Families of WTC victims angered at Bush campaign ads (Exploiting the dead)

[NNN0LHI]

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-ny--attacks-bush-ads0304mar04,0,143901.story?coll=ny-ap-regional-wire

NEW YORK (AP) _ Some families of the victims of the Sept. 11 terrorist attack are angered at President Bush for using campaign commercials that showed images of ground zero, accusing him of using the attack for his own political gain.

"It's a slap in the face of the murders of 3,000 people," Monica Gabrielle, whose husband died in the twin towers, told the Daily News in Thursday editions. "It is unconscionable."

The first three campaign ads, unveiled at campaign headquarters in suburban Washington, will run on broadcast channels in about 80 markets in 18 states, most of which are expected to be competitive, and nationwide on select cable networks.

Two of the spots show pictures of the destruction at the World Trade Center and include pictures of an American flag flying amid the debris. They also feature images of firefighters working through the wreckage.

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[JoFerret]

1. It is outrageous

and those people have the voice to protest it. At the same time perhaps they could demand the Bush Co cooperate fully with the inquiry commission.

[symbolman]

56. Here's the link to my flash movie work

called "Bush Knew - An American Requiem" -- it shows on a split screen Bush sitting on his ass for half an hour KNOWING we were under attack and doing NOTHING...

maybe he could explain this to the Commission..

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/true911.html

Let if load and pass it around..

[Qutzupalotl]

65. Good stuff, symbolman!

The splitscreen part is especially telling. I hope it can be made into a 15 or 30 second spot for TV!

[symbolman]

72. I'm working on that..

also want to include new information -- like links for the families, etc..

[lebkuchen]

73. One of the best

The Cheshire cat grin on Bush's face while carnage is taking place qualifies him for the Broadmoor Psychiatric Center for the Criminally Insane.

[Just Me]

103. Wow!!! Like holy-shitsky!!!

That is so powerful and impactful!!! I am impressed beyond expression. I am passing this "keeper" on,...and am hoping to archive it if I can.

[dArKeR]

107. 'I would vote for Saddam Hussein before I would vote for Bush' - Reuters

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=3&art_id=qw1078444441762B251&set_id=1

[Disturbed]

2. Bushco

They obviously have zero respect for the families of those who perished and the fire fighters.

[imax2268]

3. basically...

a slap in the face of all the families who lost loved ones...

[central scrutinizer]

36. They are a "focus group"

just like the millions that protested before the invasion of Iraq. To quote * "Who cares what you think?"

[DoYouEverWonder]

4. What a great way to start of your reselection campaign

by pissing everybody off. Way to go W. Keep up the good work.

[Cooley Hurd]

5. Cactus Jack Cafferty is featuring this today on CNN....

...and they have Maude Findlay (she's baaaack!) on defending the ads against 9/11/ families and the Firefighter's Union.

[Tuttle]

6. We need to organize:

We've got to find out where these ads are airing and call the LOCAL affliates and demand they not be shown! If CBS can nix an ad from MoveOn.org, they we ought to be able to complain, loudly and boycott stations that take money from these sickos.

If we could get media coverage of organized demonstrations, that would be doublt effective because you KNOW they will say "The ad is already paid for..." or "We buy blocks of ads..."

Can symbolman or takebackthemedia.com honcho some of this?

This will be great! I can't wait to see the wimps spin this into something even more devastating...

Tut-tut

[JustAmused]

11. An opportunity

I believe though that we can turn this into a big issue. Since they are making this so big so early, we might want to simply ask repeatedly and insistently if * would take the time to tell the commision in detail of his bravery and leadership that day....*grin*. I have put this bug in the ear of several friends at work with good results.

[Qutzupalotl]

66. That's the ticket!

"Why was our steady leader hiding in a hole in Nebraska on 9/11?"

[NashVegas]

24. NO no no no no

Let them air. People WILL see it for the shameless pandering it is and let 'em have it.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

49. Agreed. Let Americans remember Bush*s biggest security FAILURE. n/t

[GoddessOfGuinness]

67. Absolutely...

Let the families of the victims complain loudly and at length.

I'll settle for feeling simple outrage. Let Dumbyass cook his own goose!

[KenLayedOff]

92. Most people need it pointed out to them why they are bad

People won't think about the 911 angle and will buy into the soft sell.

It's our duty to educate these sheeple why they need to look at the ad as abusive.

[catzies]

95. Welcome to DU, KenLayedOff!

:hi:

Darned funny handle ya got yourself there!

[NashVegas]

106. Why Do That

When you can have a 527 group make a spot showing people how Bush hid on 911?

Show, don't tell. The law of all good drama.

[libview]

88. Why the fuck would we do that????

let them hang themselves

[pinniped]

7. Someone needs to put chimp's "I won't politicize 9/11" comments...

into a commercial with AWOL AHOLE's new ad running in a split-screen format.

[csw77]

63. Link

Is there a link on him saying that he wouldn't use 9/11 for political reasons? I KNOW he said it but I would love to use the link for something.

[Just Me]

104. Yes. Allow the evil propagandists do their thing,..then, counter,...

,...with FACTS, FACTS, FACTS,...and how horrendous it is that they would betray and manipulate the loyality and trust of the American people with their evil Machiavellian caa caa!!!!

[PsychoDad]

8. Does the campaign ad state....

"9/11 - Brought to you by George Dubyah Bush."

??

[NNN0LHI]

10. In them Junior says I am president Bush and I have approved these ads n/t

[Shoedogg]

9. Bah....

...all that needs to be done is to point out that these ads should actually remind people who was at the helm when our greatest security breach ever took place.

[MI Cherie]

12. Their shameless exploitation of 9/11 ...

... is absolutely offensive and disgusting. This should backfire "big time"!

[underpants]

14. KAren Hughes "9/11 was not a tragedy but a shared experience"

About and hour ago in a taped interview on the Today Show. I have a thread in GD on it.

[Minstrel Boy]

16. Just let these people keep talking and pretty soon

they'll take credit for it.

Which would be the first honest thing they've said.

[FlashHarry]

13. Really, is anyone surprised? Par for the course, if you ask me. N/T

[underpants]

15. My wife this morning:"They need to get some of the widows out there..."

and let's hear what they have to say about these ads."

Honey they are already on it.

[mindfulNJ]

17. I'm pretty encouraged by the ad...

It's shameful, exploitative, insensitive and arrogant, and its pissing people off already! Can you say "BACKFIRE"? Bring it on ,George, bring it on!

[R Hickey]

18. Bush has the gall to run these ads, but obstructs the investigation

Bush's SEC white-washed the investigation into the suspicious stock transactions.

Also, Bush hid many pages of material printed in the first 9/11 investigation. Why doesn't he reveal those pages in his TV ads, if he he's so proud of himself in this 9/11 event?

[latebloomer]

19. It's about all he has going for him

"Look at me, I put on a hard hat and had a photo op in the smoldering ruins! I'm not a leader, but i play one on TV!"

[xultar]

20. They exploit WTC dead but won't show DEAD SOLDIERS RETURN HOME !

:grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr::grr::nuke::grr:

[RedEarth]

21. Bush/Rove and the majority of repubs are cold-blooded,

and mean-spirited people. They will stoop to any level...makes no difference to them. However, this ad will come back and haunt them. They struck the wrong nerve with the wrong people....the 911 families.

[democrank]

22. If Bush really cared

wouldn`t he have done everything in his power to cooperate with the 9/11 investigative panel? These ads are just another example of Bush`s willingness to use anything....ANYTHING....to blow his own horn.He sickens me.

[NashVegas]

23. Let Them Air Let Them Air Let Them AIR

It's called rope, and this administration should be allowed to hang themselves on it.

[Whoa_Nelly]

25. This news was on GMA this morning

and immediately following that report, as well as the quote re: slap in the face, Diane Saywer did a telecom interview with that sycophant weasalette, Karen Hughes.

Personally, I feel because Karen presented herself as so defensive of * and his use of exploiting 9/11, as well as so anti-Kerry, that it could have done more good than harm for the Dems.

[bushisanidiot]

26. Rove Is Using AWOL's WORST Failure As President As A Campaign Prop

president dipshit TOTALLY and COMPLETELY failed to protect us on 9/11. He did exactly NOTHING to intercept those planes. He had ample time to make a command decision and instead, he read a friggin children's book then ran off on AF1 to get out of harms way. He wouldn't even go to the white house to check on his family. What a friggin' PUSSY!

Yeah, Rove. Keep showing those 9/11 pics. It just reminds american voters of how AWOL Failed!

[malachi]

38. Right you are!

My thoughts exactly. I couldn't have stated it better. 9/11 is indicative of a FAILURE to protect. If I can figure this out, and I'm no friggin' genius, I'm hoping that more and more people will arrive at this conclusion and send the chimp back to texas for the rest of his natural born life.

[Beetwasher]

27. FIREFIGHTERS Are Pissed Off Too!

Fire Fighters President Says Use of Fire Fighter Images in New Bush Ads Smack of Political Opportunism

WASHINGTON, March 3 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The General President of the International Association of Fire Fighters, AFL-CIO (IAFF), Harold Schaitberger, issued the following statement today after President Bush unveiled new political ads that use images of fire fighters in September 11, 2001 attacks for political gain:

-- As Bush Trades on Heroism of Fire Fighters, His Homeland Security Funding Cuts Hurt Fire Fighters and Communities --

--snip--

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=155-03032004

[sonias]

28. A slap in the face and it is unconscionable

Like Monica Gabrielle says in the story, but that's all this regime knows how to do. Exploiting for political and economic gain is their whole game plan. These families should expect no better. I'm sure she is well aware that the repuke national convention will play more on ground zero. If she thinks this ad is bad, wait til the convention.

As much as these families have suffered they need to keep involved and make sure we get a regime change in Nov. Keep speaking up against this crass exploitation.

I liked the comment of one poster above "9/11 - brought to you by the Bush Administration". That would be a more truthful ad.

Sonia

[libview]

29. come on people, what did you expect?

unfortunatly, this is only going to piss off the people who were not going to vote for him anyway, and shore up his base for such an obvious slap in the face to Democrats.

[Beetwasher]

30. What Bullshit, This Is All You Need to Know

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=155-03032004

Only moronic bushbots don't/won't find the ads in poor taste...

Of course we expected him to pull this crap, doesn't make it any more palatable...

It's OK with you though, huh? Gee, I wonder why...

[libview]

33. what is your problem?

I never said it was ok with me, all I'm saying is why is everyone acting so surprised?
Are you accusing me of something?

[Beetwasher]

34. Just Making an Observation

You also didn't say it wasn't ok w/ you...But you seem to be obliquely defending the ads...Why is that? What's YOUR problem?

Do you think the ads are appropriate?

[TroglodyteScholar]

39. Whoa, easy there, Hoss...

It's clear to me that he was just saying there's nothing surprising about this tactic. Were you expecting Bush to run a completely tasteful campaign with no references to his "heroic" handling of Sept. 11?

And, no, I'm not okay with it either. But I never thought for an instant that he wouldn't try to capitalize on the tragedy that happened on his watch.

[Beetwasher]

41. Not Clear To Me

I think the poster should speak for himself. You say you're not OK w/ it either, that's good. The other poster has yet to make that clear or answer that question. You can't answer for him.

I'm not surprised they're doing this, but I don't think this is just going to piss off people who wouldn't vote for him anyway.

[TroglodyteScholar]

42. Feeling a bit touchy?

The poster already did speak for himself. You seem like you're just looking for someone to attack.

I also think that this will mostly only disgust those of us who are already against Bush. Think about it...If you're a flag-waving sheep who thinks Bush has been a great president, why would you be offended by images of 9/11 in his campaign ads? I mean, in their view, 9/11 is what turned him into the uncompromising hero that they view him as. To gloss over it would be to overlook his "strong leadership."

[Beetwasher]

44. Why Do You Feel the Need To Speak For Him?

The poster did NOT answer the question.

You're wrong, this will not only disgust those already against Bush. It's already backfiring. Pay attention.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1192640&mesg_id=1192640&page=

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/170291p-148587c.html

Fire Fighters President Says Use of Fire Fighter Images in New Bush Ads Smack of Political Opportunism

WASHINGTON, March 3 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The General President of the International Association of Fire Fighters, AFL-CIO (IAFF), Harold Schaitberger, issued the following statement today after President Bush unveiled new political ads that use images of fire fighters in September 11, 2001 attacks for political gain:

-- As Bush Trades on Heroism of Fire Fighters, His Homeland Security Funding Cuts Hurt Fire Fighters and Communities --

--snip--

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=155-03032004

This subject is one that is very personal to me and for very good reason.

[TroglodyteScholar]

46. I'm not speaking FOR anybody

I just think you're being a bit dim. I'm sorry if it's personal to you, but just because someone doesn't condemn the tactic explicitly enough to please you...doesn't mean you ought to go on the offensive. I mean, how silly is this...you're essentially saying that because he didn't precisely state "this is terrible and all of bush's supporters will turn on him now" he is somehow an ultraconservative stooge.

Take your aggression & use it against someone who's earned it.

On edit: Are you trying to say that the AFL-CIO are big Bush supporters who somehow decided to change their minds over this??? Don't tell me to pay attention when you've chosen to ignore every point I've made and instead opt for entirely emotional responses.

[Name removed]

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[TroglodyteScholar]

53. LOL

Again, you ignored and/or twisted what I said. I made the valid point that it will *MOSTLY* only offend those of us who already don't support Bush. I ALSO said that it's hardly a surprise that the AFL-CIO would be offended...THEY WERE NOT BUSH SUPPORTERS TO BEGIN WITH. People like you are the reason that Rethugs ever have a solid argument against us. You're entirely driven by your emotions and everything is black & white.

Get over yourself and seek some counseling. You've clearly got a lot of unaddressed issues.

I'm done with this BS.

[Name removed]

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[NickB79]

61. Sorry Beetwasher

After reading through this thread, you are the one beginning to look like a fool, IMHO. When I read libview's post, I in no way saw any kind of Bush support in it; he seemed to be saying we shouldn't be suprised someone as low as Bush would pull something like this. I don't know how you misinterpretted it, but I didn't see any Bush sympathy there. When a new poster points out how he doesn't see it either, you jump on him with obvious anger that doesn't seem warranted.

BTW, welcome to DU Concerned GA Voter :-)

[Beetwasher]

62. You're Entitled To Your Opinion, Don't Be Sorry About It

I disagreed w/ his opinion that it would ONLY piss off people who weren't going to vote for him anyway. That's bullshit as is evidenced by all the links I posted.

He still never answered my question about what he thought about the ads. Odd that.

I didn't misinterpret anything. As I said, it seemed to me he was obliquely defending the ads, and he was.

[TroglodyteScholar]

76. Maybe he doesn't check this forum every 3 minutes

Looks like half of your irrational rage got deleted. Here's an idea...when you're in a hole, quit digging.

[Beetwasher]

78. Here's Another Idea

Put up or shut up. Still waiting for you to make a point. Got one?

[TroglodyteScholar]

82. Yea

I have a great point. Get laid, nutcase. I can't believe you're busting blood vessels over an anonoymous person's opinion.

Pathetic.

[Beetwasher]

83. Just As I Figured

More empty blathering. Still no point...

[NashVegas]

93. I Disagree, Too

But that's no reason to jump on someone's case.

[Zhade]

69. I have to agree, Beetwasher flew off the handle and attacked libview.

NT!

[Beetwasher]

75. FYI, Some other Hit and Run Post by Our "Liberal" "Friend"

Defending laws against gay marriage:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=394499

Defending the Aristide coup:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1181875#1182390

Slandering Howard Stern:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1192282#1193421

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1189365#1189407

Dissing Edwards:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=37471

Do you see a pattern?

[TroglodyteScholar]

77. Jebus H. Cripsers

You know, a person can have views that differ from yours and still be a liberal.

By your reasoning, all liberals must agree with gay marriage, be against the Aristide coup, love Howard Stern (who, btw, is an arrogant pig who JUST RECENTLY got a clue), and love Edwards.

Sorry, beetwasher, but some liberals are going to disagree with you from time to time. That doesn't stop them from being liberals.

You're fighting against something that makes the Dem party so much more attractive than the Repugs: the fact that we are an open-minded, wide-ranging, and accepting bunch. The only pattern I see is you childishly flaming anyone who doesn't consistently agree with your own views.

[Beetwasher]

79. Not Fighting Against Anything

Just calling things as I see them.

If I think your opinion is bullshit, I'm gonna say so. If you or anyone else can't handle, too friggin' bad.

At least I back up my opinions with something else other than empty blathering.

[TroglodyteScholar]

81. Backup

Yep, empty blathering and unchecked angry outbursts. Congrats, I bet you were tops on your highschool debate team.

I can't help but feel sorry for you...that you believe you are absolutely right about everything simply because you can link a news page and spew some obscenities.

"Screw your opinion, I have an f-word and a link to Yahoo! News that prove you absolutely wrong! Not only that, but I can namecall more effectively than any of the kids I knew in middle school!!!"
:eyes:

[Beetwasher]

84. You Say This After Your Post #82

That's rich!

"I have a great point. Get laid, nutcase. I can't believe you're busting blood vessels over an anonoymous person's opinion.

Pathetic."

Still waiting for a point...

[Zhade]

80. Yes. I see a pattern of you attacking others on this thread.

Which is exactly why two of your messages got pulled - I alerted on them for the personal attacks. I'm sure others did as well.

You really should just calm down. Your anger is not conducive to constructive debate. No one was attacking you, and I don't see why you decided to attack others.

[Beetwasher]

85. Too Bad

I call bullshit when I see it. I'll remain unapologetic about it.

When someone dismisses other people's anger over these disgusting ads and the blatant exploitation of 9/11 I find that offensive. It's personal to me.

[Zhade]

87. Yes, well, apparently you're also unapologetic about spewing bullshit.

But that's you problem. It's pretty clear to others on this thread that you blew up at a poster for no reason. Deal with it.

[Beetwasher]

89. Not My Problem

Your the one who has a problem w/ me apparently, and I could care less...You're entitled to your opinion though and to alert as many of my posts as you find problematic, it's certainly your perogative...

You're very selective in the posts you alert BTW. I guess only I'm not allowed to get away w/ perceived personal attacks :shrug:

[Zhade]

94. I've actually never had a problem with you.

I still don't. I just didn't appreciate the way you attacked others here (and it's not a perception, it's a fact) and then kept attacking when people called you on it.

Apparently the moderators agreed with this conclusion.

[Beetwasher]

96. You Sure Are Selective

in what you appreciate and what you don't. This is ok w/ you?

"I have a great point. Get laid, nutcase."

:shrug:

Personally, I won't alert on it because it's not my style and I could care less. I guess consistency isn't one of your strong suits though...

As far as your "fact", my initial post remains, so obviously the Mods didn't feel I was attacking anyone.

Glad to hear you don't have a problem w/ me and never did though, coulda fooled me...

[Zhade]

97. "I have a great point. Get laid, nutcase."

Wha? I don't follow that one at all. What are you talking about?

"You Sure Are Selective in what you appreciate and what you don't."

Again, this is your opinion. You're welcome to believe this, even if I don't agree with your interpretation.

"I guess consistency isn't one of your strong suits though..."

Once again, your opinion, does not necessarily reflect reality.

[Beetwasher]

98. The Reality Is

You alert my posts for what you percieve to be personal attacks, but not the other posters very obvious personal attacks on me. Not opinion, fact. And the fact is, you ARE selective in your net-copping which means you are not consistent. Not opinion, fact.

The first ad-hominem in this thread was directed at me by another poster calling me dim (#46). That didn't seem to bother you either.

That's what I'm talking about. See post #82. Obviously you didn't read the whole thread.

Inconsistent, selective and hypocritical. Deal with it.

[libview]

99. man, it must suck being you.

cheer up man, lifes not that bad.

[Beetwasher]

101. I See You're Still Not Able To Defend Your Position

Figures...

Have you heard? Lot's of people are pissed off about the ads and Bush is probably pulling them.

Guess you were wrong, though you'll never admit it. Pathetic.

[libview]

110. I will not defend my position to you, why should I.

Who do you think you are, othere than someone of little importance, that tries to feel big by attacking others. Kinda like that bully in school.
I choose to ignore you from now on.

[Zhade]

100. Well, I can hardly be the hall monitor for the thread.

At the time I alerted on your posts, the "get laid nutcase" post had not been posted. So you are correct, I had not read it, because the post did not yet exist.

Considering you attacked libview first, which then caused another poster to label you as "dim", I do believe you are "Inconsistent, selective and hypocritical". You started the personal attacks, and that's a clearly established fact. All one has to do is read the thread. Your attack appears first.

Believe what you want. I'm done with you.

[Beetwasher]

102. And Yet, You Are Trying to Be the Hall Monitor

And doing a shitty job of it...

If I attacked that poster, the Mods certainly didn't think so...

[mindfulNJ]

31. I volunteer the use of this pic

for shrub's website:

[underpants]

32. Maybe they can SELL that one too.

http://www.buzzflash.com/editorial/2002/09/06_Bush_911.html
A BuzzFlash Editorial

With September 11th approaching and the prospect of Bush using the anniversary events to make political gains for his ailing ratings, we thought it would be important to show how Bush has previously used the tragedy of 9-11 to advance his far-right political agenda and, most despicably, to make a quick buck for the GOP.

In May, Bush and the GOP started selling a three-photo collection of Bush's first year in office, which included a photo of "a telephone call from Air Force One to Vice President Cheney the afternoon of September 11."



http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/wh.fundraising.flap/
The Bush spokesman said all three pictures were provided by the media to a commercial photo vendor, Corbis.com, and the GOP committees purchased the photos from the commercial vendor.



Bill Press: Bush puts Sept. 11 up for sale
http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/05/16/column.billpress/
Is nothing sacred anymore?

Apparently not — now that President Bush has put 9/11 up for sale to Republican donors.

For $150, donors will receive a framed set of three photos of President Bush in action: One, taking the oath of office. Two, addressing a joint session of Congress. Three, aboard Air Force One, talking on the phone to Dick Cheney on the morning of Sept. 11 (and probably asking Cheney's permission to return to Washington). The White House admits that President Bush gave the RNC permission to use all three photos as a pitch for campaign dough.

[bushisanidiot]

43. Next Up, 9/11 - The Musical!! cha-ching!!

keep dancing on the graves of the dead who you failed to protect, president scaredshitless. you are playing a losing game..

[GoddessOfGuinness]

68. Directed by Mel Gibson, no doubt.

:puke:

[sallydallas124]

47. The first years

Someone really needs to photoshop some accurate images onto that
"First Years" background. I would if I could.

[sonias]

35. "Nothing like hypocrisy with high production values"

Maureen Dowd's commentary on the ads.

Sonia
--------------
See Dick Run
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/04/opinion/04DOWD.html?hp
Mr. Bush's ad flashes a shot of firefighters removing some flag-draped remains of a victim from the wreckage at ground zero even as he prohibits the filming of flag-draped remains of soldiers coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan. You might call the Bush ads, an homage to Ronald Reagan's famous ads, "Mourning in America."

Nothing like hypocrisy with high production values.

[skippysmom]

37. They should be angry

I hope they kick his ass for using their loss for political gain.

[hippiechick]

40. Let's encourage them to vote Dem to show their opposition ...

if they're pissed at il Bushie, we need to embrace them, incorporate their anger and encourage them spread the word about how they're being pimped by the BFEE.


:hippie:

[David__77]

45. MoveOn could feature these families in a commercial.

That would be interesting--that's not exploitation, that's answering Bush's challenge.

[huckleberry]

48. Kristen Breitweiser's comments ...

Until Bush cooperates with the federal commission that is investigating the nation's preparedness before the attacks and its response "by testifying in public under oath ... he should not be using 9/11 as political propaganda," said Kristen Breitweiser, of Middletown Township, N.J., whose husband, Ronald Breitweiser, 39, died in the World Trade Center.

"Three thousand people were murdered on President Bush's watch," Breitweiser said. "He has not cooperated with the investigation to find out why that happened."


http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/elections/bal-bushads0304,0,2938799.story?coll=bal-home-headlines

[lancdem]

51. This article is on the front page of yahoo news

I'm not at all surprised the Bush campaign has done this, but when your first ads cause this kind of a backlash, that can't be good, no matter how you slice it.

[TNOE]

52. If You Care - Go Here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1193258

[underpants]

54. If you haven't seen it here is an image from the ad

[tedzbear]

57. Total exploitation!

Rove is seeking to associate * with the firefighters' heroism. Shameless propaganda!!!

* has about as much in common with the firefighters' bravery as his guard service during Viet-Nam had anything to do with the brave sacrifice of his fellow soldiers (soldiers like Kerry).


* is a pathetic, lying coward.

:kick:

[llmart]

58. OK, I'm as angry about these ads...

as the rest of you here, but let's use our anger constructively. I for one am going to write a letter to our daily newspapers regarding this shameless exploitation for personal gain. We spend a lot of time on this board typing and the least we can do is take some of that time and get it out in our editorials to our local newspapers. You may not believe it, but editorials - if there are enough of these-do make a difference as sometimes it's the only thing people read.

[dArKeR]

59. Republicans Drink the Blood of 9/11 Victims.

Hughes, who served as Mr.Bush's White House spokeswoman, is being used as a surrogate for the president. She appeared Thursday on three morning TV news shows, and has already begun taking shots at Mr. Bush's Democratic rival, John Kerry.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/04/politics/main603941.shtml

[Beetwasher]

60. Apparently the Ads Might Have Now Been PULLED!!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1193906

If this is true it's AWESOME!!!

Now, who wants to tell me that the only people upset would be mostly anti-Bush to begin with. Ha Ha!

[joeunderdog]

71. Four Million Dollars in free advertising for Kerry. Thank you very much!!

"He's not just arrogant, he's stupid. He's George W. Bush!"

The backlash from this will have alot more effect on voter's opinions than flinging the rhetoric ever could. This is a true statement of character that will not sit well with people. It's the kind of poor taste that speaks loudly, beyond the daily classless responses to news stories. He himself created this news story. It's how he wanted it. It really says something about him.

That he doesn't see how shallow it makes him look is only a testament to how shallow the man really is.

[Skidmore]

64. Reuters article on this topic

Sept. 11 Families Disgusted by Bush Campaign Ads

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=2&u=/nm/20040304/pl_nm/campaign_bush_reaction_dc

"STAY AWAY FROM GROUND ZERO


With Republicans holding their political convention in New York in late August, victims said they hope Bush does not make it worse by speaking at the site now known as Ground Zero, which many view as sacred.


"If he does, there will be a protest and it could get ugly," said Doyle..."

[RamboLiberal]

70. 9/11 Widow Monica Gabrielle on Hardball tonight MSNBC

From their Hardball email.

A couple of editorial strings we're gathering this morning concern the outrage by some over the new Bush ads...Some firefighters and 9/11 families are objecting to the use of ground zero images as being inappropriate for a political ad...Sr. Bush campaign advisor Karen Hughes was out on the talk shows this morning defending the ads...We'll talk to Monica Gabrielle, whose husband died on 9/11 and Rep. Vito Fossella (R-NY) who's speaking for the Bush campaign...Also, John Kerry released a spot last September 9th mentioning 9/11, Howard Mortman reminds us...

[leetrisck]

74. Turn it on him - allowing 3000 to be killed

is his greatest accomplishment - is he bragging about it?

[Skittles]

86. He has been exploiting these victims since 09/11/01

republicans are f***ing disgusting

[bluedog]

90. Jan 2002

"I have no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue "

snip

He said that his proposals were non-partisan, stating that there were no differences between the White House and Congress on the issue.

"I have no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue. There is no daylight between the executive and the legislative branches," he said.

"I have a responsibility to prepare the nation for all that lies ahead," he said.

"There will be no room for misunderstanding. The most basic commitment of our government will be the security of our country



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1778681.stm



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Or what Vice President Cheney said in May of that year:(Can't find the source of this yet)


" need to be very cautious not to seek political advantage ... Such commentary is thoroughly irresponsible and totally unworthy of national leaders in a time of war."

[daveskilt]

91. CNN edited the story to be more bush friendly

Initially they included a quote from Karen Hughs saying "what do you expect from democrats -I can understand them not wanting focus on the presidents strong leadership" in response to the victims families. This quote was up for about 10 minutes then dissappeared.

[moondust]

105. Sets a bad precedent.

Sends the message that it's okay to exploit tragedy for personal gain. Get your souvenir 911 victim belt buckles here!

[bonemachine]

108. Cnn Poll

http://www.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/results/9474.content.html

Is it appropriate for President Bush to use images from the 9/11 attacks in campaign ads?

Yes 37% 122434 votes

No 63% 211712 votes
Total: 334146 votes

[The_Casual_Observer]

109. This shows what fools these smirk people are.

Spending all that money on a upside down ad campaign. I hope they don't fire the responsible ad agency.