Live Haiti coverage again now at 7 pm EST/4pm PST on Pacifica & KPFA

[eablair3]

right now on Pacifica - live coverage once again started after the afternoon break. Democracy Now's Amy Goodman and Flashpoint's Dennis Bernstein.

http://www.pacifica.org/about/

[Tinoire]

1. Listening now. This is some frightening. Kidnapped at gun-point by USMC

by US marines.

Supposedly up in a plane for the last 15 hours? Incommunicado?

I'm just grateful his children are out of the country :(

Abducted at 2 in the morning by American forces and packed off to somewhere we don't know. We have no idea where they are. They have not arrived in South Africa and South Africa had never been contacted for asylum. We have no idea where they are (Aristide & his wife)


Mildred Aristide who just last night was reiterating that under NO circumstances would they leave and hand their country over to thugs and killers armed by the United States.

[eablair3]

3. My guess as to the whereabouts of Aristide, his wife, and officials

they've been executed.

or, they are in Haiti somewhere being held, OR

... they have been taken to Guantanamo Bay.

[Mika]

5. They are on a US carrier

ABC local (Miami) news said that the US was arranging for a country to accept Aristide's asylum request. :crazy:

[eablair3]

10. If they are on a US carrier, why can't they make a statement?

why can't Aristide make a statment? He's obvioulsy being prevented from doing so, or else he and/or his wife or officials would have made a statement already.

sounds like Hugo Chavez and the coup in Venezuela all over again.

[Mika]

13. It was not a voluntary resignation, obviously.

The US is supporting the killers, again. :puke:

[Tinoire]

11. I am scared about an execution

Aristide is stubborn. Can't have him shooting off at the mouth about Bush & the CIA.

[Mika]

16. Me too

Suicided? Plane crash? Whatdoya think

[Renew Deal]

19. Is this being reported by the mainstream press?

[htuttle]

21. No

It's Oscar night...

[Renew Deal]

25. Rangel is on. WTF is going on?

If Rangel is on this it must be important. That may mean that Rangel will bring this up in congress. Is that Maxinne Waters? She is going ape shit.

[Mika]

32. They have been going ape shit for weeks

I have seen both of them as well as Ms Jackson Lee going ape shit on the floor - on CSPAN.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

40. Maybe someone will mention Haiti at the podium...fingers crossed...n/t

[WillyT]

2. Listening Here, Thanks !!!

This would be a bloody frigging Keystone Cops episode, if it weren't for the whoreable silence from our 'mainstream' news outlets.

UnFUCKINGbelieveable!!!

:grr::nuke::mad:

[eablair3]

4. Rangell on now. ... seems to be confirming the coup (nt)

[ChiefHappyButt]

9. Rangell is great

ABC said Aristide resigned. Oh man, why do I bother to turn on the tv?

[eablair3]

6. MSNBC just reported that Aristide is going to Central African Republic (NT

[Tinoire]

14. yeah with the US making the asylum request- not Aristide

M-16s ALL OVER AGAIN!

:mad:

[Renew Deal]

27. Central African Republic

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ct.html

[Mika]

7. Rangel, Waters. Two of a kind!

Bless them.

[eablair3]

26. yes, they are good - Waters calling for an investigation of US kidnapping

she's qualifying her words, but she says that IF Aristide was kidnapped by the US that there needs to be an investigation, and Rangell said that, if so, Bush has REALLY overstepped his bounds this time.

[deutsey]

8. Everyone: Stop complaining about "mainstream media"

and support Pacifica and Democracy Now! Send money now...tune in now and every day. STOP waiting for "liberals" in America to put up a "liberal" network.

Pacifica has been around since 1949. Tune in and support it now.

www.pacifica.org

www.democracynow.org

[eablair3]

12. and Flashpoints, too !!

and don't forget to support Flashpoints either:

http://www.flashpoints.net

[fearnobush]

18. WBAI Everyday.

24hrs of what you always wanted to hear on the radio.

[Athame]

52. KPFK in So California

Incredible truth telling, especially on this story.

KPFK 90.7 in LA 98.7 in Santa Barbara

:kick:

[Red_Storm]

43. Right On !

[brads]

15. Call the press

Demand that they stop talking of Aristide's "resignation" until we can hear directly from Aristide himself. It's clear from listening to Democracy Now!, from people who talked to Aristide and his wife multiple times every day up until yesterday, that Aristide would not have resigned. He is still missing, and it is reported that the US Marines actually kidnapped him and took him out of the country.

This is a major travesty of justice that US imperialism is carrying out before our eyes, yet the media is completely missing the real story.

[eablair3]

17. yeah, the mainstream media is showing themselves right now

the mainstream media is proving their worth right now. A prime example happening right now, as we type here and listen to Pacifica.

"Haiti Under Siege" is on Live on Pacifica.

It's no where on mainstream media.

[Wells]

37. Business as usual....

The mainstream media would not report on Prescott Bush's directorship of finance companies managing Germany's munitions industries, long before and after US entrance into WWII, when the said company's assets were seized under US Trading with the Enemy Act. Business as usual.

The South Will Rise Agin Bush

[nostamj]

38. well, Baba Wawa just interviewed SHREK on ABC

priorities, you know...

[fearnobush]

33. Here they are.

Here are some of the media email addresses I use quite often. If enough people send emails demanding the truth, they may be compelled to report if they feel their credibility is threatened. Remember to be professional as possible. Being courteous yet demanding and to the point will be more powerful than screaming and cursing.

Meet the Press
Newsweek
Keith Olbermann
Washington Post
MSNBC Main
Chris Matthews
<http://www.cnn.com/feedback> CNN's feedback link page

[eablair3]

20. Aristide led away in handcuffs

eyewitnesses, including an ABC reporter or cameraman, and Aristide's security personnel.

[Mika]

23. ABC cameraman didn't want to be the next Bob Stevens (1st anthrax victim)

eom

[pinto]

22. KFPA reporting that USMC "escorted" Aristide in handcuffs, 5AM Haiti time.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

24. ABC cameraman claims Aristide taken away in handcuffs by US troops.

Pacifica Radio's on the scene reporter, Kevin Pena (sp) has a report from a very frightened anonymous ABC network camera man who said Aristede was taken away in the early morning in handcuffs.

Listen and stand by for more information.

[Renew Deal]

28. Listening to Rangel is giving me the chills. WTF is going on?

If Bushco took Aristide, he is a fucking criminal. They are all fucking criminals

[pinto]

29. Maxine's talking about "rebels, thugs and killers" support rom US

[MidwestMomma]

30. Thanks to everyone for the reports

Keep them coming...this is sounding very bad...but not surprising unfortunately. I hope Astride is actually allowed safe haven somewhere but I don't know what to think. If he was in handcuffs, that sounds bad for him.

When will the US back off and let these countries alone? Is Bush Jr out to avenge every imagined slight to his father? Does the GOP have to try to undo EVERY act of Clinton?

Bah on the lot of them. Hope they (the commander-in-thief and his minions) all felt good after their various church services today...hypocritical bastards.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

35. Listen to streaming at KPFA.org at this link

http://www.kpfa.org/cgi-bin/gen-mpegurl.m3u?server=aud-one.kpfa.org&port=8000&mount=icy_0&file=dummy.m3u

[Red_Storm]

45. also here in NYC.......

www.wbai.org

[not systems]

31. Kidnapping!!!

Lead out in cuffs after US ambassador meeting by 10 US marines.

Mayors house burned.

Killings taking place throughout capital.

[eablair3]

34. Flashpoints just had Kevin Pina on

he said the thugs (FRAPH) have entered Port Au Prince. Apparently, killings and executions of govt members???

[pinto]

36. question about international law being posed,

Maxine tags it as a Bush regime change policy...cites Chavez, Castro, and all those that don't cry uncle.

[eablair3]

39. Anyone catch the NATIONAL NBC news

it's just incredible.

the Marines are already there. someone else already sworn in. Bush giving sound bites.

No word from Aristide.

Unbelievable by NBC.

[eablair3]

41. French radio reporting that Aristide led away at gunpoint

just heard on here a report that French radio is reporting that Aristide was led away at gunpoint.

42. bbc link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3520457.stm

this is old though updated last @17:38 GMT

"But, the pressure from the international community was too much, and he was escorted to the main airport by US Marines at dawn.

According to one source, he resisted even while going up the stairs to the aircraft alongside his wife and some 40 aides."

[janx]

44. What international community?

Who, other than the U.S., is involved with this? I haven't heard anything and the bbc isn't specific. ?

[0007]

46. This is bad and won't go kindly toward junior and his crime cabal

A sad day for Democracy

[eablair3]

47. I saw video of what appeared to be Canadian armed forces at the airport

and the French were supposedly there, too. Don't know if the reports are accurate though.

the video of the Canadians was on either the CBS or NBC national news.

they also had video of the US Ambassador to Haiti telling how Aristide "resigned" and decided to leave supposedly for the good of Haiti. Everyone who has been on Pacifica/KPFA who has talked to Aristide and his wife said they were adamant even yesterday about never ever leaving. And, then they had a video clip of what appeared to be some Haitian puppet read a "prepared statement" attributed to Aristide saying he resigned and left voluntarily.

If he left voluntarily, ... why can't we see him live on TV, and why can't we hear him give a live statement?

Most on here know the reason.

[eablair3]

48. Transcript - US Ambassador to Haiti on CBS Ntional News

I typed this up with the help of my tivo, ... pretty amazing statements on the national news broadcasts.

CBS Narrator (with video of plane taking off): "Before most Haitians even woke up, just before daybreak, this plane carried President Aristide into exile, pressure to flee by Washington and others in the international community."

Cut to Clip of US Ambassador to Haiti James Foley, who stated this wrt to Aristide: "... It was a patriotic gesture. It could begin to heal the country. It could begin to calm the situation. It could begin to encourage people rapidly to stop the violence, and he felt that this was his responsibility."

The "opposition paramilitaries" were shown in brand new uniforms with new guns and new army helmets. Doesn't any of these mainstream media ask who financed and paid for all these new weapons and uniforms for these thugs?

Then to cap it off, ... Bush comes on in a clip and says "I urge the people of Haiti to reject violence. To give this break from the past a chance to work. And, the United States is prepared to help."

Then they cut to a clip of Colin Powell getting out of a car and the CBS Narrator says: "The U.S. has already taken on a lead role. It was the White House's firm push that finally propelled Jean Bertrand Aristide out of Haiti. Secretary of State Powell spent most of last night and today working to find a country that would give Aristide exile. ..."

In other words, the White House was behind the coup.

[rman]

49. France, Canada openly called for Arestide to leave

other nations saw no reason to speak out against this support of terrorism, so they are complicit.

[htuttle]

50. France collaborated with the US on this coup

There nothing that unites the white countries of the world like an uppity country of blacks.

France had a number of reasons to want Aristide out, in a very similar manner to the way Spain wants Chavez gone.

[Matilda]

51. So, is France paying back Haiti for declaring its independence

from the mother country 200 years ago?

Or are they trying to score brownie points with Bush after that
nasty misunderstanding over Iraq?

Disgusting.