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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 02:03 AM
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US 'opposes' nuclear North Korea
Source: BBC

The US "will not accept" a nuclear-armed North Korea, Defence Secretary Robert Gates has told an Asian summit.

Mr Gates said the US would "not stand idly by as North Korea builds the capability to wreak destruction on any target in the region or on us".

A top Chinese army official attending the meeting called on all parties involved to remain "cool-headed".

Earlier, the US said activity in the North could indicate plans for a new long-range missile test


Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8074937.stm
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 06:13 AM
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1. coz only the US should be able to 'wreak destruction on any target',
we know how to wreck destruction the right way! USA! USA!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 06:21 AM
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2. China also opposes it. so do 88 other countries.
why do you think that is?
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 07:11 AM
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3. Because it's easier to post a comment bagging on the US than to employ critical thinking?
:shrug:
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 08:02 AM
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6. bagging? there's is no country wreaking more destruction on the world today than the US
Edited on Sat May-30-09 08:03 AM by KG
there is no country threatening more distruction, supporting more destruction, or capable of more destruction in the world today.

that's critical thinking about america.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:59 AM
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7. The citizens of Darfur might disagree with you on that one. The people of Rwanda, too.
Edited on Sat May-30-09 10:59 AM by Honeycombe8
No country is more capable of destroying people and property than the U.S., since we are the superpower of the world, but there are other countries who do, in fact, make it a practice to cause the suffering of others for pure greed or purely selfish motives.

Although Bush led the country astray during the last 8 years, we are not a country that willfully and recklessly causes the suffering of people in the world, as a matter of policy and practice. Even BushCo's main goal in Iraq was not to kill innocent people (they just willfully disregarded the collateral damage, saying it was for the greater good). It was, in their ignorance, to make the Middle East more stable. Unfortunately, they "forgot" to ask people who, like, KNEW something about the region.
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:12 PM
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14. Yeah.
When we slaughter people in other countries, and otherwise bring about the deaths of millions - through the destruction of infrastructure and the decimation of civil society, for instance - we're doing it for their own good. We're just a big old bumbling teddy bear with a good heart and a kind smile.

Ain't that right, Honeycombe8.
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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 07:12 AM
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4. China also opposed anything to do with Democracy on Tiananmen Square
Edited on Sat May-30-09 07:15 AM by BunkerHill24
what is your point?

America is going about supplying Nuclear technology to non-NPT nation like India. Where's your thinking on this?

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:34 PM
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10. my point is that the U.S. is hardly the only nation
opposing N.Korea's nuclear capability. The world is pretty much in concert regarding this. I think that demonstrates that the U.S. is hardly behaving in a bullying or imprudent manner on this issue.

As for supplying nuclear technology to India, I don't know enough about it to comment. In any case, India is not N. Korea.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 07:38 AM
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5. I'm sure N.Korea is scared
Honestly,

I think North Korea and Iran woke up to the fact that the US is bogged down in two un-winnable wars and nearly bankrupt.

What the hell are we going to do? N.Korea could cross the 38th parallel tomorrow and thanks to our Cowboy President we are powerless to prevent it short of lobbing a Nuclear Missile.

The only thing that prevents N.Korea from doing it is China.

I believe its time for us to let Japan re-arm, including allowing the Japanese Nuclear weapons.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:35 PM
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11. Why? What difference will it make if Japan has nukes?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 04:33 PM
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12. Scare the fuck out of the Chinese and Koreans
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 12:35 PM
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8. They apparently already have the capability...
The danger of North Korea is it already has the capability of striking other countries and starting a nuclear war but do we strike first and start a nuclear war ourselves?

North Korea has become the big kid on the block. The bully instead of the bullied. Hard to think of North Korea as the bullied. But it has been. As a result of our policies.

It is a sovereign nation that our policies turned into the bully. Starving a people in the hope that they will rise up and remove the leader we don't like has never been a wise policy.

As we are finally seeing in North Korea. Maybe our defensive systems would prevent a strike on Seoul or Tokyo or Honolulu. Maybe they wouldn't.

North Korea might start a nuclear war. A possibility we have to accept. Or it may finally force the issue of nuclear disarmament. A possibility we have to pursue. We cannot live in a world that is forever on the brink of nuclear war.

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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:54 AM
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13. The problem is not about N. Korea, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, or Bolivia
Its about the US foreign policy toward other nations. US of A is the biggest bully superpower the word has ever seen.....indeed its all about what good old US of A wants, and never about what a sovereign nation want or can do.
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Old Hob Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 12:55 PM
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9. Don't worry Gates, as you told us already, the only future threats we face are in Iraq
and Afghanistan so there's no need to even consider a war with North Korea because then you would have to admit that you're either a fucking liar or completely incompetent...you pick.
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