Cheney Says Aristide Had Worn Out Welcome

[eablair3]

Cheney Says Aristide Had Worn Out Welcome
Tue Mar 2, 2004 12:53 PM ET

By Steve Holland
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Vice President Dick Cheney said on Tuesday Jean-Bertrand Aristide had "worn out his welcome" as Haiti's president but that the United States did not force him to leave as he claims.

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Cheney made clear the United States had lost patience with Aristide in the 10 years since helping him regain power. Some members of the Congressional Black Caucus have accused the Bush administration of allowing the toppling of a democratically elected government in Haiti.

"The fact of the matter was, that Mr. Aristide had worn out his welcome. He was democratically elected but he didn't govern in a democratic manner and had reached the point where clearly the opposition groups, rebels, were increasingly successful at undermining his authority," Cheney said.

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http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=4480499

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Well, ... Dick sounds like a true supporter of democracy.

If the opposition groups were that successful and so numerous, ...how come they couldn't just vote him out in the next elections ... Aristide is the one who offered to have elections, and the opposition and rebels refused.

[Hamlette]

1. well, he should know

...takes one to know one

[LeftCoast]

2. Cheney could be describing his own administration...

Oh...sorry, I forgot...protests here are just "focus groups"...

:eyes:

[el_gato]

3. wore out his welcome with the IMF

[pinto]

9. preeeecisely....n/t

[bobbieinok]

4. bobbieinok says Bush-Cheney have 'worn out welcome'

...

[wicket]

5. So have he and Bush

But they weren't welcome in the first place.

[Say_What]

6. Typical of the Bush junta--attack Aristide and keep him incommunicado

until the sh*t storm dies down some. Wonder what kind of diversion they're gonna come up with to direct the sheeples attention elsewhere. More bombs in Iraq, Osama nearly caught, Sadam dies, Kerry with an intern--oh I forgot, they tried that already--any number of things could happen at this point.

[eablair3]

26. you're likely right

attack and malign Aristide. Villify him. Especially at a time when Aristide can't or is not allowed to respond.

Where's the face-to-face live (or even videotaped) interview of Aristide by the some media? Why can't the media visit him, if he fled willingly and is a free man? What about his wife? She was not shy in talking to the media?

[Say_What]

31. Amazing how they can kidnap the leader of a country and nobody

seems to want to follow up and find out the real story. Where's the press for Keeerist's sake? Oh I forgot, they're bought and paid for and only say/do what they're told.

Mildred Aristide is indeed not shy about talking to the media. She's also a US citizen, which might make this real dicey for the Bushies. I heard an interview with her on Democracy Now last Friday--anyone interested can find it at their website www.democracynow.org

NarcoNews has a pretty good blog going with all the articles posted in one place.

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/story/2004/2/29/162328/211

[Bonhomme Richard]

7. Great new bumper sticker

BUSH - He's Worn Out His Welcome

[enough]

10. Beautiful. (NT)

.

[Room101]

8. "Ignorance is strength" - "Freedom is slavery" War is peace"

Really, is their anything else one can say? :crazy:

[Lindsay]

11. The words pot,

kettle and black come to mind.

[Tinoire]

12. Whose effing welcome? The US now decides who the President of Haiti

will be?

Strike that. We all know they do, and have, and will continue to do so. I just like to have it in black and white.

Thanks

[Don Claybrook]

13. Do the innocent synchronize their talking points?

On issue after issue, lie after lie, various members of the Bush Administration use the same talking points and the same idiotic buzz words. Does everyone remember intelligence 'chatter'? You can find case after case of this happening.

And yesterday, our good friend Colin Powell said that Aristide was democratically-elected, but that his government was a failure. Big Dick says basically the same thing today.

Here's my question: have you ever seen truth-tellers having to synchronize their message this tightly? Didn't think so. Dick Cheney is LYING. AGAIN. No surprise to anyone here, but I thought I'd point out that this is just one more way to confirm what you already knew.

[pinto]

16. isn't there am investigative standard if all suspects say exactly the same

thing, they're lying? or at least rehearsing. maybe I've watched one too many L&O's, but these folks sure seem to use the exact same term any time something comes up.

[peacetalksforall]

21. They did come up with a new word, never used before by them...

they said they were repatriating the boat people. The only problem was that the Haitians were still at the shoreline. They said were repatriating instead of telling it like it was - it was/is a blockade. (You are repatriated when you leave/have to leave a country to return to your own country). Right?

So they come up with a new word and it doesn't even apply.

Hey Resident Deficit - the word is blockade.

[tedzbear]

40. Powell & Cheney: What an excellent example of hypocrisy.

"And yesterday, our good friend Colin Powell said that Aristide was democratically-elected, but that his government was a failure. Big Dick says basically the same thing today."


Well guys, Dubya's government is a failure AND he wasn't even elected! He was appointed by our Repug-licking Supreme Court. Does that mean us peeps at DU can kidnap him and shoot him off to Africa?


Without a doubt Aristide is the better man if only because HE WAS ELECTED.

:bounce:

[eablair3]

14. CHENEY COMMENTS ON WOLF BLITZER

courtesy of my tivo from an appearance a few minutes ago

BLITZER: Let's move on and talk about Haiti. This is a critical issue. Former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide accusing the Bush Administration of effectively orchestrating a coup against him. You're smiling, ....

VP CHENEY: Well, I've dealt with Aristide before, ... uh, when I was Secretary of Defense, .. we had a crisis involving Haiti. He left of his own free will. He signed a resignation letter on his way out. He left with his security detail on an aircraft we provided, not a military aircraft, but a civilian charter. Um, ... now, ... uh, ... I suppose he's trying to revise history, but the fact of the matter is that he'd worn out his welcome with the Haitian people. He was democratically elected, but he never governed as a democrat. He was corrupt. He was in charge of the thugs that were committing crimes in Port-Au-Prince shortly before he left. But, the suggestion that somehow the United States arrested him or forcibly put him on an aircraft to get him to leave -- that's simply not true.

BLITZER: So, you're happy he's gone?

VP CHENEY: I'm happy he's gone. I think the Haitian people are better off for it. I think they now have an opportunity to elect a new government and that's how it should be.

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Incredible.

[Art_from_Ark]

20. Dear Mr. Cheney

The American people will be far better off when you're gone. I'm looking forward to the opportunity to elect a new government and that's how it should be.

[Judi Lynn]

22. "They now have an opportunity to elect a new government???"

Oh, REALLY? Just like the opportunity they had when they elected President Aristide?

A normal person trying to pass off that kind of wickedness would worry about lightening striking him dead, or getting some similar "wake up call."

[Qutzupalotl]

30. That's a great quote for the scrapbook:

"He never governed as a democrat. He was corrupt."
--Dick Cheney on Aristide

[eablair3]

37. sounds like an epitaph for Bush, Cheney and Co.

it fits for so many in the Bush Admin.

[Judi Lynn]

15. Oh, Cheney, you're such a cut-up!

(snip) "The fact of the matter was, that Mr. Aristide had worn out his welcome. He was democratically elected but he didn't govern in a democratic manner and had reached the point where clearly the opposition groups, rebels, were increasingly successful at undermining his authority," Cheney said. (snip)

How could he say that with a straight face?

From the same Reuters article:

Connecticut Democratic Sen. Christopher Dodd accused the Bush administration of being "complicit in watching a democratically elected government have to leave office."

He told CNN on Monday night that Aristide had been given a choice.

"The fact of the matter is, we said to President Aristide: Look, you can you stay and be killed or you can leave; you make the choice. That's hardly a voluntary departure," he said.
(snip)

I'm tempted to believe Christopher Dodd, for some reason.

[peacetalksforall]

17. Worn out his welcome?

Worn out his welcome? What kind of bs is that. Whose welcome?

We now decide and dictate which President of which country has worn out his welcome?

Wouldn't you like to see the priority list of these PNACers and their cabal and which Presidents will be unwelcome next - by their stroke of imperialistic order?

1. Hussein
1a. Hussein son #1
1b Hussein son #2
2. Aristede
3. Castro?
4. Chavez?
5. your choice
6. your choice

[peacetalksforall]

18. Notice Bin Laden is not on the list.

[tom_paine]

19. If Cheney is telling the truth, then maybe Hitler was, too.

:silly: :crazy: :freak: :puke:

[NeoConsSuck]

23. Worn out welcome? How would Cheney know?

I didn't think he involved himself in countries that didn't have vast oil reserves.

[Thaddeus]

24. Cheney is a reliable fascist

We can rely on him to say unconscionable things like that.

We can just as easily say that the Bush/cheney regime has out worn its welcome.

Kick the plutocrats out!

[TankLV]

25. Let's see - Gore got over 500,000 more votes...

Aristide won by over 90% the first time, 70-80% the last time, but he has "no legitimacy".

So, based on his own assessment, how much legitimacy does HE have?

Oh, I forgot - we are expected to "get over" the US election fraud just over 3 years ago, but we are at the same time also expected to remember and react to every fucking thing that happened to persons THEY don't appove-of over 10, 15 or 20 years ago!

NOW I understand!

Do their heads spin even a bit? Do they even hear what they say from one moment to the next?

They must be awful goddamn sure of their retaining power indefinitely!

[alarimer]

27. The rebels are hardly democrats

I have read in some places that some of them are former member of the Tonton Macoutes, Duvalier's secret gang of thugs. So what now, Mr. Cheney?

[daleo]

28. Some time in 2005?

"The fact of the matter was, that Mr. Kerry had worn out his welcome. He was democratically elected but he didn't govern in a democratic manner and had reached the point where clearly the opposition groups, rebels, were increasingly successful at undermining his authority," Cheney said.

Put nothing past them.

[eablair3]

29. yeah, it's more than kind of scary

Cheney determines which leader of a foreign country has "worn out his welcome" --- and then the military is sent in to remove that leader.

hmmmm

scary.

[Say_What]

32. Shades of 1939.... n/t

[teryang]

33. This is the same liar

...who said that he was certain that Iraq had tons of chemical and biological weapons, that a the nations of the world would rally to support our invasion of Iraq; and that the Iraqis would welcome our invasion. His statements are invariably and intentionally false.

I don't consider this lying facist an authoritative source on foreign policy. The only reason he is vice-president apart from the coup is because he covered up G.H.W.B's involvement in the unconstitutional and criminal activity related to Iran-Contra.

[Imalittleteapot]

34. …were increasingly successful?

"…the opposition groups, rebels, were increasingly successful at undermining his authority," Cheney said.
Increasingly successful with Cheney's help, no doubt. Cheney never saw a coup opportunity that he didn't like.

[LSparkle]

35. Powell got the talking points

The Puppetmaster is putting words in everyone's mouths -- Powell obeys particularly well (spouted this almost verbatim). Aristide never GOT a welcome to wear out -- just a cold shoulder.

[BigBigBear]

36. Can you say

"pregnant with irony"?

[nolabels]

38. Dick you never were welcome

Goodnight now

[tedzbear]

39. Whose welcome???

Since when is Cheney Haiti's master??????????

[erpowers]

41. Who gave Dick Cheney the Right

I would like to know who gave Dick Cheney the right to decide when someone has worn out their welcome with the people who elected them. Cheney in an appearance on Wolf Blitzer say he was "pleased" that Aristide was gone. Why should Dick Cheney have to approve of the leader of another country. It is apalling to see someone so boldly say they a pleased with the result of a coup of a democraticly elected leader. Futhermore, why aren't more in the media more upset that a VP agreed with the overthrowing of a leader of a country

[ignatius]

43. It is unbelievable and totally outrageous, this guy is really

Dr. Evil and Dr. Strangelove rolled into one bizarre package without the humor.

"The universe is MINE."

Sad, sickening and totally disgusting, who gives him the right, indeed. Has any administration created so much chaos in such a short time?

[bushisanidiot]

42. Cheney Doesn't Know a damned thing about Haiti, cuz there's no

oil there.

he and president shitferbrains can't even find it on a map.

[annagull]

44. This from "the VIP who wouldn't LEAVE!!"

Even Bush can't get rid of him!

[Darranar]

45. This is the administration...

we're supposed to be trusting to bring democracy to Iraq.

[bobthedrummer]

46. Cheney is a war profiteer

:puke: