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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 09:58 AM
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Snow: Economy improving (BTW - let's drill in ANWR!)
Edited on Fri Mar-05-04 09:59 AM by kysrsoze
HOLLYWOOD, Fla. (Reuters) - Economic activity is gathering steam, but excessive reliance on imported oil poses a threat not only to growth but also to national security, Treasury Secretary John Snow is set to warn Friday.

Government officials who previewed Snow's address to the Maritime Trades Department, which represents U.S. shipping interests, said he was urging that it was time to look again at letting oil companies drill in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR).

A similar proposal was thwarted by Democrats in the Senate last year for fear it would cause environmental damage. However, rising imported oil prices that are expected to keep U.S. gasoline prices up this summer could make energy security a potential issue for November's presidential elections.

"Through greater access to reliable and dependable U.S. energy supplies like ANWR we lessen our dependence on supplies from other, less secure, parts of the world," Snow said. "We make ourselves less dependent on those uncertain supplies from places where tensions run high and where disruption is always possible."

Snow's remarks named no countries, but recent reports have cited concern about the extent of long-term oil reserves in key producer Saudi Arabia.


http://money.cnn.com/2004/03/05/news/economy/snow.reut/index.htm

What an ass. Nice spin to make ANWR drilling sound good.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 09:59 AM
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1. How come only 21,000 jobs were created last month?
:shrug:
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:00 AM
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2. They're supposedly govt jobs - Bush campaign staff?
He he.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:26 AM
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8. Nope - Bush revised down Dec by 8000, Jan by 15000 -& gets new jobs in Feb
I do love math!
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Athame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:03 AM
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3. Environmental concerns are out the window
as soon as awareness of Peak Oil reaches the general public. Snow is greasing the skids.
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nagbacal Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:12 AM
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4. Purple asteroids
Should get interesting when PPI figures are finally released. Are they not close to one month overdue by now?
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:19 PM
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22. Hi nagbacal!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Gasolinedream Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:16 AM
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5. I still thought there..
was only about 6 months to a year's worth of oil in ANWR? If so, how is that going to help us? ALso, it will take years to get to it, right? How does this make any sense even if you disregard the Environmental Impact?
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toopers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:22 AM
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6. What is the environmental impact?
Have not read a report yet.

Thanks - Toop
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:22 AM
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7. Those were my thoughts when I read the post.
It won't help us for long yet the damage done to the environment and ANWR will last generations. It is not a solution to our problem and I wish like hell they would quit pushing for it! It is a temporary money maker for the administrations oil friends and nothing more.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:29 AM
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10. Too many jobs created
thats the problem. RIIIIGHHHHHHTTT......

why spin it half assed when you can really go for it?
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:38 AM
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11. ??????
Could you please elaborate?
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 01:45 PM
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18. Alaskan jobs
He said drilling in ANWR will create jobs. Maybe all the out-of-work programmers can head up north for a new career.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:28 AM
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9. Six Months To Two Years Worth Of Oil - Yes That's All We Get From ANWR
But when you are a greedy republican politician paying back your donor base facts don't matter.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:50 AM
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13. USGS estimates there's a 5% chance of as much as 15 billion barrels
Any field or fields in the refuge are much more likely to contain between 3 and 5 bbl.

This isn't much compared with Prudhoe Bay, which totaled about 25 billion, or Ghawar in S.A., which at the time of its discovery in the late 1940s probably contained about 87 billion barrels - about one-eighth of the world's proven reserves.

It's not much oil and it's expensive as hell to develop.
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benfranklin1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:44 AM
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12. Uh Gee there Snowjob how about improving energy efficiency instead?
Edited on Fri Mar-05-04 10:45 AM by benfranklin1776
...and reducing consumption. No chance of that since Uncle Dick has derided conservation as a mere "personal virtue" http://www.consortiumnews.com/2001/051501a.html and not policy, and this adminstration consistently opposes efforts to increase fuel efficiency standards. They are fossilized, fossil fuel slaves.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 01:38 PM
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17. and gives Tax Credits for Hummers instead of for Conservation
:mad:
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 04:12 PM
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21. YES, if needed that much, lower CAFE. Tax break alts.
If we need more gas for our country, then,
Car CAFE standards should be lowered.
Trucks should be included, especially SUVs, (maybe CAFET).
Tax breaks should be given for home solar, wind, and hydrogen alternative sources to add to the power grid.

THEN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT RUINING WHAT WE CANNOT PUT BACK. (ANWR)
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 01:08 PM
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14. quite a caveat and/or asterisk/CYA
Edited on Fri Mar-05-04 01:09 PM by cosmicdot
* excessive reliance on imported oil poses a threat not only to growth but also to national security

watch out, Mr. Snow, wouldn't want any common sense seeping into practical applications
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 01:19 PM
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15. You know their solution - more tax cuts for the rich.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 01:28 PM
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16. "Take Two Tax Cuts And Call Me In The Morning."
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 02:12 PM
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19. ANWAR is the last of the promises smirk made
to his contributors. His handlers are very focused on making smirk keep his promises. The WH will drag this one along to the bitter end.

Recall that smirk started talking up the recession back in 2000 in an effort to drum up support for the tax cuts. He continues to play on the misfortunes of the middle class to push though every possible kind of corporate welfare deal.
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Mandomaniac Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 02:26 PM
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20. Man I hate this administration
Yes, using MORE oil is the way to reduce our dependence on foreign oil. Idiots.

The easiest way to reduce dependence is conservation. But, that's too obvious. Oh yea, and it doesnt put enough $$$ in Bush's pockets. Duh, what was I thinking?


:grr:

Nothing pisses me off more than the blatant environmental disregards of this pResident's admin.
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