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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:30 PM
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Army Rethinking Plan To Cut US Troops In Europe
Source: Associated Press

(02-17) 12:03 PST WASHINGTON, (AP) --

The U.S. Army is again reconsidering its plan for drawing down troops in Europe and thinking of leaving more troops there than earlier planned.

Gen. Carter Ham, the head of Army troops in Europe, said Tuesday that because U.S. troops in Europe have been used so much in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, they cannot participate in exercises with European allies as much as he'd like.

There are 42,000 soldiers in Europe, but a plan already approved by the military would reduce that number to 32,000 by 2012 or 3012.

Ham told a Pentagon news conference that he is recommending leaving the force at its current size, a recommendation that would have to be approved by superiors.

He said the force in Europe must be able to stay engaged and exercise with allies to build partnerships.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/02/17/national/w120324S71.DTL
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:35 PM
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1. by 2012 or 3012? I didn't realize we planned that far ahead.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:58 PM
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2. Have to keep the empire fully garrisoned I guess
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:59 PM
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3. Fits in with reducing military construction dollars
Won't have to build new state-side facilities if they stay in existing European bases.

Wonder when the other shoe will drop on the BRAC process? If the Sep 2011 deadline is stretched, military construction could be spread thinner still.
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Lost in CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 10:21 AM
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16. Strangely that makes perfect sense.
Really good point.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:15 PM
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4. Keep them there. Their deployment preserves democracy here.
Freedom isn't free!
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:40 PM
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6. You're kidding right?
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:41 PM
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8. Of course not.
Every time a soldier comes home, a little angel in heaven dies.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:43 PM
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9. I think more likely a family is made whole again.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:44 PM
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11. Except for the angel's family...
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 04:45 PM by Oregone
and their cute fuzzy kitten that also shuffles off the mortal coil

Only more troops in Eastern block nations can possibly prevent this.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:46 PM
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12. The Angels will get over it
and God always makes more kitties.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:29 PM
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5. Most other Nations keep the majority of their military at home - If the USA did that
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maybe so many nations wouldn't hate the USA???


just a silly Canuk thought . . .

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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:41 PM
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7. Your brains too cold from the Great White North
Don't you know that War is Peace.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:43 PM
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10. I love it when I spot Canuck military vehicles...
Every now and then I see then going to and fro in town...their crappy primer paint jobs and retro look makes me smile (in a good way).
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:05 PM
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15. I see A LOT of them around here - plus their helicopters and jets
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I live half way between Petawawa, an Armed Forces Base, and North Bay - North Bay is NORAD - used to have nukes there - silos are still there - empty(of course)

helos go right over my back yard - even seen a few prop cargo planes flying only a couple of hundred feet up - this is a training area

Ottawa valley - a great place for pilots to train low flight

but NOISY - - -

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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:57 PM
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13. When did the military become the 4th and most powerful branch?
Isn't this the kind of decision that needs to be hammered out between the WH and Congress?

Seems the MIC is getting too big for their britches.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:35 PM
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14. Our economy
Bring the troops home,let them spend their money here and help our economy.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 10:22 AM
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17. Rome... nt
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