Students claim they brought guns to school

[Shardik]

Source: UPI

SAN FRANCISCO, Feb. 14 (UPI) -- Nearly 900 middle and high school students in San Francisco claim they carried a gun to school last year.

Another 1,767 students said they brought a knife, a club or another type of weapon to school last year, the San Francisco Chronicle reported Saturday, noting the students were among 21,000 students who participated in a survey on safety.

"Every day there's got to be a gun on campus and we just don't know," said Guillermo Morales, principal of Thurgood Marshall Academic High School. "I would be very naive to say we don't have that problem here."

More than half of the 21,000 students who took the survey said they didn't feel teachers and staff kept them safe from bullying, verbal harassment and physical violence at school.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/02/14/Students_claim_they_brought_guns_to_school/UPI-78231234632724/

[Hoopla Phil]

1. I remember taking those silly surveys in middle and high school. At least

"we" at the time thought they were silly. And we answered them in silly ways. There are two that I still remember to this day:

Q: Do you, or have you ever smoked?
A: Yes, but only after sex.

Q: How much do you smoke?
A: About a pack a day and I'm getting very sore.



I seriously believe that those surveys are not worth the paper they are printed on.

[Shardik]

2. I remember similar questionaires from the past as well...

But even in the somewhat rural setting I live in, reports of kids either frightened or pissed getting caught with a gun or weapon in school is not that rare.

It's happening way too often all over the country in both metro and rural settings. I feel that it's a societal problem in which too many are looking toward violence as the first option in solving interpersonal problems.

It's not just guns here, but weapons in general that are finding their way into the classroom... The growth of violence in the classroom. I don't see any easy fix other than increasing the general population's welfare and the quality of care and education our children receive. Easy? I wish.

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

11. I still remember the grade 9 sex survey

naturally everybody in the class was a pregnant bisexual prostitute with multiple STD's and had performed a sex act for drugs in the last month.

[Mz Pip]

3. Like teenagers always tell the truth

about stuff like this. :eyes:

[Shardik]

6. As in the kids that were paranoid and said they "had never" for fear of getting caught?

Just wishing it isn't so doesn't make it that way.

[tinymontgomery]

14. Actually they don't

actually they don't, just ask their parents. Little Johnny and Susie are perfect, never lie and it's always the teachers fault. Even the administration personnel back this up, just attend a parent-teacher conference with an administrator, if it's a strong parent then the teacher is shit out of luck.

And before you ask, my son went to school where I work and we know he isn't perfect and we did support the teacher if they came to us about something.

[Peace_Sells]

4. I remember

I remember filling these out. Me and my friends wrote bullcrap answers because we thought it was funny.

[bhikkhu]

5. As a "control" they should also ask:

How many have shot heroin in class, how many hear voices, what kinds of things the voices tell them, how many believe in UFO's, how many have been visited by aliens, how many believe they are controlled by aliens, etc, etc.

Ask crap, get crap. If anything, if the survey is correct, it just goes to show that weapons at school are not the danger they thought.

[L0oniX]

7. I brought a gun to school for Show & Tell in 4th grade. It was a 150 year old Calvary pistol...

22 mag single shot octagon barrel with a cherry wood and brass handle. It was an officers pistol. I was allowed to show it but later told that I should have asked for my parents permission. Funny how things have changed in 50 years.

[Thothmes]

8. When I was in High School

almost all of the boys and many of the girls carried pocket knives. Nobody thought much about it at the time. Remember teachers asking if the could borrow my pocket knife for something they wanted to do

[jody]

10. Are you sure it was "22 mag single shot"? The .22 rimfire was introduced circa 1857. I don't see how

it could be a Calvary pistol.

One other fact, the .22 magnum was introduced by Winchester around 1959.

I hope you still have the pistol because at 150 years plus age it represents lots of memories for your family.

:hi: Have a peaceful evening.

[L0oniX]

15. I'm not sure it was a 22 mag but the bore was larger than a standard .22 and smaller than a 9mm.

[jody]

16. Looks like you have a family heirloom. Suggest you have it appraised, one never knows about the

value of such things.

Have a great day, :hi:

[proud2BlibKansan]

9. They surveyed us about drug use in high school

Our administrators and parents were shocked that several of us admitted trying heroin and selling ourselves as prostitutes to pay for it!

That was nearly 40 years ago. It was an all girls private school and I think maybe three of us had even smoked pot. And we still laugh about this at our reunions.

Teenagers lie. And they enjoy it. :)

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

12. How is that possible? It is illegal.

[Mr. Hyde]

13. Obviously not illegal enough.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

17. How do you make something more illegal?

[Mr. Hyde]

18. with legislation, how else? Look at Australia and Britain for example.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

19. They passed new law, they didn't make illegal things more illegal.

[Mr. Hyde]

20. They passed more aggressive laws. That was the point.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

21. Those more aggressive laws made things that had been legal, illegal.

That's not making illegal things more illegal.

David