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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:12 PM
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Credibility issue puts GOP plans in jeopardy - Copley News Service
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GOP campaign operatives are warily eyeing recent polls that for the first time show many Americans don't see the president as truthful.

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Perhaps most troubling to a president who prides himself on being forthright, the most frequently used negative word to describe Bush was "liar" – a word that never showed up in the May survey, Kohut said.

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Looking back on the tactics used in Bush's previous run for the White House, that has almost always been the first move against an opponent showing any strength. When Arizona Sen. John McCain won the New Hampshire primary in 2000, Bush adopted the catchphrase, "John McCain says one thing and does another." Later, in the general campaign, then-Vice President Al Gore got the same treatment.

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Pollster John Zogby said: "People are finding it difficult to believe him on WMD. Americans were sent into Iraq on a false premise by a president for whom Americans had high expectations . . . on those basic kinds of values like integrity. So there is a sense out there that those expectations have been dashed."

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Carl Cavalli, an expert on the presidency who teaches at North Georgia College, said Bush's troubles are particularly ironic "because in 2000, it was George Bush's honesty that won over Al Gore's credibility. And now we see it is the president's credibility at stake.

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Find this article at:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/sun/news/news_1n22bush.html

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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:14 PM
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1. What?! The GOP and bush are liars?
What took so long for people to catch on?
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:15 PM
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2. Yes, the people had high expectations for Bush's integrity...
and it was entirely manufactured by RW rags like the San Diego Union Tribune.
His record for a complete lack of integrity was readily available and it was appalling. Our RW media ignored it.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:18 PM
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3. you are correct, leesa
if the media had told the truth about Dubya from the start, no WAY would he have been able to steal the election.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 02:30 PM
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4. "If you once forfeit the confidence of your fellow citizens . . .
you can never regain their respect and esteem. You may fool all of the people some of the time; you can even fool some of the people all the time; but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."     
   
 -  Mr. Abraham Lincoln, American statesman, 1809-1865
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 02:34 PM
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5. And the curtain
gets pulled back a little further.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 02:40 PM
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6. Classic projection tactics
look for whatever the Bushites call the opposition and know that it is a projection of their own values/ actions.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 02:43 PM
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7. just like that "revisionist history" crap in his first attempt to defend
the Iraq invasion.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 02:48 PM
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8. How Dare You, Suh!
Liars??? Liars???

You know the focus on LYING tends to give people a depressing view of those who don't tell the truth.

http://www.wgoeshome.com

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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 03:10 PM
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9. Chickens are coming home to roost
I love seeing his presidency start to unravel like this. i only wish the process would speed up. Its just a matter of time.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 03:14 PM
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10. Repug apologists are running out "war was 'misrepresented' but right"
as if "misrepresentation" is somehow different than old fashioned lying. Won't fly, but they're banking on some distance with the line.

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 10:04 PM
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24. I'm sure that will go over well with the military.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 03:25 PM
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11. Gee, I trotted out our latest internet ad
just in time :)



http://www.takebackthemedia.com/100lies.html

Watch it and pass it around
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dand Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 04:33 PM
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12. Fantastic ad
sent it to all my friends
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T Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:24 PM
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15. sorry I have tried twice to see that ad and it just goes on the clock
and won't load for me...blank page

:-(
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:55 PM
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13. According to Karl Rove,
Honesty and sincerity are the most important qualities in a politician. Once you learn to fake them, you have it made.
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wabeewoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:18 PM
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14. John McCain says one thing and does another
They aren't very orginal are they? That is the EXACT line I saw used against John Kerry in today's paper. HAHAHAHA What is even funnier is there is nothing that they can say against the democrats that doesn't make any reasonably intelligent listener go "ummm, what about bush??" like trying to label Kerry as for special interests(which may be true but bush wrote the book on special interests). Nobody is worse than bush on most things. No creditability, same old worn out lines...This could be a fun election year.
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TheWhitneyBrown Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 11:05 PM
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18. When the anti-Kerry Ads come out
And they look exactly like the anti-McCain ads, someone should do an ad attacking them for flip-flopping.
"Today you hate McCain, tomorrow you hate Kerry, well, which is it, Mr. President?"
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 08:57 PM
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22. bah ha ha hah
i like. i say just turn all his stuff back over his way in such laughter and fun adn the american people will suck it up. we could use a good laugh.........insttead of being so very serious, like the last three years of serious
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:27 PM
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16. Its about time
I guess it really is true that you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Now what we have to work on is to make that number of people who are still fooled smaller.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 09:43 PM
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23. That might make a good ad. Turn his "fool me once" gaffe back
around at him. Maybe an animated flag or statue of liberty making the statement. Something that symbolizes the public, or at least the public that voted for him the last time out.
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rfkrocks Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:40 PM
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17. Credibility and Gop-Oxymoron (sorry Rushbo-no pun intended)
The GOP bosses were always unable and unwilling to fight our party on ideas. All they have is an illusion of a "leader". BTW it was the Right wing Supreme Court that won the election over Gore.
If all you have is disdain for the people, disdain for history and other countries and fundamental financial irresponsibility as an economic plan it is no suprise that credibilty starts to fade. You start a war based upon lie after lie and wonder why you are not believable? Speaking of credibility-landing on an aircraft carrier dressed up as a pretend warrior placed in context of kerry,Cleland and mccain's service tends to prove your credibility is a similar illusion-like racing stirrups on a lame horse
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 06:57 PM
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19. Hi rfkrocks!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 07:12 PM
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20. oh if people would only read this sentence and understand
exactly what it says:

said Bush's troubles are particularly ironic "because in 2000, it was George Bush's honesty that won over Al Gore's credibility. And now we see it is the president's credibility at stake.

You see - it was Bush's lies about his honesty that were the heart and soul of his entire junta takeover of our WH.

Gore was not a liar - but the lies became the truth - our world is upside down and god/dess only knows how we are ever it put it back and move forward.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 08:01 PM
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21. I can't imagine why Bush's credibilty is questioned.
Everyone except Bush himself knows where he was during his Alabama National Guard service which has resulted in 2,500,000 million new jobs being created and the Bush administration did not reveal the identity of a CIA operative but the White House is cooperating with the 9/11 commission since democrats support terrorism and are not good Americans just as the Jews were not good Germans and government spending has gone down if you do not count the increased government spending but the boxes were labeled "Made in USA" even though the $400 billion decorative medicare turkey was not labeled $525 billion and Bush's plane to Baghdad was spotted because before Saddam bought the uranium and became an urgent but not imminent threat Bush had no plans on his desk to invade Iraq since the aircraft carrier was too far offshore for the Navy to make a large enough banner to describe the WMD we have found in Iraq some of which could hit the US and some of which Saddam was giving to Osama for following Saddam's plans and using Iraqi hijackers on 9/11 but everyone got a tax cut which created 3,000,000 new jobs and allowed Iraqi oil revenue to pay for the cost of the reconstruction of Iraq after the invasion by a small number of troops who would be greeted with floral program related activities because Bush and Rice did not ignore the August 6, 2001 intelligence briefing warning of the upcoming 9/11 attacks and that is why Bush who is responsible for good economic numbers but not bad economic numbers wrote the poem that he did not write blaming Laura for dropping the dog.

There is no subject so serious, somber, or shallow that Bush will not lie about it. The only other option is not to lie which Bush can not do.




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