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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:04 PM
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Public Option Headed For Vote Tomorrow
Edited on Thu Sep-24-09 08:11 PM by kpete
Source: Huffington Post

The public option is headed for a vote in the Senate Finance Committee on Friday.

Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) lamented on a conference call Thursday evening that the debate Friday would be the first time that the committee, since it began negotiating health care reform months ago, would be debating the public option.

"We're going to have a full blown debate in the Finance Committee," said Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), a backer of the public option. While it may be an "underdog," Schumer said, "don't count it out."

The bill in its present form, written by Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) in consultation with three Republicans and two Democrats on the committee, offers health care cooperatives as an alternative.

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"I'd like to make a prediction," said Schumer. "The health care bill that will be signed into law by the president will have a good, strong, robust public option."




Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/24/public-option-headed-for_n_299232.html
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:17 PM
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1. I admit, I feel uneasy about Schumer cheerleading this vote
But what the hell, it may actually go somewhere.

As long as Baucus' bill is trashed.
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badgervan Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:50 PM
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4. Normally I'd Be With You.....
.... but sometimes we need a loud, forceful voice that loves the cameras out front for us, willing to fight the lies of the other side and cut through the bull. Schumer fits this description to a T.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 10:00 PM
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11. That's true
Schumer IS a showboat. Just glad he's on our side this time.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:27 AM
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23. Sen. Schumer phoned into The Ed Show tonight. He was excited and confident in the public option. nt
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:45 AM
Response to Reply #23
30. And Sherrod Brown
was on Countdown last night, and also sounded pretty confident as well.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:33 PM
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2. Something good has come out of this
Before Baucus, people were calling those co-ops a public option. Now they don't.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:41 PM
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3. From Schumer's lips to God's ears... nt
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Aragorn Donating Member (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 09:05 PM
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5. Hopefully
this means our elected officials are just barely smart enough to know what the voters actually want them to do.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 09:25 PM
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6. Buck Faucus
That is all.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 10:46 PM
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16. Scuttle the pay or punish crapsurance bills. Buck Baucus! Buck him!
Nicely put.
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 09:26 PM
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7. I watched the mark up in congress on Baucas bill and not too many Democrats liked it.
All preferred the public option. 

All agreed this bill was for the industry and would not create
a savings in health policy.  
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 09:38 PM
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8. Public HC Co-operatives + New Financing models that protect private equity in partnership with
Public Money in collaboratively designed and built HC communities that have extensive local roots and different kinds of owners working on an HC local economic collaborative.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 09:42 PM
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10. P.S. Instead of spending down for LTC, have Grandma & Grandpa invest in Private/Public Equity partne
rships for Care communities.
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mike3121 Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 09:40 PM
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9. If the Dems Really wanted to get this through
If the Democratic leadership really wanted to get this through they should contrive an emergency just prior to the vote. Perhaps some real or contrived "hate crime" would be enough to start this ball in motion. Remember when there's a flood always point to a fire. I think they should suddenly pull Fox's license and, at the same time, shut down all talk radio and arrest Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, etc. There would be a huge cry from the lunatic right. With this commotion going on no one would notice the Gov Health Care bill going through. Afterwords Rush and company would be released with apology (but the stations would stay closed).
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Aragorn Donating Member (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 10:01 PM
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12. ambitious?
me likee
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 10:02 PM
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13. I want some of what ^ he's smokin..... n/t
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 10:36 PM
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15. That ^ stuff ^ isn't legal yet.
But I really think there's a movement afoot to take care of that problem.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 10:33 PM
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14. Disaster Politics? FRAK!! that. That's what we're trying to END.
:crazy:
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:51 PM
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20. I hope you ordered yourself a hot, steaming tombstone pizza for your stay. nt
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:47 AM
Response to Reply #9
32. Why are you hiding
your profile?
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 07:13 PM
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41. If it were the repugs, they would conjure up some emergency BS
like, "Iran has been hiding a secret nuclear facility."

N'est pas?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:07 PM
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17. 'strong' -- i guess we'll all know exactly what that is after it comes out. nt
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:15 PM
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18. They're putting in 2 ammendments but niether one has a chance of passing.
Everybody on the left wants the public option but if the only people who are eligeable to get it are the poor then we might as well keep medicaid. The public option Obama talked about won't even be open for a large part of the middle class.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:49 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. You don't know what you are talking about!
Get a clue!
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:01 AM
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21. Is that a big dose of sarcasm there?
If it isn't, according to Obama's speech, he said less than 5% of the US population would enroll in the Public Option. That sounds like it is out of reach of most people.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:26 AM
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22. Some have trouble "listening to comphrehend"!That is exactly
my problem with this and Obama DID say exactly that. Why some deny it is beyond me.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:40 AM
Response to Reply #22
28. Saracat...you should know me better than that by now!
I "comprehend" very well thank you!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 02:23 AM
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37. Then you know that is what Obama did, in fact ,say.Why
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 02:24 AM by saracat
would you think the comment had anything to do with you?:shrug:
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:31 AM
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24. Actually...
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 12:33 AM by ProudDad
Only 5% of the population would be ALLOWED to join the public option in the House bills HR3200...

The POS House bill would also leave over 15 million people uninsured... So much for "Universal"...

----------------------------------------

As for the Baucus bill, AFAIK there IS no public option and it would leave over 20 to 25 MILLION people uninsured...

Way to go, shills...

========================================

They would both direct an additional half a TRILLION to a TRILLION dollars PER YEAR once they get rolling into the pockets of the fucking leeches in the insurance corporations and the drug kingpins at Big PhRMA...

A huge amount of that in taxpayer dollars.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:44 AM
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29. It will no longer be "the Baucus Bill"
when the rest of the committee gets through with it!! It is the Senate we are talking about here, not the house bill. They all have to be reconciled to become the FINAL bill.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:33 AM
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25. Not only are we keeping medicaid....
we are going to be extending it! Yes that takes care of the poor. and those too young for medicare. I think the number of people that will be loosing their jobs, thus their health insurance will benefit from the public option, as will those who already have health insurance, who's premiums are skyrocketing. This gives them a chance to save some bucks too. I believe many more than estimated will opt out of their "great" med. insurance and opt for public option!
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:34 AM
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26. The Public Option CAN'T PASS in that committee... (n/t)
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:38 AM
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27. Wanna take a few bets on that?
We still outnumber them. I think many here will be pleasantly surprised! Stay tuned!! We've got some BIG GUNS in there now, not just the gang of six!!
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:47 AM
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31. Who's this guy "we"?
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 01:07 AM by ProudDad
The vote will probably be:

Baucus - No
Rockefeller - Yes
Conrad - No
Bingaman - Maybe
Kerry - Yes (maybe--he's the 2nd highest health lobby recipient but he's FILTHY rich in a secure seat and pretends to be "progressive" whatever the hell that means any more...)
Lincoln - No
Wyden - Yes
Schumer - Yes
Stabenow - Maybe
Cantwell - Yes
Nelson - No
Menendez - Maybe
Carper - No
Grassley - No
Hatch - No
Snowe - No
kyl (Slime ball mother fucker) - NO!
Bunning - zzzzzzz - NO
Crapo - No
Roberts - No
Ensign - No
Enzi - No
Cornyn - No

So best case I count 8 for Yes --- 15 for NO

You Lose...
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 08:04 AM
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39. ...
:crazy: :rofl:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:41 AM
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33. So is this the good public option or the weak version?
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t0dd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:48 AM
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34. Both.
Rockefeller's is the one tied to Medicare rates. Schumer's creates a more level playing field. Schumer himself said he intends to also vote for Rockefeller's, since it is the ideal one, but he proposed his in an attempt to attract more of the conservadems. The ideal endgame is to get the public option tied to Medicare and for Wyden's amendment to be accepted, that way we have a strong public option that anyone can join.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:50 AM
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35. The only good "public option" would be to
improve and enhance Medicare and make it available to ALL...

HR676 comes close...
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 02:24 AM
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38. True enough.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:52 AM
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36. The BEST thing would be NONE of these egregious bills
The 2nd best thing would be a bill including the Kucinich Amendment allowing states to opt for single-payer...

Followed by California getting rid of the SteroidenGroppenFuhrer and getting a Dem as governor and passing SB840 again...this time getting it signed...

And show the country how well single-payer works...

We ain't NEVER gonna get Universal Health Care from the Feds...until they're led kicking and screaming to it...
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 11:33 AM
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40. Nope, they are in recess until next Tuesday.
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