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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:33 PM Original message |
Venezuela military 'seizes ports' |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. This is a good idea. I'm glad to see the ports under federal control. n/t |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Why? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. In addition to all the practical reasons for securing the food supply |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. So Obama represents the same threat that Bush and Cheney did? Interesting nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. The interests Bush fronted for don't leave office. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. So we should oppose Obama like we did Bush? nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. What does opposing Obama have to do with this thread about Venezuelan ports? |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. You introduced the threat that America represents to Venezuela, not me. nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Yes, I did. You may recall that we tried to kill the guy. |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #23 |
190. Don't be simplistic. |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 07:26 AM Response to Reply #190 |
200. Exactly. |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #200 |
208. I just wonder what it would be like |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:52 PM Response to Reply #18 |
78. As long as Obama is continuing the policy supporting.... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 10:05 AM Response to Reply #18 |
132. Only when and if Obama cheerleads for imperial bullying n/t |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. As long as Obama buys into the neoliberalism of the Clintonite faction, then yes. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. Progressive leaders in Latin America have never, to my knowledge |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. It's very exciting. Sorta gives a person hope that eventually the People can win out. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
44. You Didn't Really Think |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. He could have not even mentioned Chavez. I'll bet you that most Americans are quite unaware |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. He did say that Chavez censored the media (false), that he |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Right. In other words, Obama deliberately repeated neocon propaganda. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:43 PM Response to Reply #57 |
72. I'm hoping this is just more "neglect" and that it gets better from here. |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 07:33 AM Response to Reply #57 |
201. Plus, now he's repeating the neocon lines about Cuba. |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. Certainly you have much better information than Obama has |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:27 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. I at very least have resources that he certainly has available. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #65 |
188. Putin, is that you? |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
104. well, yet another lie. Chavez supported the FARC and I posted a video him stating as much |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 04:34 AM Response to Reply #16 |
123. lol. but Obama's "badmouthing" of Chavez is nothing compared |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #123 |
141. Is Venzuela funding opposition groups in the U.S.? Does Chavez threaten military action against the |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #141 |
154. Completely odd, isn't it, to focus on comments made by a man who was violently kidnapped |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #154 |
162. Very little surprises me anymore when it comes to discussions about Chavez. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #162 |
163. A great DU'er, rabs, has pointed out that their reaction to Chavez sounds like |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 06:57 AM Response to Reply #141 |
210. And, as EFerrari points out, its no problemo when Obama supports the terrorist CANF agenda. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #210 |
213. How could any national politician support a group which engages in acts of terrorism, anyway? |
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kwenu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:50 PM Original message |
Is there a threat to the food supply? |
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Mr Rabble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
111. Your premise is incorrect. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Quite right - so am I |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. The writing is quite hostile, isn't it? |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Yes I noticed that |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Yeah, and "rubber stamped". No bias there. |
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Swagman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
53. outrageous use of "rubber stamped" by the BBC ! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Exactly. It's one thing to loathe Chavez. It's another entirely |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
82. since Chavez's party controls all 167 seats of their |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:20 PM Response to Reply #82 |
91. You mean the representatives elected by the people of Venezuela? |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:26 PM Response to Reply #91 |
97. the opposition boycotted the elections |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 10:11 AM Response to Reply #97 |
133. That's their fault. Anyone can be a candidate n/t |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 08:46 AM Response to Reply #97 |
185. How did the fascists win the mayoralty of Caracas by boycotting the elections? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 04:37 AM Response to Reply #91 |
124. so when we used the term to describe what the US congress was doing |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #124 |
170. Congress doesn't read anything they rubber stamp. Haven't you heard of the bailout ponzy game? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:28 PM Response to Reply #82 |
99. How many seats does Obama's party control in the House and Senate? |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:33 PM Response to Reply #99 |
105. they were elected with no opposition |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:38 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. Try to focus, if that's possible. The term "rubber stam" is an insult |
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Swagman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 01:00 AM Response to Reply #82 |
120. if it's party policy which Venezualans voted for..it's not "rubber stamped" |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #120 |
169. The Venezuelans were "against it" before they were given a second chance to be "for it" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #169 |
178. How do you feel about gay marriage being back on the ballot? |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 05:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
184. Most American ports are under the jurisdiction |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #184 |
202. Interesting point. So the ports were under private control. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
2. How can centralized military control ever be bad? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. Who controls air traffic in the United States? Airport security? |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Name a federally controlled and operated airport and seaport |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Are you kidding? If you control security and traffic, you control it. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. OK nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. I don't want to pick a fight, hack. What I don't know about ports |
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SpankMe (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #20 |
61. Not really. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. "Hugo Chavez style"? |
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Swagman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
62. oh yeh..let's have all airports privatelly owned like in Australia |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
81. Have tou tried to get on an airplane lately? |
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Swagman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 01:05 AM Response to Reply #81 |
121. "rubber-stamped" or just seized by Bush ? |
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bdab1973 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #17 |
205. It's not that simple |
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bdab1973 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 09:46 AM Response to Reply #13 |
204. The military doesn't control air traffic in the United States |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #204 |
206. We were talking about federal control, not military control. n/t |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #206 |
218. You, uh, mean there's a DIFFERENCE? Uh, oh! Back to the drawing board. n/t |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 08:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
127. That was the consensus reached in the beer gardens in Germany almost a century ago. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
6. Is this like the "Department of Homeland Security"? nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I don't know yet. I dont think so. They've been trying to get their |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. BS - this is pure politics. nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Really? Why don"t you enlighten us. I'm always happy to learn something new. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. It is Chavez ensuring his opposition is weakened. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. These stories always say that everything Chavez does is to weaken his opposition. |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
42. Stories "always say" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Except what they say never comes true. |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 09:35 AM Response to Reply #19 |
203. That's the opinion of the story's writer, not part of factual reporting. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #203 |
207. Please provide a link discussing Hugo Chavez's inexusable repression of the press. |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #207 |
209. Sorry, I thought Chavez' repression of the press was common knowledge. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 08:10 AM Response to Reply #209 |
211. There is zero evidence that the Venezuelan government |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 10:25 AM Response to Reply #211 |
212. Heritage foundation? PBS was the source here. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #212 |
216. The film you're quoting didn't do any original reporting that I remember |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #209 |
215. Common knowledge? If it passes for "knowledge" anywhere, it's among idiots. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
28. More like the US Customs service then? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. More than that, less than fascist control. lol |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Well, I do know California doesn't have it's own customs service. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Sure! n/t |
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rabs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
30. The other side of the coin re the BBC report |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Thank you for that. (nt) |
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rabs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. You're welcome and make it Bolivarian armed forces |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Thank you again. And I didn't even notice your typo, I knew exactly what you meant. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Have been hearing for years about these places, particularly Zulia, where the huge landowners |
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rabs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. NYT today says it is the FARC that is using Venezuela airstrips |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:40 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. LOLOL! |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. What a laff-riot from Simon Romero! Always the comedian, isn't he? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:36 PM Response to Reply #52 |
70. Borev rocks! |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
85. yeah, they always use the same airstrips as the paramilitaries. well, they can tell their story |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. So, the opposition is trying to frame this as a military takeover? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. It's also so bizarre when their well dressed, groomed little college students |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. It's EXACTLY like hearing Caribou Barbie whining about being victimized by the liberal media. |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:06 PM Response to Reply #45 |
58. So you disapprove of student protests against the government? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:35 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. Judi is famously a North Korean spy. Get with the program. |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:43 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. That's her business if she wants to defend cross-border North Korean kidnappings |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. You're so cute, Zorro. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #58 |
156. So you approve of misrepresenting Democratic posters here. A noble pursuit, for sure! |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #156 |
181. For someone who routinely labels Democrats "fascists" because they don't adore Hugo |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 09:34 PM Response to Reply #181 |
183. LOL. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. See this clip at 8:37, when the opposition publically declares |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
37. I hope they do a better job of it.. |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
39. Is "rubber-stamped" BBC newspeak for "approved??" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Yes, it is. Ask John Pilger who can't get his film "The War on Democracy" |
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kwenu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
54. Chavez is centralizing all power in his hands. At some point this is going to go horribly awry. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:03 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Hide your kittehs! |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Hugo Chavez doesn't pay his parking tickets! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:08 PM Response to Reply #59 |
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kwenu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
74. You seem really touchy when it comes to Chavez. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. Project much? |
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kwenu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:26 PM Response to Reply #80 |
96. Provide an actual thoughtful intelligent response much? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:31 PM Response to Reply #96 |
101. You haven't read this thread, have you? |
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kwenu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. You have no answers, have you? |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. Or maybe he's 'centralizing all power' in the hands of the people? |
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kwenu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. Ummn. NO! That's just rhetoric. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:50 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Right. A ten year track record means nothing on the intertubes. |
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kwenu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:52 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. A ten year track record of what? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Of delivering for the Venezuelan people by doing his job |
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kwenu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:15 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. So poverty and homelessness has been greatly reduced in Venezuela? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:24 PM Response to Reply #87 |
94. The UN reported that poverty has been reduced by 50% since 2003 |
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kwenu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:30 PM Response to Reply #94 |
100. You haven't stated a fact yet. So NO! You don't get the research job. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. LOL. I thought so. |
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kwenu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:34 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. You thought what? You seem to have difficulty with complete thoughts or points. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:58 PM Response to Reply #106 |
116. Really? I think the problem is yours. I've been communicating just fine here. |
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kwenu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 12:13 AM Response to Reply #116 |
117. Does that mean you're going to provide a link the the supposed UN report showing Chavez's success? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 12:14 AM Response to Reply #117 |
118. No. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:08 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. A ten year track record of: |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:17 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Let me add to that: A 10 year record of being democratically re-elected and winning every referendum |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:19 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Not quite every referendum |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:54 PM Response to Reply #90 |
112. Sorry. That's correct. He lost ONE referendum a few years ago. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:56 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. And it was within the margin of error. And, he conceded gracefully. n/t |
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kwenu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:22 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. I never called him a despot. I said I didn't trust him. Bush was re-elected too! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:26 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Bush was never elected once. First he was selected by the SC |
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kwenu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:28 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. Okay. Well now that changes everything. Thanks. |
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kwenu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:20 PM Response to Reply #83 |
92. I get you. You're saying that Venezuela has |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 12:30 AM Response to Reply #92 |
119. No. That's not what I said. |
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bgr1938 (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
63. rubber stamped implies |
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Staneck (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #63 |
150. Exactly. Congress is elected by the people |
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classysassy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
64. Why |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:30 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Because they've been told he is the devil? I don't know. |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
86. FARC rebels in alleged Venezuela smuggling |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #86 |
107. LOL! It's too bad your post was pre-empted up thread and that the FARC bullshit was debunked months |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Keep awishin', Dorothy |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:54 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. You're very tiresome. You've read the same articles I have in the Latin America forum. |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #113 |
145. More typical FUD from you |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. Bad chain of custody ACCORDING TO INTERPOL |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #146 |
147. You really are shameless in promoting blatant falsehoods |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #147 |
149. Referring to a report out of ECUADOR, not out of Bogata quoting THEM. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #149 |
152. Funny you should mention that! The Colombian government just issued a report |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #146 |
148. That leaped right out at most people from the very first. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #148 |
151. And even after ALL of that study, he's STILL pitching the Magic Laptops! |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #151 |
153. They put the facts on "ignore!" That might be a faulty plan. n/t |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #151 |
158. Executive Committee unanimously affirms INTERPOL’s report on seized FARC computers |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #151 |
159. Talk about shooting fish in a barrel |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #159 |
160. The only thing you've shown is that Interpol contradicts ITSELF. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #160 |
161. Well, nobody, I say, nobody's perfect. They ARE, after all, Interpol! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #161 |
179. LOL! Look at that FACE! |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 04:33 AM Response to Reply #179 |
199. He/she had to be wildly confused. Anyone that addled is too sick to post! n/t |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 09:32 AM Response to Reply #86 |
186. "U.S. officials have long said..." blah-blah-blah...the FARC, Venezuela. You're citing Bushwhacks? |
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spag68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
89. Chavez |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:51 PM Response to Reply #89 |
110. What elections has he "obliterated"? Seriously. How in the world did you come up with such nonsense? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #89 |
114. Wha? All of their elections are monitored. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 03:57 AM Response to Reply #89 |
122. That's got to be among the oddest claims anyone ever attempted here. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 10:05 AM Response to Reply #89 |
131. "obliterates elections"... either you made that up |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
125. Rule by Decree |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #125 |
129. The latest change to the law came after parliament voted for it. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #129 |
139. Something else comes to mind -- the BushCo sponsored "unrest" in Bolivia |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #139 |
143. Nueva Esparta includes the island of Margarita and other islands, Maracaibo is IN Zulia |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #129 |
164. Kind of like the TARP bill and the provision to allow |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #164 |
175. Right. Kind of like that but completely different. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 10:17 AM Response to Reply #175 |
187. Nope, more like apples ane apples. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #129 |
165. You're so right. If the opposition had any intention of including the huge majority of Venezuelans |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
126. It's unconstitutional for Venezuela to control it's own ports? |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 08:37 AM Response to Reply #126 |
128. individual states rights decreased |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #128 |
142. Local projects -- like money laundering and drug trafficking |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #142 |
166. Thats a rather lame status quo reply...drugs....Miami connection...US still out to get Hugo. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #166 |
167. Make the effort to be informed on the material to which EFerrari refers.You need to know |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #167 |
173. Judy Judy Judy |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #166 |
168. That's a rather lame regurgitation of spin. |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #168 |
171. The supreme court is where they intend to take it. ( btw, how much do they pay you ? ) |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #171 |
172. Now that's odd! n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #171 |
174. No one pays me to have a brain. n/t |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 08:28 PM Response to Reply #174 |
177. That's good to know |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #177 |
180. Yes, I know. In ZorroWorld, my PBK newsletter is confiscated |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #171 |
176. These, btw, are the "states rights" champions you're defending. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
130. good! |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
134. If this is such a logical move, that could NEVER stir unrest, why is he sending his military? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #134 |
136. If there was unrest, it would be plastered all over the papers. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #136 |
137. Well, there is none, because he sent the big guns in |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #137 |
138. LOL |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #138 |
144. Hugo Chavez stole his girlfriend. |
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junior college (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
135. This was an essential move |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #135 |
140. I found a story where this is framed as a budget cutting measure: |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
155. ugh, i hate terms like 'motherland' |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #155 |
157. He probably said "patria" which has never been out of use in Latin America. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
182. I have a stupid question. Who controls the ports in our client states -- |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #182 |
193. Colombia's ports were nationalized until 1993. From what I've seen so far, searching, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #193 |
194. Were those Colombian ports subsequently privatized? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #194 |
195. It looks like it, but I'm not sure. Just found this non-endorsement for port privatization, however! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #195 |
196. It does look like it. You know, I was reading a Plan Colombia doc last night |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 04:38 PM Response to Reply #196 |
197. Just saw this timeline which says US started supplying Colombia with military equipment |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #196 |
198. During Bush #41's Presidency his friend. Argentina's Carlos Saul Menem |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
189. We need to do some thinking about the plan Rumsfeld alluded to, in his op-ed |
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Bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
191. EL PRESIDENTE POR VIDA.....JUST BECAME DICTADOR |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #191 |
192. Hugo Chavez has been elected by a huge majority of the public. |
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StrongBad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #192 |
214. And of course you're assuming that Venezuela has impeccable elections. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #214 |
217. Please take the time to read this information from DU'er Peace Patriot: |
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