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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:49 PM
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CNN Breaking: Marge Schott Dies...
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 02:59 PM by alg0912
Fmr Cincinnati Reds owner Marge Schott has died...

Marge Schott, controversial Reds owner, dies

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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:50 PM
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1. Hey Margie! Don't forget to say hello to Strom Thumond down in hell for us
nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:01 PM
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:03 PM
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8. Wait till Reagan dies...
Then it'll get UGLY here... :(
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:08 PM
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9. I won't be around
The tone at DU has gotten as bad as Free Republic in most threads.

I already decided not to renew my membership here and will only come around to check on latest news stories.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:22 PM
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13. ya think?
the freepers will be out in record numbers!
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:31 PM
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15. I've been waiting for that day myself.
I'm partying like it's 1999 all over again. No not that bad but I won't share any tears for that son of a bitch.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:26 PM
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14. Were their words for her
as favorable as her words for Adolf Hitler?
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:57 PM
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21. Favorable as her words for Adolf Hitler?
Talk about distorting what someone has said.

Schott, a German, made the statement that Hitler was good for Germany at first. She also added that he went crazy with power (or some such).

Care to provide proof that Hitler wasn't good for Germany at first?

You can't, because technically, he was.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:09 PM
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28. I agree
But it's not really a PC position. After having studied Germany and its history at length, I found that Hitler brought the country back from the brink of catastrophe after WWI. It's the primary reason why most Germans supported him, and they still supported him after things started getting ugly, because by then, they were in too far and too deep to get out.

However, we don't have to like him to say that and we don't have to live with that choice. Some people will condemn anyone who in any way supports that position.
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progressiverealist Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:55 PM
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2. one less racist in the world.
Say hi to Strom indeed.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:57 PM
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3. ding dong the bitch is dead...good riddance
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:02 PM
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30. She was a miserable old bag
I grew up near Dayton and I can safely say that Marge Schott was the most hated person in the state of Ohio. She almost single-handedly ruined the most venerated baseball team ever.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:07 PM
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31. I was in Cincinnati
about ten yrs ago and a sports store was selling t-shirts that said "Schott Happens". Hilarious.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:58 PM
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4. Marge and Leni Riefenstahl and swap stories and have
'kaffee und kuchen'.

Buh-bye.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:58 PM
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5. My gramma always said...
My gramma always said that if I didn't have anything nice to say to not say it all. I usually ignored that, heh, but this is one of the cases I'll bite my tongue.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:01 PM
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7. Marge was racist as everyone on this thread says --
-- she was -- a cultural dinosaur, no question. But the Sports Illustrated article was a smear job. One of the shabbiest pieces of journalism I've ever seen. No fan of Marge, I think the males who owned ballclubs should have been held to the same standard by that S.I. article. They weren't.
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progressiverealist Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:09 PM
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10. Al Campanis was equally racist and will land in the same ring of hell as
Schott
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:21 PM
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12. Thank you, progressiverealist --
-- I was thinking of ol' Al when I typed my response.

(And a few others besides out Oakland way...)
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:36 PM
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33. They were both THROWBACKS
to the simpler times --ie; the 1850's ---before the slaves were freed.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:11 PM
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11. "Men who wear earrings are fruits"
Nice knowin' ya Marge.

On second thought, no.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:32 PM
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16. She would pass out Nazi armbands at cockail parties,
and refer to her black players as "Million Dollar Niggers".
Fuck her and I hope she burn for all eternity.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:34 PM
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17. They gonna bury her at a crossroads?
How much cremation gas does it take to make that much shit burn?
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:45 PM
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18. When you get to hell
Say hello to George Wallace and Strom Thurmond.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:55 PM
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20. At Least George Wallace Learned His Lesson Later In Life
Something Marge and Strom never learned.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:50 PM
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19. marge was 100% ignorant
she didn't mean ill. she really didn't. she was raised 100% bigoted german catholic cincinnati.

she said things my irish cincinnati grandfather said. she was just naive enough to say them to the national media. conservative, segregated cincinnati, ignorance & money are a terrible combination.

let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

RIP marge, may you find enlightenment.
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:23 PM
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25. no need to apologize for racists...
"She didn't mean ill?" A middle-aged woman in 1992 refers to two black players on her team as "millon dollar niggers" and you think she didn't mean ill? What planet do you live on?
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:39 PM
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27. now, i live on a different planet than she did.
she lived in cincinnati her whole life. where do you live? not cincinnati. you forget that rascist terms like nigger, kraut, mick, dago, kike, etc. were used by every class of people, rascist, bigot, or not, before ww2. my grandfather called his best friends krauts, kikes & dagos. in cincinnati, that era lasted until, hmmm, probably 1970.

i don't excuse her predjudice, but you're expecting too much of that generation. thankfully, they are nearly all dead.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:40 PM
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22. She wasn't a racist, she was "tough-talking"
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 04:42 PM by Democat
Read the articles about her death, they portray her as a "tough talking" woman, not a racist.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:49 PM
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23. she was a nasty piece of work
VERY racist, very ugly.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:56 PM
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24. It's a dark day
(pun intended) for supremacists everywhere...
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:32 PM
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26. How about we focus on the good things....
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 05:33 PM by Sean Reynolds
Like the fact she gave MILLIONS to children and pet causes.

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/03/03/loc_schott.kids.html

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Avalon Sparks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:35 PM
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29. True, Sean R.
Tax records reveal that Schott donated millions of dollars to charities that help educate, nurture and provide children with a safe place to play. St. Ursula Academy, the Dan Beard Boy Scout Council, St. Rita School for the Deaf, the National Coalition for the Protection of Children and Families and the Greater Cincinnati Girls and Boys Club: All were beneficiaries of her altruism.



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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 09:39 PM
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35. On the top of that list is St. Ursula Academy, a very exclusive
prep school. Her contribution helped to keep rich girls, whose parents can afford outrageous tuition, even more coddled. The other charities on the list are worthwhile but it is interesting that she was most generous to an institution that keeps the riffraff away from the privileged.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:29 PM
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32. She gets NO RIP
from me I won't be a hipocrite...one less racist. :evilfrown:


Please excuse any spelling errors, spellcheck not working for me today. :-(
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:38 PM
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34. GAH! that FACE!
They say you can't judge a book by its cover, but in this case...yeeessh.
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