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Katarina Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:09 PM
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Head of U.S. Security Firm For Aristide Speaks Out
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Reports emerged yesterday that the private U.S. security firm guarding President Aristide was prevented by the White House from sending reinforcements to Haiti last week to bolster his security. We speak with the CEO of the firm Kenneth Kurtz.

As we reported yesterday on Democracy Now!, Jean-Bertrand Aristide says he was told by US officials this weekend that if he did not leave Haiti, paramilitary leader Guy Philippe would storm the palace and Aristide would be killed. Congressmember Maxine Waters said on this program that Aristide was told by the US that they were withdrawing Aristide's US security. But just what was Aristide's "US Security?"

It turns out that Aristide was being guarded by a private security firm, based in San Francisco. It is called the Steele Foundation. It is made up of former US special forces soldiers, intelligence officers and other security experts. The company has been on a State Department-approved contract with the Haitian government since 1998.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/03/02/1616229
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:12 PM
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1. this should be a huge story
but the corporate media will avoid it
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:23 PM
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19. Only in a Free Nation with a Free and Independant Press
Imperial Amerika is neither (though we still for the moment have the daily existance of freedom, thank God, but the 2% that holds up the other 98% has gone missing, thus all the rest will eventually follow).
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:31 PM
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22. a huge story?
I heard the guy be interviewed on Dem Now. He wouldn't say much. I thought Amy Goodman did a pretty good job in pressing him for info, but whenever she would get him cornered, it seemed he would just say "I can't answer that" or "I can't comment on that."

I kept wondering if this firm of former special forces personnel who now supposedly contract for private security services are not tied in real close to the govt. Obviously, these things are not the easiest things to find out, let alone prove.

Goodman asked the guy whether the company provides security for Paul Bremer in Iraq, and he said he wouldn't comment on that. A bunch of times, all he said was "I can't comment on that."

Now, if this compnay does provide such security (like to Bremer in Iraq) and gets those kinds of contracts, its people probably have to be well connected with people in the US Govt and Defense Dept. And, one has to wonder what they would do when those same interests in govt come to them and say they want certain things perhaps in Haiti. Like I said, it's hard to weed thru all this stuff, but those were thoughts I had after listening to the interview.

If the mass media can dismiss the kidnapping of a democratically elected President who claims to members of Congrees that he was kidnapped by US special forces in the middle of the night, and who is being held in a country in Africa under guard ... there is no way they will even make a story at all out of this, let alone a huge one.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:13 PM
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2. Now All is Needed
to get the big media to air this.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:15 PM
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3. So the State Department
prevented mercenaries from going to Haiti and that's a bad thing?
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:17 PM
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4. State department approved mercenaries.
who just "happened" to be guarding Aristide. I find that quite strange.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:20 PM
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6. Not really
there was a civil war ongoing that they were trying to stop. Aristide tried to bring in more merceneraries and the State Department, realizing that the addition of mercenaries was unlikely to lessen violence, said no.
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:28 PM
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9. ah, yes, they tried SO HARD to stop the madness.
They didn't do jack until Aristide was gone, and up until the point he "resigned" the official policy was that we didn't want to get involved. I don't see how preventing an elected leader's bodyguards in does anything except ensure that he doesn't have protection. All the easier to whisk him away, for his own good. Everything this administration does is for the good of our country and the world, no ulterior motives, our intent is democracy. Ok.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:55 PM
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14. Aristide is the Democratically elected leader of Haiti
The bushies are trying to get rid of him because they think he is a socialist and because they can attack both Cuba and Venizuala from the base they are going to contrul there. Maybe they will even find a use for all those un-employed Haitian people. Military outsorcing could be the next big thing!

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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:55 PM
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15. A civil war that they decided to stop? What a breath-taking assertion
Cause the civil war and then say you're trying to stop it.


Would you mind weighing in on this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1181861 ?
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:25 PM
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20. He HAD to have "mercenaries"
He disbanded the damn army! :crazy:
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:36 PM
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23. prevented mercenaries?
I don't get what you are saying at all? They armed the criminal "opposition" with M-16s, M-60s, grenade launchers, new uniforms, new helmets, etc. ... You can see them on TV.

Where do you think that the criminal opposition and thugs got this stuff?

So, who exactly armed mercenaries and who sent them into Haiti?
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:20 PM
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5. kick
nt
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:25 PM
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7. Since Condi Rice, Colin Powell
and Dick Cheney are involved, I think the whole affair reekss. For some reason (hah!) I don't trust in anything they have to say.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:26 PM
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8. Baby Doc applied for passport 3 weeks ago - who told him now is the time?
Subject: WHy apply for passport 3 weeks ago - who told him now is the time?
VERY CURIOUS

Could it be this was a game by Bush - Aristide is telling truth about being kidnapped

Colin and Bush are liars?

Perhaps that explains why Richard Holbrooks comments about our CIA/Haiti drug lord/ 11 rich family connection has not gone to transcript yet from Sundays ABC This Week.

Gee - major media doing what Bush wants

Our truth telling left leaning not controlled by the GOP right wing media?

nah - it just looks like they are controlled by the right wing of the GOP, they are not really - trust me - they really are not!
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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:44 PM
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11. What?!
Got a link for me on Baby Doc's passport application? Thanks in advance!
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:50 PM
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13. Duvalier.
There were several articles. This is Reuters

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=4479603

Deposed Haitian dictator Jean-Claude "Baby Doc" Duvalier wants to return as soon as possible to his homeland, where Jean-Bertrand Aristide resigned as president after armed rebels took over much of the country.

Duvalier said in a television interview aired late on Monday, a day after Aristide fled Haiti, that he had requested a diplomatic passport several weeks ago, although he does not plan to run for president.
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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:57 PM
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16. Impressive, he must be...
using voodoo clairvoyance, eh?

man this thing stinks more and more by the minute...
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:49 PM
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12. Please tell me
that the WH is not going to put Duvalier back in as president! It would not surprise me though.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:30 PM
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21. Check this out. More Duvalier
Will Jean-Claude Duvalier Return to Haiti?

Former dictator Jean-Claude Duvalier will soon be returning to Haiti and will be posing his candidacy in upcoming presidential elections, according to several people at a meeting of Duvalierists held in Brooklyn on Sep. 10. If he doesn't take power through elections, he will take it by other means, some participants said. About 100 partisans of the former "President for Life" gathered at the Tropical Reflections night club at 4501 Glenwood Road, where they heard a panel of speakers extol the glories, both political and economic, of the Duvalier years and the evils of the Lavalas and former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide.

Jean-Claude "Baby Doc" Duvalier succeeded his father François (or "Papa Doc") as "President for Life" of Haiti in 1971. Both regimes jailed and killed opposition figures, muzzled the press, and terrorized the Haitian people through the infamous "Tonton Macoutes," a nationwide network of thugs and killers. Jean-Claude and his cronies also financed lavish lifestyles of sports cars, motorcycles, and villas by milking bribes from visiting and resident businessmen and skimming millions from incoming foreign aid packages, a practice which finally alienated Washington, the regime's long-term ally. With U.S. acquiescence and Vatican direction, a popular uprising in Feb. 1986 toppled Jean-Claude, who was trundled off to Paris in a U.S. C-130 military transport packed to the gills with all the loot that "Baby Doc" and his trophy wife Michelle Bennett could lay their hands on in the regime's final hectic days. The phlegmatic ex-dictator has lived in France ever since, making periodic telephone statements to meetings of his nostalgic supporters scattered in all corners of the Haitian diaspora.

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"Duvalier or death!" bellowed Mirabeau Petit-Homme, one of the many "heavy macoutes" who was in the room for the occasion. He was the right hand man of Roger Lafontant, the former head of the Tonton Macoutes, with whom he attempted a coup d'état in Jan. 1991 and was jailed. Petit-Homme escaped from prison during the Sep. 1991 coup and is now living, with impunity, in Brooklyn.

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In any event, as Washington's pressure on the Haitian government mounts in the weeks to come, it is likely that the Duvalierists and FRAPHists will clamor in the diaspora. Do they really want to participate in presidential elections? By their conduct and their declarations, the answer is clearly no. Their results would surely be as dismal as that of their brethren in the neo-Duvalierist front called the Patriotic Movement to Save the Nation (MPSN) in last May's election.

Their real goal seems rather to capitalize on the destabilization campaign now being deployed against Haiti so as to seize the opportunity to have Duvalier or a Duvalierist "sitting in the presidential chair," even if by other than democratic means.

http://www.haitisurf.com/babydocwill.shtml
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Duvalier and the 500 million he stole were graciously, willingly. lovingly given asylum by the French government. Neither the millions nor Duvalier were ever returned to Haiti, despite numerous requests for monetary restitution and for Duvalier to face judgement for his crimes of terror against the Haitian people.

The millions are all gone now. France had better not think this is a good time to return him.


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Ex-Haitian President Jean-Claude Duvalier goes on TV to `explain myself’

December 17th, 2002

PARIS - Jean-Claude ’’Baby Doc’’ Duvalier, the former President of Haiti who has lived in exile in France since 1986, has granted his first television interview to an American journalist in 15 years.

The interview, with WFOR-CBS4 investigative reporter Michele Gillen, will be aired tonight on CBS 4 at 6 and 11 p.m.


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During the 2 ½-hour interview in a Paris hotel, Duvalier said he now hears the cries of his people, who ``are suffering a lot. It is not bearable. It is revolting.’’

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Q: Do you want to return to Haiti?

A: It is my firm intention as soon as conditions allow.

Q: Why do you want to go back and what do you want to do?

A: In spite of all these years that have elapsed since I was in Haiti, I am still very touched by that country. I suffer from being away as well as from seeing the misery under which the Haitian population has to live. That is why it is my duty to go back to the country and participate in the rebuilding of my country.


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http://www.haiti-news.com/article.php3?id_article=26
http://www.haitisurf.com/jeanclaudeint.shtml

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MrPrax posted this yesterday

`Baby Doc,' former Haiti `President for Life,' is broke and living in Paris. (Newsmakers).(Jean-Claude Duvalier)(Interview)
Jet, May 12, 2003

Jean-Claude "Baby Doc" Duvalier, Haiti's former "President for Life" who fled Haiti 17 years ago with millions of dollars, is now broke and living in Paris, the Wall Street Journal recently reported.

The exiled dictator nicknamed "Baby Doc" lives in a borrowed one bedroom apartment with a girlfriend. A friend pays the $1,000 a month rent, the newspaper reported.

Duvalier said he lives off donations from friends and supporters.

He longs to return to Haiti. "I didn't come to France to live indefinitely," Duvalier, 51, told the Wall Street Journal. "The whole time I've been here, my heart and my spirit have been in Haiti."

Duvalier's father, Haiti President Francois "Papa Doc" Duvalier, appointed him "President for Life" of Haiti in 1971. At the time, "Baby Doc" was 19 and his father was gravely ill and dying.

A popular uprising forced "Baby Doc" into exile in February 1986. Tens of thousands had been killed during the 29-year reign of the Duvalier family, and hundreds of millions of dollars were stolen.

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http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m1355/20_103/101613586/p1/article.jhtml
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:39 PM
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10. Oh Boy
I guess only the Exxon/Mobile & Coke security services get to have back-up.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:15 PM
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17. Aristide's phone calls from Africa have been cut off...
I heard this a while ago on MSRNC. Seems Aristide's lawyer in Miami can't reach him any longer at his African "retreat".
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:19 PM
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18. in an old French colony... of all places.... n/t
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:38 PM
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24. Yes, ... Arisitide is "free" and staying there of his own free will
yeah right.

No phone calls. I wonder if reporters can travel there to interview the free Aristide. Somehow, I think not.
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