Cheney's Role Deepens (NBC Reports - VP's office suggested waterboarding)

[kpete]

Source: The Daily Beast

Cheney's Role Deepens

by Robert Windrem

Former NBC Investigative Producer Robert Windrem reports that the Vice President’s office suggested waterboarding an Iraqi prisoner who was suspected of knowing about a relationship between Al Qaeda and Saddam.

Former NBC News Investigative Producer Robert Windrem, who covered terrorism for the network, reports exclusively in The Daily Beast that:

****Two U.S. intelligence officers confirm that Vice President Cheney’s office suggested waterboarding an Iraqi prisoner, a former intelligence official for Saddam Hussein, who was suspected to have knowledge of a Saddam-Al Qaeda connection.

***The former chief of the Iraq Survey Group, Charles Duelfer, in charge of interrogations, tells The Daily Beast that he considered the request reprehensible.

****Much of the information in the report of the 9/11 Commission was provided through more than 30 sessions of torture of detainees.



Read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-05-13/cheneys-role-deepens/

[Botany]

1. I am starting to think Cheney is not a nice man.

:rofl:


So we beat and tortured people .... in many cases innocent people so as to make them lie about a link
between Sadam and 9/11 to start an unneeded war ..... aka this why Cheney is scared shitless.


BTW Sadam used to shoot any al Qaeda people in Iraq.

[ananda]

7. Analogy: Cheney is to nice..

.. as the Dalai Lama or Nelson Mandela
is to mean.

[saigon68]

25. Frog March the War Criminal

[Rosa Luxemburg]

2. Cheney sounds like Mengeles!

[Blackhatjack]

3. It's a mere coincidence that Cheney is speaking out on use of torture...you think? n/t

[mwb970]

4. cheney is even more of a bastard than I thought he was!

I already hated him with the searing heat of a thousand suns, but the last week or two has lowered my opinion of him even further. The level of evil in him is simply beyond belief. What a horrible creature he is!

[Cass]

5. This explains the recent Cheney family media torture tour. nt

[bulloney]

6. I'm getting the impression that Cheney is starting to get swallowed by his own doings.

Will he pull a Ken Lay and "conveniently" croak before he has to serve any time? (I still think Lay is living in another part of the world under a different identity. The timing of his death and the fact that he was supposedly cremated looked too convenient for my comfort.)

[goforit]

11. Yep...Ken Lay IS still alive. Wouldn't it be cool to find them? And Barbara Olsen?

[No DUplicitous DUpe]

14. Um, Kenny boy really did die that night, as I have first hand info...

I spoke with the nurses, ambulance emt's and Sheriff officers who worked that night. The AM ER nurse that took report from the nurses that worked on him through the night, is related to me.(wife)

[bdamomma]

8. Cheney that SOB, what a waste he is.

his fingerprints are all over this, he has no respect for this country, or the people, and just does not give a shit about anything except for money and abuse of power.

[Doctor_J]

9. But Cheney pinned it on Bush Sunday

Are they going for a mistrial?

[daleo]

10. Cheney deserves a wax figure of himself

At Madame Tousad's, in the torture chamber exhibit.

[starroute]

12. How much doubt does this cast on the 9/11 Commission report?

Is it time to get out those old revisionist spectacles and go over it with a fine-tooth come to eliminate anything that looks likely to have been the result of coerced confessions?

Is the entire report now in question as a result?

[leveymg]

19. A lot. Zelikow sabotaged the 9/11 Commission Report. Time for Volume 2, Revised.

There are a thousand unanswered questions, and this raises more. Foremost amongst them:

* Why did the CIA/CTC unit allow the AQ operatives they had watched planning the 9/11 attacks in Kuala Lumpur enter the country immediately after they left the meeting?
* Why were FBI warning cables withheld by CIA/CTC when the Flt. 77 entered the US after attending the meeting where the attacks were planned?
* Why was the military's Able-Danger program shut down that was tracking the AQ "Brooklyn Cell" inside the US, and why did Zelikow deep-six this from the Commission Report?
* Why did Bush refuse to roll-up the cells known to be operating inside the US in the late summer when urged to do so by Tenet and his men at CTC, Cofer Black, and Rich B?
* Why were waterboarding/sleep deprivation/sensory driving - techniques known to cause brain damage and severe memory impairment -- used against the surviving 9/11 planners by the same CIA/CTC unit that had allowed the hijackers into the US?

[EFerrari]

20. Cheney/Rumsfeld had a couple goals for the torture program in 2002.

What was the objective after that -- for the next five and a half years?

[leveymg]

21. A couple goals: Iraq; then Iran.

One for Two -.500 - actually, not so bad for baseball. Steiglitz estimates the Iraq war cost at $2.3 trillion. Not bad at all. Probably twice that, given that it pitched the country into bankruptcy and bail-out. Nice $5 trillion haul - not bad for an "incompetent" and his designated flack-catcher.

Ok, call me cynical.

[bleever]

24. Your last point is intriguing

and chilling.

[KansDem]

28. Your last point has crossed my mind ever since this whole debacle broke loose.

Why were waterboarding/sleep deprivation/sensory driving - techniques known to cause brain damage and severe memory impairment -- used against the surviving 9/11 planners by the same CIA/CTC unit that had allowed the hijackers into the US?

You think, maybe, that these detainees could have spilled the beans on what really happened on 9/11 and why? Therefore, their recollections needed to be scrambled?

[leveymg]

30. What they could tell us about the AQ-CIA relationship would be viewed as unacceptable by the public.

9/11 has to be understood in the context of the sometimes violently ambivalent relationship between US intelligence and Islamic militants. The American people are not prepared to accept the fact that the US employs terrorists in its foreign relations, and that relationship did not end with the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan.

[PatSeg]

13. He could have just paid the guy

to say there was a connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda. It seems the Bush administration had done that before. I'm sure they would have gotten the results they wanted.

[libodem]

15. He has that deranged daughter

out there defending him, too. Cheney is a monster and history will prove it. Dubya is sure quite, huh?

[Kablooie]

16. Question: Why is Cheney suddenly Mr. media talking head? ...

Answer: He knows that all torture decrees point directly at him and he's in a desperate self protection mode.

He is scared that his head is about to go on the chopping block.

[defendandprotect]

17. Cheney is a sadist -- possibly a reincarnated "Crusader" . . . ???

[BlueMTexpat]

18. More probably a "Grand Inquisitor" ... n/t

[Wednesdays]

22. K&R

:kick:

[yellowcanine]

23. There they go again: Rogue "offices" committing crimes. When will we stop this office crime spree?

[Justitia]

26. I'm sooo glad Cheney is all over teevee, yapping about his love for torture.

Folks, we got our War Criminal just begging for it.

[Uncle Joe]

27. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, kpete.:thumbsup:

[bemildred]

29. Cheney keeps on digging the hole deeper. nt