Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

White House wants changes in exec pay rules

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:37 AM
Original message
White House wants changes in exec pay rules
Source: MSNBC

White House wants changes in exec pay rules
Will seek to change guidelines in stimulus package after it’s singed into law

WASHINGTON - Facing a stricter approach to limiting executive bonuses than it had favored, the Obama administration wants to revise that part of the stimulus package even after it becomes law, White House officials said Sunday.

While President Barack Obama plans to sign the $787 billion stimulus bill in Denver on Tuesday, his administration will seek changes in the government's approach to executive compensation, senior Obama adviser David Axelrod said in a television interview.

*snip*

"Mr. Gibbs may not like it, but it is going to be enforced," Rep. Barney Frank, chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, said on CBS. "This is not an option. This is not, frankly, the Bush administration, where they're going to issue a signing statement and refuse to enforce it. They will enforce it."

Sen. Richard Shelby, the ranking Republican on the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee, said the compensation provisions were necessary to protect taxpayer money. Of Gibbs' comments about the provisions and their enforcement, he told CBS, "It seemed to me that he was waffling a little bit."

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29223168/



*blink*

Is it upside down day? The Republican in this article sounds like the sensible one, and the administration officials sound lot like the last administration, trying to find ways to get around the law while signing it.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:52 AM
Response to Original message
1. I'm not following this as well as I should, I guess.......But
AP also wrote this as part of the article.....

The White House noted Sunday that the administration sought the strictest restrictions on executive pay, but wanted pay limited to $500,000 in cash, with the rest coming from restricted stock; Congress' bill doesn't have an absolute cash limit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:03 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. That last paragraph is pretty poorly worded. Explanation:
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 02:06 AM by Political Heretic
Here's my understanding..... someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I just want to get to the truth.


Basically, the original idea was that cash salaries for any new companies receiving TARP funds in the future would be limited to 500,000, however they could be further compensated in stock options, with no limit on value but only the provision that they could not be cashed out until the TARP funds were paid back.

This is how most CEOs are primarily compensated anyway. What they make in cash salary, while a lot, is nothing compared to their total compensation "package" of stock options.

The Stimulus bill changes some things. It makes the salary cap retroactive - meaning it would apply not only to new companies that take TARP money, but also to any company that every took TARP money. Further, Congresses bill doesn't have an "absolute cash limit" because it has an absolute limit on the TOTAL COMPENSATION PACKAGE a CEO can receive (stocks, assets, cash, etc.) So with the White house idea, a CEO could be compensated to the tune of 80 bazillion dollars, with 500,000 of that in cash salary and 79,500,xxx of it from stock options that simply couldn't be cashed out until after the TARP money was paid back.

Under congress' plan, the max a CEO could be compensated is 500,000. Flat. (or whatever the set number is) whether that was some combination of stocks and cash or not.

Not yelling at you, I just wanted to emphasize that part. I wish someone could back me up on my understanding of Dodd's amendment to confirm if I'm right about this or not.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:15 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. The total compensation limit is best.
Attempts to enforce this provision will be met by powerful and determined resistance by senior executives and their agents.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:52 AM
Response to Original message
4. The article is not written as clearly as it could or should be. But I love
MSNBC and Barney Frank: Where were the media and Congress when Bush was appending one signing statement after another?

P.S. Even if giving this law retroactive effect does not technically violate the ex post facto clause of the Constitution, laws with retroactive effect stink.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:41 AM
Response to Original message
5. Why the hell are we going to 'accomodate' and 'compensate' these
criminal bastards? What the fuck? So the Obama admin is going to pat these criminals on the back and give them a 'deferred' compensation with no limits?

I'd give 'em limits. I'd say that they limit for the least amount of time they would be incarcerated would be however long it takes to clean up their mess plus 20 years.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aikanae Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 08:00 AM
Response to Original message
6. NO WAY
Pay caps were one of the things that made this acceptable. Most people do not want to pay CEO's anything for bungling. They should be happy to have a job at all.

Idiots.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:36 AM
Response to Original message
7. This needs more dicussion unless we're just an echo chamber.
Opinions on what's up?

I can give mine, but I would be interested in what others think - how does this jive with your expectations for the administration?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:43 AM
Response to Original message
8. I still don't understand why it's not a proviso of receiving funds that
all senior management be fired prior to funds disbursement. Non-viable firms are created by non-viable managers.

So get rid of the incompetent bastards, please.

If not, an absolute compensation cap is great. I'd suggest $1 until all funds are paid back with interest.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 05:48 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC