Terror suspect claims torture by way of sex: Fahmin Ansari says an FBI woman tortured him with sex

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Metro Boston News

Published 2009-02-12 04:04
Terror suspect claims torture by way of sex
Fahmin Ansari says an FBI woman tortured him with sex


An alleged terrorist captured in the aftermath of the Mumbai bombings is complaining of the worst kind of intense interrogation tactic: torture by sex.

According to a report The Times of India, Fahmin Ansari, a suspect in the Mumbai attacks that killed 173 people last November, claims he has been tortured by a female FBI agent who forced sex acts on him despite his devout Muslim faith, which forbids sex out of marriage. Because he was devoutly faithful, the sex acts performed by the woman were a form of torture, he alleged.

According to Ansari, the FBI agent stripped him of his clothes and tortured him all night long. Ansari claims the involvement of pornographic movies, and serious foreplay.

His lawyer, Ejaz Naqvi, filed legal papers in Mumbai court, alleging that the “white woman” and two other foreigners sexually abused him, leaving bruises on his private parts.

A Mumbai court ordered medical checks.

Ansari and five other suspects were arrested last year. Police say Ansari has confessed to doing reconnaissance for Lashkar-e-Taiba, the terrorist group that conducted the deadly attacks.

Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/4587941/Female-FBI-officer-tortured-Mumbai-terror-attacks-suspect-with-sex.html

[Judi Lynn]

1. Female FBI officer 'tortured Mumbai terror attacks suspect with sex'

Female FBI officer 'tortured Mumbai terror attacks suspect with sex'
A female FBI officer tortured a suspect in the Mumbai terrorist attacks by performing a sex act on him during interrogation, it has been claimed.

By Ben Leach
Last Updated: 10:29PM GMT 11 Feb 2009

Fahim Ansari is accused of helping to plan the attacks in which 173 people were killed in November.

His lawyer, Ejaz Naqvi, has filed legal papers with Mumbai magistrate's court, claiming the "white woman" removed all his clothes and showed him pornographic films.

In the papers, he claims that three foreigners, including the woman, sexually abused him, causing him "severe itching and wounds" on his body, including his genitals.

Mr Ansari, a devout Muslim, claims this amounts to torture because it is against his religion, The Sun newspaper has reported.

A court in the Indian city ordered medical checks on "wounds on his private parts and all over his body."

More:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/4587941/Female-FBI-officer-tortured-Mumbai-terror-attacks-suspect-with-sex.html

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

11. she needs to be Immediately arrested

pigs.

[Veritas_et_Aequitas]

2. I'm not sure what's more disturbing:

that our government might be using sex as a torture technique or that there's probably already porn about it in existence.

[Ian David]

18. You can borrow some of mine. n/t

[Veritas_et_Aequitas]

19. What? How could you suggest something like that?

...

I'll be at our usual spot in an hour. You bring the goods, I'll bring the "raspberry strudel".

[Ian David]

21. Agent Mike will come too. He's been very, very naughty this week. n/t

[Freddie Stubbs]

52. Rule #34

[MajorChode]

3. Maybe she wore braces

Then I could understand it.

[rcrush]

4. I saw Taxi To The Dark Side

Sex was just one of the things they tried. It was like a lab experiment on people. Different way to fuck with people and sometimes they'd just beat the shit out of them.

[Wizard777]

5. I don't know if I can buy into this one.

:nopity: I keep getting this overwhelming urge to stand up and yell TORTURE ME! PLEASE TORTURE ME! :rofl:

[Hell Hath No Fury]

8. Read my post below --

it has been used before.

[EFerrari]

12. They've been doing this for years. This is in no way the first report. n/t

[SpiralHawk]

27. Republicon Homelanders definitely got a kinky Family-Values thang with sex

as the record shows....

What would Jesus do about republicon homelander kinky sex torture?

[Hell Hath No Fury]

6. Something similar was used...

on a GITMO prisonmer, way back in the day. At first, many DUers called it hogwash, but much later news reports proved it to be true. :( IIRC, it involved a woman being sexual with the prisoner, and wiping mentrual blood on him.

Using a persons religious faith to torture them adds a whole other level of disgusting to the torture. :mad:


On edit:


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/28/60minutes/main691602.shtml

(CBS) The story that Sgt. Erik Saar, a soldier who spent three months in the interrogation rooms at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, tells Correspondent Scott Pelley paints a picture of bizarre, even sadistic, treatment of detainees in the American prison camp.

snip -

He told 60 Minutes about one interrogation in particular, in which he translated for a female interrogator who was trying to break a high-priority prisoner — a Saudi who had been in flight school in the United States.

"As she stood in front of him, she slowly started to unbutton her Army blouse. She had on underneath the Army blouse a tight brown Army T-shirt, touched her breasts, and said, 'Don't you like these big American breasts?'" says Saar. "She wanted to create a barrier between this detainee and his faith, and if she could somehow sexually entice him, he would feel unclean in an Islamic way, he would not be able to pray and go before his God and gain that strength, so the next day, maybe he would be able to start cooperating, start talking to her."

But the prisoner wasn’t talking, so Saar said the interrogator increased the pressure.

"She started to unbutton her pants and reached and put her hands in her pants and then started to circle around the detainee. And when she had her hands in her pants, apparently she used something to put what appeared to be menstrual blood on her hand, but in fact was ink," says Saar.

"When she circled around the detainee, she pulled out her hand, which was red, and said, 'I'm actually menstruating right now, and I'm touching you. Does that please your God? Does that please Allah?' And then he kind of got pent up and shied away from her, and she then took the ink and wiped it on his face, and said, 'How do you like that?'" Continued

[The Stranger]

9. The menstrual blood part isn't really sexual.

It seems to lend some credence.

But torture is probably never going to sound reasoned or usual.

By it's nature, it is cruel and unusual.

[Judi Lynn]

10. Putting any kind of blood on ANYONE, male or female, would be unforgivable.

I have never been able to overcome my horror that they ever dreamed of doing anything that horrendous. It's a violently ugly thing to do.

[Solly Mack]

13. and at Abu Ghraib detainees were forced to "simulate" masturbate

http://www.salon.com/news/abu_ghraib/2006/03/14/chapter_6/

and detainees were raped at Abu Ghraib

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001218842

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2005/07/25/abughraib/
"
And here's what Lindsey Graham, the Republican senator from South Carolina, said of the pictures after they were screened for members of Congress last year: "The American public needs to understand we're talking about rape and murder here. We're not just talking about giving people a humiliating experience... We're talking about rape and murder -- and some very serious charges."


and more on using sex on detainees at GTMO

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/28/national/28gitmo.html




Short memories are a danger to us all :(

[Patchuli]

32. I wonder why Lindsey never did diddly squat

to stop the torture...

[Solly Mack]

33. they didn't release all the pictures either

even after repeated orders from a judge to do so

Graham was too busy buying rugs...

[Patchuli]

34. No time like the present for the new management

to shine the light on the cockroaches of the old management! Thank heavens there's a new sheriff in town...

[EFerrari]

14. Sexual humiliation was also used (is also used?) in Iraq and in Afghanistan. n/t

[AlphaCentauri]

42. specially by some devout religious leaders against women and homosexuals n/t

[nebenaube]

7. as Cheech says...

ah gotta love some cartoons but I'm not going to say the line...

[BrightKnight]

15. Beaten to la petite mort - n/t

[progdonkey]

16. on what basis is she identified as an "FBI officer"?

Of course, I can imagine the interrogators having some prostitutes on the side for this purpose, especially considering he experienced "itching and burning on his genitals."

Calling them "FBI Officers/Agents," though, makes it sound so much less believable--and much more "porn-y."

Like, I can't imagine Special Agent Jane Doe saying, "I know how to get to him," or going back home and telling her husband "yeah, so I tortured a terrorist today with my vagina," or something weird like that.

[EFerrari]

22. Female soldiers were behaving in a similar manner at GTMO. n/t

[Ian David]

17. Where do I turn myself in? But seriously...

... actually, yeah, where do I turn myself in?

[provis99]

26. this torture might work if the females are extremely unattractive

If they have no sex appeal at all, then I can see how it could be torture. But if their sexually attractive, then I don't get it; that's not torture, that's temptation.

[Ian David]

28. I guess for some, temptation *is* torture. n/t

[nomorenomore08]

30. But consider that these guys are devout, even militant, Muslims.

Having premarital sex with a woman, or hell, probably even seeing a naked one who isn't their wife, is thought to make them "unclean," and for a person extremely devoted to their faith this can be very traumatic. It's a way of "breaking" the prisoner so that he feels his loyalty to Allah no longer matters.

[Old Codger]

38. Not too worried

If they are truly "devoutly religious" How can they justify killing people in wholesale amounts... they can stuff their religion up their collective asses. Not for torture but that is pushing the limits in my book.

[caseymoz]

40. If the purpose is to seduce him into talking, or make him feel abandoned by his God

Then it's torture. I doubt that it would work, though. Like the menstrual blood case above, it just pisses them off and makes them more misogynistic.

This one doesn't have the ring of being true, though. I think it's a tall tale.

[bertman]

20. Back when I was in the service I had some itching and burning on my genitals but it

wasn't due to torture exactly.

Pardon my lack of confidence in the accusation by a "devout" muslim who did recon for the Mumbai slaughterers that anyone could separate him any farther from his faith than he already had separated himself by participating in the slaughter of innocents.

[percussivemadness]

24. and this comment is the winner

[Wizard777]

25. AMEN!

[never cry wolf]

37. Exactly, and since when does the FBI operate overseas? n/t

[Raster]

31. Thank you! Devout Muslins DO NOT slaughter innocents.

It is STRICTLY forbidden in the Koran.

[PurityOfEssence]

35. A careful redefinition of "innocents" solves that pesky problem, doesn't it?

Religions are pleasantly pliable for the truly devoted. Kill away; it's for God.

[Raster]

36. I think my sig line states my position.

" Religions are pleasantly pliable for the truly devoted. Kill away; it's for God." True, dat.

[CLANG]

23. I've been pondering this news for some time

and I've had quite a few interesting or humorous thoughts come to mind. Thank FSM I have refrained from posting any of them.

[slackmaster]

29. I'm not buying it

:nuke:

[orfannkyl]

39. poor guy

what a poor bastard

[BadGimp]

41. where do I sign up?

I've been a very naughty boy, yes I have

[Blue_Tires]

43. i'm having trouble believing this story

i know deep down in our super-secret 'interrogation' manuals there are probably sick, depraved things beyond the realm of imagination, and i know our people have done things to suspects worse than this...but this story just seems over the top

[bottomtheweaver]

44. Right, because we don't REALLY torture and Gitmo is a country club!

Silly terrists, it's all in their heads! Except Mumbai was about as false as false flags get and this clown is somebody's intel STOOGE.

:mad:

[CJCRANE]

51. Coincidentally

Rudy Giuliani was in India four days before the attacks drumming up business for his security consultancy.

Kinda funny how terror attacks seem to follow him around.

[951-Riverside]

45. If its true I want to know more about this woman....

Assuming shes highly paid how could she ever lower herself to the level of having sex with a detainee and who gave the order?

What a bunch of sadists.

[TorchTheWitch]

49. exactly why I'm not buying it

Something tells me ordering a female agent to go have sex with a detainee or even just act like a stripper in front of him wouldn't go over well. Or do they handle situations like that by asking for volunteers? "Ooooh! Pick me! I'll ride him like a pony for my country! Me, me! Pick ME!"

pfffftttt...

[JI7]

46. Ansari confessed to doing reconnaissance for a terrorist group

so that's ok according to this islamic faith ?

[Brimon]

47. Binyam Mohamed's US military lawyer

An very interesting article from the BBC.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7885310.stm

This case,Binyam Mohamed's, will hopefully be the one that will break the dam.

[Judi Lynn]

48. Thank you for posting this article, Brimon. I hope those responsible will never feel forgiven

in their lifetimes, and never gain the escape of failing memory.

Very glad to have seen this.

Welcome to D.U. :hi:

[Brimon]

50. Thanks for the welcome Judi.

I don't post much but am a long time reader of DU.

[Freddie Stubbs]

53. If he were devoutly faithful to Islam, he would not be involved in terrorist attacks