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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:05 PM
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House rejects probe into Pelosi CIA claims
Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — House Democrats on Thursday defeated a Republican push to investigate House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's claims that the CIA misled her in 2002 about whether waterboarding had been used against terrorism suspects.

The House voted 252-172 to block the measure that would have created a bipartisan congressional panel. Rep. Rob Bishop, R-Utah, sponsored the resolution.

"This is partisan politics and an attempt by the Republicans to distract from the real issue of creating jobs and making progress on health care, energy and education," said Pelosi spokesman Nadeam Elshami.

Pelosi told reporters this month that she had not been told that waterboarding had been used against terrorism suspects, even though it had been. President Barack Obama and human rights groups have said waterboarding, which simulates drowning, is torture.

"To have this charge out there and not have it resolved I think is damaging to our intelligence efforts, and certainly will have a chilling effect on our intelligence professionals around the world," said House Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio.



Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXc06gBGGAlR7Wy96JZiTUnlt_JwD98AOBGO0
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:08 PM
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1. That's unfortunate. It would have been a real learning process. nt
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:11 PM
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2. Learning process that the republicans are full of crap and trying to create a distraction
from who the real culprits are
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:17 PM
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4. Correct. So far, the facts ALL back her up. nt
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:21 PM
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5. But no indictments
Personnally I would find her story more believable if those members of the CIA who willfully misled her were facing indictments.
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:23 PM
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6. Who's reporting facts?
The MSM just parrots talking points fed to them by the CIA.
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:15 PM
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3. Like Whitewhater was a learning process
etc etc. Don't give them an opening for distraction. This would have been terrible.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:41 PM
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10. I know. They certainly kept that going going long enough.
Vindictive, wasteful, mendacious bastards.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:33 PM
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9. Yes. We were greatly enlightened by learning what was behind President Clinton's zipper.
Shut down the GOP's bullshit demands. Period.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:28 PM
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7. why isn't pelosi pushing for an investigation? n/t
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:30 PM
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8. She suggested it the other day. Last Monday I think. nt
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snowdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:39 PM
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11.  House GOP to Force Vote on Pelosi
Source: abc





http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/05/house-gop-to-fo.html

House GOP to Force Vote on Pelosi


May 21, 2009 10:02 AM

ABC News’ Rick Klein, Jonathan Karl, and Dean Norland report:

House Republicans today plan to force their colleagues to vote on whether to launch an investigation of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s allegation that the CIA misled her, a move that will force Democrats to take a stand on a politically contentious issue.

The measure has virtually no chance of passing, given the Democratic majority in the House, and the wide support inside the caucus for Pelosi, D-Calif.

But Republican aides say they want to force the full House to vote on whether to create a special, bipartisan subcommittee to investigate the speaker’s claims -- a move that keeps Pelosi in a harsh spotlight for another day, and forces some Democrats into a potentially awkward vote.

“The speaker has had a full week now to either produce the evidence or retract and apologize, and she's done neither,” a senior Republican aide tells ABC News. “There is no choice now. A bipartisan investigation is needed to get to the facts."

....................

UPDATE: Democrats voted to table the resolution that would have required an investigation, with a 252-172 party-line vote. So Republicans got the vote they wanted, albeit not directly.

Read more: http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/05/house-gop-to-fo.html
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:39 PM
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12. DEMS: Look, real issues! GOP: Look! Shiny things!
It's nice to have the adults back in charge. Shame the children are still throwing tantrums.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:39 PM
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13. So where are the calls for an investigation of Yoo, Bybee, Cheney, Bush, etc.?
Well?
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:39 PM
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14. This could be excellent
Edited on Thu May-21-09 03:14 PM by texastoast
I don't think the pukes really, really want that. This is just a bunch of showboating.


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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:39 PM
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15. If they don't know perfectly well that NEITHER Nancy nor the CIA can produce such proof
because keeping notes of CIA briefings is illegal, well, the SHOULD know.

:headbang:
rocktivity
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:39 PM
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16. they want to know if Pelosi knew that criminal torture was taking place
best case scenario - she was informed, and can confirme that criminal torture took place and that she was briefed on it.

worst case, she was never briefed. The CIA continues to torture, and the DEMS will be too tough to weaken our war on terror by avoinding our own terror tactics.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:39 PM
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18. Please don't throw us into that Brier patch..
Come on Republicans DEMAND an investigation. I doubt there will be any Resistance from Democrats if it is all encompassing..If Pelosi has some guilt let's get it out there but at the same time let's get to the bottom of the whole shebang..Rememeber it is All about TORTURE
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