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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 08:20 PM
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Jindal rejects unemployment money in stimulus
Source: Associated Press

BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) - Gov. Bobby Jindal says he doesn't want Louisiana to tap into $98 million in stimulus money for expanding unemployment benefits for people who wouldn't normally be eligible to receive them.

The federal stimulus package would cover the benefits for a period of time, but the Jindal administration says it requires a permanent change in state law that would force businesses to pay higher taxes once the federal dollars run out.

Jindal said Friday that he doesn't support that change, which is tied to $32.8 million in stimulus cash. Without that change, the state also can't access a separate $65.6 million pool of unemployment money in the stimulus bill.

via Think Progress

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/20/jindal-unemployed/

Read more: http://www.wxvt.com/Global/story.asp?S=9880180&nav=menu1344_2
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 08:23 PM
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1. OMFG! I can't believe he is denying his citizens unemployment help out of spite!
Jesus Christ - will LA take this lying down???
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 08:26 PM
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4. I can, and not suprised

It seems to be part of the human condition, people have to experience suffering, some more then others, to learn anything. Some don't ever learn a thing. Hopefully, enough people learn enough not to elect these wackos anymore.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 08:23 PM
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2. When's he up for re-election, anyway? nt
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 09:58 PM
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22. 2011, probably
As I remember seeing his awful ads in Texarkana during my brief stay there.

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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 08:24 PM
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3. That's going to make an AWESOME attack ad when he runs his pathetic Presidential campaign in 2012.
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 08:26 PM
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5. I'm certain the state legislature has more sense than this ideologue
and will put in a request itself.
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liberal renegade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 08:28 PM
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6. Douchebag!
I love watching the repukes self destruct.....
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 08:29 PM
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7. Isns't there an impeachment process in LA? This sure should qualify if there is. rec'd
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 08:29 PM
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8. Landrieu and other LA Dems better slam him HARD.
Edited on Fri Feb-20-09 08:29 PM by Tatiana
Heckuva job, Jindal. Way to screw over the people in your state that have already been screwed over.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 08:31 PM
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9. So this is the new "star" of the Republican Party?
He's creepy and repulsive. Figures.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 08:36 PM
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10. I think it's GREAT! It shows what a heartless creep he is, even to stupid people.
Edited on Fri Feb-20-09 09:13 PM by Captain Hilts
RIP Socks.


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mr1956 Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 08:39 PM
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11. AP doing their usual bang-up job
If you read only the AP release, Jindal's move sounds like a reasonable concern. But on closer inspection Think Progress could find no reason why Jindal is saying accepting the money would increase taxes on businesses. The program can be phased out after 3 years, it gives the people needed respite for a limited time and is funded by the federal government.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 11:03 PM
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29. Perhaps this.
The link from the ThinkProgress page seems to say that in many states part-time employees don't qualify for unemployment. If so, perhaps employers don't pay unemployment tax for them.

To put them in the unemployment pool and make them eligible might require that employers cover them, i.e., pay unemployment tax for them.

I could probably find more possibilities. Then again, I'm not trying to be ThinkProgress and say that I know more about another state than the governor or, presumably, his staff. Just trying to find ways that a statement is plausibly true. That way I might learn something.
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 08:41 PM
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12. He's full of shit
I read yesterday that if a Gov. does not want stimulus money he cannot stop getting it anyway. The legislature would have to stop it. If the Gov. and the legislature can both stop it it could happen.

The point is he can say whatever he wants for politics knowing that he'll damn well get the money anyway. All politics, all the time for the Repukes.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 08:38 AM
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37. And the legislature will have to change the law
If what he says is true, it seems reasonable but I don't know for sure, then it's in the legislature's hands to change the law to accomodate the permutations of the bill.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 08:49 PM
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13. Meanwhile... in 2012... the cries can be heard down the long
driveway "Run Bobby run!!!"

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FreeCajun Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 08:54 PM
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14. Take it from a native, he just bought himself a bunch of LA votes.
Edited on Fri Feb-20-09 08:56 PM by FreeCajun
The people here eat this crap up, unfortunately.

What's particularly galling is the fact that he blames spending increases on Democrats, even though he's presided over the biggest budget increases in state government pay increases ....
mind you, not for low level functionaries who could use the money, but for pay raises for himself & his buddies.

Just like Bush, actually....

Even some of the local conservative radio talk show hosts hate him, and call him "Big Government Bobby" and "Campaigning Jindal" because it's pretty clear he's positioning himself for a presidential bid and doesn't care about Louisiana.

It'd be funny except its real, and its happening where I live.


:on edit:
He may not run in 2012, if Obama seems popular... he's smart enough to play his hand close to the chest until 2016.
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Ferretherder Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 09:12 PM
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Yeah, some great Guv we got, you bet!
Oh well, whadda ya' expect - after all, we ARE talkin' LOUISIANA politics here, ain't we?

And by the way, Hi to ya', FreeCajun!...from a Yankee way up here in the north part a' tha' state - Monroe, to be exact!

Gone' be Crawdad season 'fore long, huh, cha?


...and forgive my HORRIBLE 'cajunese'.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 09:00 PM
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15. He's gonna Exorcise
All his states problems and drive the evil spirits out.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 09:06 PM
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16. let them eat cake! nt
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 09:12 PM
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17. What complete and total assholes these republicans are.
I hope that their constituents remember every single one of these party hacks when elections come around. It's the same damn players in the GOP Haley Barbour, Jindal, etc, how can they even show their faces? They should be disgraced.
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Renaissance Man Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 09:21 PM
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18. This is utter bullshit.
Edited on Fri Feb-20-09 09:34 PM by Renaissance Man
"The Jindal administration says it requires a permanent change in state law that would force businesses to pay higher taxes once the federal dollars run out."

Right, an increase of $12 million spread throughout all Louisiana businesses would just burden them with high taxes? I guess that's just gonna bankrupt the state, eh Bobby? Shit on the people who are unemployed due to your political party being responsible for placing the economy in the crapper, and then reject the money that would help them until economic times get better.

Fuck. You. Jindal.
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Snarkoleptic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 09:28 PM
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19. He'd rather fuck over his constituents than anger Limbaugh.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 09:32 PM
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20. Also being hashed out in GD
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5100860&mesg_id=5100860

complete with bonus Jindal trivia, plus a flamefest related to, of all things, his name. :eyes:
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 09:33 PM
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21. The state legislature can take the money. He will be paid $$$ from the bailout funneled through bank
executives who will give parts of their bonuses to GOP politicians across the country---and more money to friends and family members who will also donate the maximum amount to GOPers.

Imagine how far an extra $1million per executive could go? Each bank exec. can hand out $2000 to 50 politicians himself and also give away $900,000 to other people who will do the same. That means that 50 Republican candidates will get $20,000 for every $1 million in bank exec bonuses that we the tax payers paid for with our bailout that did not go to free up credit.

Plus the banks will write "loans" to companies and rich folks so that they can distribute cash to be used for contributions.

Meanwhile, working class people will be so cash strapped, they will have no money to donate.

I predict that at least $10 billion of the bank bailout will go right back into the GOP coffers for the 2010 elections. This is why the Republicans are willing to act like asses. Cold hard cash from Morgan Chase---Hitler's Banks and the others.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 10:12 PM
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23. This will be used against him in 2012
When he wants to run for the GOP candidacy for President it can be said that he turned his back on the citizens of Louisiana. He would do the same for the people of the United States.

What a stupid fucker, trying to play politics at a time when the bottom has fallen out.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 10:16 PM
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24. First thing I thought of, as well. n/t
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 10:39 PM
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25. I wonder what record he is going to campaign on for his next electxion run?
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 10:41 PM
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26. heh... well, good for him
I can respect that.
Now he should face the wrath of his constituents.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 10:41 PM
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27. He's very ambitious and is paying his GOP party dues, looking to nomination in 4 yrs
Any semblance of actually giving a damn about his constituents is illusory.
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 10:55 PM
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28. Does Louisiana have a procedure for recalling its governor? nt
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scytherius Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 11:17 PM
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30. So TYPICALLY Republican. Summed up as "fuck mankind" n/t
nt
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 11:33 PM
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31. i'm disgusted this asshole ever became Governor in the first place
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 11:39 PM
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32. fuck you PIYUSH
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 11:59 PM
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33. Typical Repuke shithead
Putting pandering to the Scroogetariat before doing for the people he swore an oath to serve.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 03:35 AM
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34. He's just another Republican clown, who could are less about citizens
Take the damn money, dude, it's for your citizens. But nooo, not him. He's positioning for the 2012 nomination
on the backs of the unemployed of Louisiana.

The guy is a complete fool and a nasty piece of work.

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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 06:18 AM
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35. Jindal is a fucking joke...
how did that clown get elected anyway?!
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 08:32 AM
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36. Unverified Computer Voting Machines....
....ring any bells? :nopity:
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 07:00 PM
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41. Oh yeeeaaaahhhh,,,I forgot about that..
Repuke strategy: If lying fails, steal it..nt
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MedfordTim Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 12:51 PM
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38. Since no one else has mentioned this...
A point in all this which is very important yet overlooked is that no matter if Jindal or any other Governor could and did refuse the money, the people in their state would still be responsible for paying it back.

Do they think their citizens could exempt a portion of their federal taxes because they didn't receive their "portion?" How are their citizens going to react when they figure out they paid for the band but aren't doing any of the dancing due to a grandstand play by their head of state?

Why isn't anyone talking about this?
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 01:06 PM
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39. Oooohhhh, looks like Jindal won't win re-election
:D


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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 02:01 PM
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40. ..and thus ended Piyush's Presidential bid before it got off the ground...
Edited on Sat Feb-21-09 02:02 PM by truebrit71
...the Dems would need run only ONE ad for the entire campaign..."Piyush Jindal put his own political ambitions above the dire need of his fellow citizens, what would he do in the White House?"

Game over for "Bobby"....
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 08:05 PM
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42. Buh Bye Bobby!!!!
Don't let the door smack you in the ass on the way out.
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shannonmerklan Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 08:38 PM
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43. Jindal=hypocrite
Jindal joins the chorus of Republicans who opposed the stimulus but who will take part of it, especially if it's the part that benefits the wealthy in their states. Poor and the middle class be damned
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