yes...I'd like to stay. I'm getting a little tired of fighting the lunatic fringe out there. I'm getting quite caught up in listening to the Senate these days. Maybe I can rejoin the world and discuss actual issues.

Hugs to you. You are so close to my heart I can't tell you.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 08:50 PM
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161. Thank you
kindly. :)
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 07:44 PM
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149. Please check your PMs ASAP. nt
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 07:53 PM
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154. Thanks for the
heads up Finfan :hi:
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:02 AM
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171. Good Golly! mzmolly
Err, Congrats!

:toast:
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:37 PM
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64. Great news!
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:44 PM
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66. W00t!
Justice prevails!:fistbump:
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ElboRuum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:51 PM
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67. Huzzah!
Score one for common fricken' sense!
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:55 PM
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69. This is great news! Congrats, Skinner, Elad, EarlG and mzmolly!
Thanks for standing up for mzmolly and, by extension, all of us! A BIG thanks, as well, to Public Citizen and Paul Levy for taking this on!

Recommended.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 01:06 PM
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71. !!!
:party: :toast:
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 01:08 PM
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72. So who's this Larry Sinclair wack-job?
And what hole did he crawl out of?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 01:13 PM
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74. These are the most colorfully named defendants in a federal case since the last Mafia trial.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #74
79. We've been compared to
muppets.

I kind of like that comparison.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 01:32 PM
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84. Congrats on the win.
:thumbsup:

(Although I still want to call you molly ice pick.)
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 01:35 PM
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85. Oh my,
not sure how I earned that nick name but I hope I can smooth the "ice" ?

:hi: Thanks for the congrats.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 01:16 PM
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77. Larry Sinclair is an @ss.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 01:17 PM
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78. Is the thread archived? I'd like to see it if anyone has the link.
And congrats to MzMolly and Skinner!
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 02:15 PM
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93. As would I.
I'll bet that is one WILD thread! Whoop-de-do! This IS still a free country! Whoda thunk it?
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 04:50 PM
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125. Ironically
it got but one reply, two if you count my reply to said reply. Not wild in the least. :hi:
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:23 PM
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165. Well, wild or tame...
your ordeal has helped restore faith that we do indeed still live in a free country. Thank you mzmolly, and thank you DU administrators...Thank you one and all......WE ARE STILL AMERICANS!!!! Murikins live no more!

:patriot:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:58 PM
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167. Honestly,
I'm helpful in that I am an example of how NOT to word a post LOL. Remember the words "according to" going forward!

But, I am thankful in the end that free speech prevails. And, if my sloppy wording contributed to that, so be it.

:hi:

Thank you for your kind words Polmaven.
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 01:45 PM
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87. Where did this clown get the money to sue DU??
THAT is what I would like to know.
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 01:57 PM
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89. Congratulations and thanks to all!
:toast: :toast: :toast:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 01:58 PM
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90. Larry sounds like a real whack job..
I hope the FBI has him on their radar.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 02:37 PM
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97. He really does. Is it possible to defame someone like that?
I had no idea this was going on.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:19 PM
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109. Levy argued that
Edited on Wed Feb-11-09 03:37 PM by mzmolly
it was essentially not defamatory to claim that a person was NOT engaging in illegal, lascivious activity. The Judge appeared to agree. See page 7 of the ruling ~ http://www.citizen.org/documents/SinclairMemoOpp.pdf

"Indeed, the irony here is that defendants' alleged statements actually dispute whether Sinclair engaged in the criminal and disreputable acts that he has claimed, hardly the normal fare of a defamatory statement. The statement that Sinclair is a former mental patient, although perhaps defamatory, is most probably not actionable because mzmolly and OWNINGLIARS were simply summarizing and reporting information obtained from another content provider. See 47 U.S.C. § 230(c)(1)."
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:23 PM
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110.  His complaint was partly that you said he didn't commit crimes?
Public Citizen rocks and so did you all. lol :hi:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:30 PM
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114. Kind of.
I posted a Youtube video that someone else made with a recap of where he supposedly was at a given time. I'd rather not repeat the statement but I'll shoot you a PM.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 07:13 PM
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144. anonymous eyerolls from me
The old "I may be a low life criminal but i am no liar" defense?

Tell it to Judge Judy.

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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 02:13 PM
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92. Wonderful news!
Congratulations, Skinner!

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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 02:15 PM
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94. Thank you for fighting to keep ourselves private. That's very cool of you!
It's really important.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 02:25 PM
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95. If this jerk posted a youtube vid, doesn't that make him a pulbic figure?
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 02:40 PM
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99. The Judge ruled that he is a limited public figure.
And, this was a matter of contention to my understanding.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 02:33 PM
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96. I hope Larry asks his even loonier supporters for tons of dough
to help pay his legal bills.

One born every minute.

Congrats to mzmolly, and DU for sticking up for us, and a tip of the hat to Public Citizen.



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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 02:39 PM
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98. I'm glad this little attention whore got nowhere with his lies.
Hey Larry, get a life. Your stinking the place up did not wash.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 02:42 PM
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100. Well, it certainly makes me want to donate a few bucks to Public Citizen, How about you?
Edited on Wed Feb-11-09 03:05 PM by GreenTea
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 02:46 PM
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101. Indeed!
Though the ACLU refused to take the case on my behalf, so if you want to choose one or the other ... ;)
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 02:55 PM
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106. I sent donations to both....
Edited on Wed Feb-11-09 03:04 PM by GreenTea
The ACLU does such great work, caring & looking out for every-one's civil liberties that may be threatened or abused, the ACLU has done so for many, many years...

Also very happy there's been a comparatively new kid on the block, Public Citizen, supporting & looking after the Internet & free speech.

There's nothing the republicans want more than to control Internet content, just as the republicans own, control & dominate the media, (television & radio).
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:01 PM
Response to Reply #106
107. Of course.
My post was in jest. For the record, I'm a "card carrying member" of the ACLU. ;)
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 02:46 PM
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102. Done!
Edited on Wed Feb-11-09 02:53 PM by GreenTea


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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 02:47 PM
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103. ### SUPPORT DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND ###
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 02:48 PM
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104. that's great. is there a link to the original thread/post by mzmolly? n/t
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:10 PM
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108. Public Interest, not Civil LIberties? Either way, Congrats, mz Molly and the folks at DU are
American heroes.

I would state my opinion of Sinclair, but I don't want DU to get sued again.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:26 PM
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112. cool
I was unaware that Sinclair was suing DU to expose a member's identity. Larry sure likes to litigate. I hope he has to eat the court costs.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:28 PM
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113. Woohoo!
:woohoo:!
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:42 PM
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116. Man, that just improved my day
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:44 PM
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117. Never been happier to K&R! n/t
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:45 PM
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118. Congratulations, Skinner, and well done! Hanging on to our First Amendment has been a bumpy ride!
It ain't over till the last wingnut on the in the multi-media decides to spend more time with his or her family.

:applause:
:grouphug: (a DU Kumbayah)

Hekate


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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:53 PM
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119. I like how one of the court briefs spells DU's name wrong
DEMONcraticunderground.com

:rofl:
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GhostofRichardRorty Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:56 PM
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120. Huzzah!
Not only is this decision the right one, but the judge's opinion is very well argued. Kudos to all concerned!
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russ1943 Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 04:19 PM
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122. Nice work.
This is a great story.
I think it worth noting that we can be grateful a Judge at the District Court level recognizes the rule of law to deny/dismiss.
Who knows what the USSC and its current make up would have ruled? My guess is less fairly.
Also, Joan Claybrook has stepped down (as of the end of January) as president of Public Citizen. Dr. Sidney Wolfe is serving as acting president. No matter who is finally picked to replace Claybrook it is going to be tough to fill the shoes of giants like Nader and her.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 04:44 PM
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124. Cool!


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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 05:04 PM
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126. Thank you and congratulations
Once again Democracy wins.
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 05:11 PM
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127. Wow, I never even knew this was happening. Crazy!
And congratulations! I too would love to see the original "defamation".
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 05:36 PM
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128. Thanks for playing, Larry!
Buh-bye.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 05:38 PM
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129. Well this certainly deserves a Recanakick.
goodonya DU for being righteous.
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Tyler Generation Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 05:52 PM
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130. Anon is legion
nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 06:02 PM
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131. Fuck you Sinclair you rat bastard!
Edited on Wed Feb-11-09 06:03 PM by lonestarnot
:applause: :bounce: oh and neener neener neener!
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 07:47 PM
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151. You do bastard rats an injustice sir.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 06:29 PM
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136. K & R
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 06:30 PM
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137. EXCELLENT WORK, DU and SKINNER!
I am proud to belong to a group that will fight for my right to privacy. GO DU!

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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 06:43 PM
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138. an Historic win!!!!
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anneboleyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 06:46 PM
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139. Wow. Thanks to the attorney who donated his time and help for this case.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 06:51 PM
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140. I give my thanks to this attorney who worked, I'm sure tireless hours
getting this thing resolved...a great victory for DU and America
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 06:53 PM
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141. This attorney deserves big kudos here, please
some of them wouldn't waste their time on something of this nature, but this person went the full nine here IMHO
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 07:56 PM
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156. Absolutely. I highly recommend
him. :)
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 07:04 PM
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142. I love DU!!!!!!!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 07:07 PM
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143. K&R
:fistbump:
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 07:16 PM
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146. Score one for the good guys...yay! Congrats - K&R n/t
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 07:40 PM
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147. Congrats Skinner & Bravo Public Citizen!!
:yourock: :toast: :woohoo:

Much love for mzmolly :loveya:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 08:02 PM
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157. Awe thanks.
Right back atcha! :loveya: :pals:
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 07:42 PM
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148. Excellent! Love it!
Congrats to DU and mzmolly!
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 07:46 PM
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150. A job well done. Defending the constitution, from all foes. eom
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 07:50 PM
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152. Democratic Underground defended by an organization started by Ralph Nader -- how deliciously ironic!
(NT)
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 07:54 PM
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155. Not so sure Nader is at odds
with DU, but it is ironic that Nader helped me in a round about way.

I am grateful to him for his many good deeds. No comment on election 2000. ;)
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 08:20 PM
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159. Wow! Just Wow!
I'm speechless. Mzmolly - you have my heartfelt admiration. Same goes for the DU Administrators.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 08:50 PM
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162. I wish I deserved
it. But I thank you regardless. :hi:
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 08:21 PM
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160. Yea, DU!!
Congrats, Admins! It's a win for the whole country! :bounce:

And thank you so much, Paul Levy and Public Citizen! :patriot:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 08:54 PM
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163. A critial victory for the ENTIRE Internet -
This is consistent with past rulings and also has the wonderful quality of dismissing Sinclairs
fantasies, not to mention, affirming freedom right here and on Digg. Not a bad day's work.
Kudos to the lawyers and Judge.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 09:44 PM
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164. Damned conservatives and their frivilous lawsuits!
:evilgrin::yourock:


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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:47 PM
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166. Yes good decision Judge Bates.
Now can someone please Prosecute the idiot Sinclair for Libel against the President of the United States?
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:36 PM
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168. holy shit~!!! i had no idea. thank you, Skinner. nt
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:57 PM
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169. Congratulations. That must be an enormous relief.
Although I'm sure that you had few doubts that you'd come out on top against such an obviously deranged lunatic. :)
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:03 AM
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172. WOO-HOO!
:fistbump:
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:37 AM
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173. Too funny Opus & Anthony interview of Larry
OMG and there are two of them, they really have him on,
ask some awesome questions:

http://themitchandnanshow.wordpress.com/a-douche-interviewed-by-opie-and-anthony/
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:56 AM
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174. That's great!
One for the good side ;-)
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:53 AM
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175. As a member of DU, thank you. K&R
:hi: Molly.
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Sparky 1 Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 05:26 AM
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176. Thanks, Skinner, and Congratulations! Woohoo! n/p
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 08:07 AM
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177. Congrats Skinner and DU...
and thanks Mr. Levy!

:toast:
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 08:18 AM
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178. That's why I love DU. The people that run the site and the folks
that post support each other and will go to the wall for freedom.
:toast:
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 08:59 AM
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179. I'm so glad I checked
the greatest page today! This is great!
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