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Sticky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:18 PM
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Bush Might Be Questioned Longer by 9/11 Commission
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By Steve Holland

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House said on Tuesday it was possible President Bush (news - web sites) could be questioned longer than an hour he agreed to by a commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, an apparent concession that came after criticism from Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites).



White House spokesman Scott McClellan, asked several times if Bush would stick to his insistence the session before the commission be restricted to one hour, said it was scheduled for an hour but that "the president of course is going to answer all the questions they want to raise."


The shift in position came a day after the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, Sen. Kerry of Massachusetts, attacked Bush on the issue at a time when the president was visiting a rodeo in Houston.


"If the president of the United States can find the time to go to a rodeo, he can find the time to do more than one hour in front of a commission that is investigating what happened to America's intelligence and why we are not stronger today," Kerry said.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=615&ncid=716&e=12&u=/nm/20040309/pl_nm/security_bush_dc
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:21 PM
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1. Phony little bastard...why should pressure from anyone anywhere be what
makes him decide to do THE RIGHT THING???
Honor and dignity my ass...this guy has no shame, no conscience, no brain, no headaches...
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:24 PM
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2. Another flip-flop!
You're right, it's the pressure. Bring it on!
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:25 PM
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3. Gosh, more than ONE WHOLE HOUR?
also will this be the whole commission or just the chairman and vice as previously announced?

And will he be sworn in or not?

Swear him in!!!!
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SilasSoule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:25 PM
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4. But he is still just going to be "visiting" with them right?

I't not like he's gonna get put under oath or anything. Or will the two commission members put him under oath. Anyone know for sure?
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:26 PM
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5. Oath or not
I don't trust him to tell the truth! JMHO
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:53 PM
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12. Absolutely right...
he swore an oath when he joined the TANG and another after he stole the election. Oaths mean nothing to him.
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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:38 PM
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6. Point of negotiation
Will there be snacks served? If the commission brings pretzels and doughnuts, they might get the fucking shrub to hang out a little longer and shoot the shit.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:54 PM
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13. skip the pretzels; the loser would choke himself to death before he could
admit his culpability in bringing it on...
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 10:39 AM
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29. kick
:kick:
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:40 PM
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7. Hey, let's give shrubbie a LITTLE credit
After all, his attention span is only 20 minutes.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:06 PM
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17. 20 minutes? Shoot, I think he'd lose interest in
a two-minute mystery.

He loses track of the subject in a 30 second commercial.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:40 PM
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8. Bush on MtP: "I Don't Testify"
Remember his earlier statement to Tim Russert. Let's all encourage Kerry to hold Bush's feet to the proverbial fire...
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:53 PM
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11. Wasn't that the most horrid example of smirking arrogance???
I can't believe people can't see through this little moron
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:11 PM
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20. GD thread on this here:
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:42 PM
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9. This tells me two things...
One: That the flak about his 9/11 ads vs his 1 hour stipulation is hitting home, and

Two: They are running scared

I love it!

Go Kerry!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:49 PM
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10. How many hours did President Clinton have to sit there and
answer questions from that pervert Ken Starr? I think it was about 4 hours. Surely, Junior can free up 4 hours to talk about 9/11, I mean, he doesn't mind using 9/11 in his campaign ads.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:00 PM
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15. It took him longer than four hours to SHOOT those campaign ads
He's got plenty of time to EXPLOIT 9/11, but no time at all to be held accountable for the failures that led to it.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:37 PM
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22. Amen, Sister!
"He's got plenty of time to EXPLOIT 9/11, but no time at all to be held accountable for the failures that led to it."
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:42 PM
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24. Just put the commission on Air Force One
and go with him on his fundraiser offical government business trips. There have been so many in the past few weeks, they could have asked him questions for Days, not just hours.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:59 PM
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14. Call your congress critters on this, NOW!
I don't care if they're republi-CONs. They still need to hear about this and to know that not everybody among their constituents is a dumb, blind bushbot. Note my sig line for more...
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:06 PM
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16. Just remember...
Resident Deficit has brought honor and dignity to the White House - whenever he is there, he performs his duties in a suit.

Outside, he follows Rove who follows some shlock Hollywood advisor. So what did he wear to the rodeo - chaps and spurs?
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:10 PM
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18. I wonder if he will demand he get to wear his little ear piece that is
connected to someone who prompts all the answers.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:10 PM
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19. No oath, no point...
He'll lie in every answer, as usual...
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graphixtech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:30 PM
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21. under Oath, with the FULL Commission
not merely the Chair and Vice-Chair mockery.

- from today's press gaggle:
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
Q: All right. Go ahead, Norah.
McCLELLAN: It's not free-for-all Tuesday.
Q: Now that the time limit has changed with the President, is also under negotiation the number of members who will be able to meet with the President? Because you've said -- you just said the commission has already had access to everything they have requested. But, in fact, the full commission is requesting to meet with the President, all the members, not just the chairman and the vice chairman.

McCLELLAN: Look, he will sit down -- he looks forward to sitting down with the chairman and the vice chairman. I pointed out to you that Dr. Rice made herself available to meet with all the commission; only five members showed up. There was another National Security Council official where only, I think, four showed up. There has not been one single commission member who has participated in every interview. I mean, they depend on others to provide them information. And so you have to look back at past practice and keep that in context, as well.

(more)McCLELLAN: The meeting will be with the chairman and vice chairman. That's what ---

Q: Will it be for one hour or will it last --- (laughter).

McCLELLAN: We've been through this. I mean, I'm not looking at -- keep in mind -- I think it's important to report the facts of all the access that they've already had to information, which has been full access; all the access they've had to White House officials and administration officials; all the material that has been provided to them. And now they're coming to the President of the United States. Obviously, the President's most solemn obligation is the protection of the American people, and this President is acting to do everything we can to make sure something like September 11th doesn't ever happen again, by taking the fight to the enemy. And we're talking about -- we're also talking about a seven-eight month period, not an eight-year period. But these threats did not happen overnight, but this President is confronting them to make --

Q: Why does he complain all the time, then --

McCLELLAN: -- because he never forgets September 11th.
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(Pretty darned coincidental that Kerry gets credit when TomFlocco.com and 911Visibility.org have currently organized a worldwide FAX, phone, letter campaign about this issue)
Word is that these six designated representatives are getting TONS of citizen responses about the 9-11 cover-up.

http://www.septembereleventh.org/alerts.php

Please read this persausive Global Research article explaining why is is so important that citizens collectively voice our concerns about 9-11 at this time in history.

NEW article by Bill Douglas:
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/DOU403A.html

Historic Moment for the Peace & Justice Movement
Stopping the 9-11 Cover Up
is Ground Zero for the Peace Effort
by William Douglas

www.globalresearch.ca    4 March 2004
WORLDWIDE 9-11 PHONE, FAX, EMAIL CAMPAIGN

Tom Flocco ( TomFlocco.com ) Bill Douglas
http://tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1
www.911Visibility.org )
PLEASE POST AND/OR EMAIL WIDELY:
There are six individuals who have the power to influence whether President George Bush, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman, General Richard Myers, will publicly testify under oath before the American people to explain why they sat at their desks and in a school classroom, failing to take decisive action on September 11, 2001, until after four planes attacked the United States and killed 3,000 Americans and citizens from many other countries.  This, despite knowledge of the hijackings earlier that morning before any of the four planes crashed. 

Below you will find contact numbers and questions to initiate weekly communication with those who have the over-sight responsibility, public microphone, and/or power to influence the strength of the 9-11 Commission investigation.  These actions may well determine whether those in charge on 9-11 publicly testify under oath and submit to questioning by Commission-assisted and experienced career prosecutors rather than appointed former government bureaucrats and/or legislators.  Lawyers with prosecutorial skills prepare intensely for specific areas of interrogation and will be able to elicit truth and facts via questi . . .
(much more. . . )

The URL of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/DOU403A.html
The American people would have never allowed such dramatic rollbacks in civil liberties at home and the launching of two wars overseas had it not been for one event . . . 9-11. 9-11 gave the Bush Administration and Pentagon hawks cart blanche to turn the world upside down. It frightened Americans into answering the age old question "guns or butter?" with a resounding answer of "GUNS!!" The problem is, the "official" 9-11 story does not hold water. 9-11 families in mass are filing litigations to demand full 9-11 disclosure. However, they need the support of the peace movement to gain a larger voice. Why should the peace & justice movement be involved in 9-11 truth actions?

Bush has persuaded Americans that to stop future 9-11 terrorist type strikes, we need A) Endless wars, and B) Reduced Liberty at home. The truth is that neither is necessary, the only thing required was for Bush et al to DO THEIR JOBS before and on 9-11, which they did not. President Bush actually ordered the FBI's head of counter terrorism to "back off" the Bin Laden and Al Qaeda investigations before 9-11. All airforce hijacked flight intercept procedures were violated on 9-11, and 9-11 widow Ellen Mariani's attorney is charging that this could only have happened if someone had issued a "stand down" order on 9-11. Oddly, immediately after 9-11 when other planes were grounded throughout the U.S., Bush allowed private jets to spirit Bin Laden family members and other Saudi royals out of the U.S. with no substantive questioning from the FBI. Insider stock trades profiting off the coming attacks of United and American airlines were made at a bank with known CIA connections, AB Brown Trust. The current head of AB Brown resigned on 9-11-2001, leaving behind $2.5 million in unclaimed "winnings" from someone who had bet AGAINST United and American Airlines stocks "the day before" 9-11. If 9-11 was allowed to happen, as it appears it was, it would remove the fuel from the militaristic fires in many Americans hearts that the Bush Admin. absolutely needs to justify endless war and civil liberty rollbacks.

It is time for the peace and justice movement to get behind heroes like Mrs. Ellen Mariani, Kristin Breitweiser, and Mindy Klienburg, 9-11 widows who are fighting for a truth that may unravel the entire Bush "endless war" agenda. Mrs. Mariani's attorney in her suit against Bush, stated that Mrs. Mariani's goal is to end Bush's endless illegal wars, to recover civil rights in America, and to end Bush's manipulation of the American people by shamelessly using 9-11, an event that he allowed to happen for personal political gain, and is now covering up.

Mrs. Mariani and her attorney Phil Berg, former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania, recently spoke in Kansas City to capacity crowds at several metro churches, and were interviewed by local ABC, NBC, CBS, and FOX News affiliates, as well as The Kansas City Star.

A subtle and silent revolution for truth is beginning to boil across North America, and beyond. The 911Visibility.org Movement has emerged in the United States in response to 9-11 widow, Ellen Mariani's, historic lawsuit against G.W. Bush et al for complicity in allowing the 9-11 attacks to occur and for his subsequent "attempted" 9-11 cover up. Long Island Press wrote last week that www.911visibility.org is giving Americans demanding 9-11 truth a voice.

Bush's cover up is about to be thwarted. The 911Visibility.org Project released it's new website www.septembereleventh.org to 100,000 hits from visitors in the first two weeks of it's launch. It's purpose is many fold. To empower ordinary people to contact media and governments worldwide to demand a full and complete disclosure of all relevant 9-11 facts. It seeks to engage the mainstream peace & justice movement in the 9-11 truth movement. It provides step-by-step manuals on how to organize local 9-11 Visibility Projects, from organizing to media outreach, and by forming coalitions of existing peace & justice groups.

The National 911Visibility.org Project was modeled on broad based peace & justice coalition efforts in Seattle and Kansas City, where hundreds demonstrated, got local media coverage, lobbied the local newspaper into condemning Bush's 9-11 cover up, and handed out many thousands of leaflets on the 9-11 cover up, as well as organizing public teach ins at churches etc.

www.septembereleventh.org provides downloadable flyers and posters, access to 9-11 cover up books and videos for house parties, etc. The 911Visibility.org Project also promotes and supports the 9-11 Meetups.com. 9-11 Meetups.com enables those concerned about the 9-11 cover up to meet with others in their communities to begin organizing. Activists in over 100 cities around the world have listed for 911Meetups. The 911Visibility.org Project provides tools for those 9-11 Meetups to utilize and hit the ground running, to empower them with techniques to broaden their effort by reaching out to mainstream peace & justice organizations, and by using the Internet more effectively.

Howard Dean called to attention the rumours that Bush was warned by the Saudi's of the coming 9-11 attacks BEFORE they occurred, and Dean asserted that this is exactly why we need FULL disclosure from the Bush Administration regarding 9-11. John Kerry recently demanded full 9-11 disclosure from the Bush administration as well. Former 9-11 Commissioner, Max Cleland, on CNN stated that Bush's obstructions of the 9-11 investigation were "DISGUSTING" and a "SCAM," and that in fact "America is being scammed!" CNN's Aaron Brown condemned Hastert's attempt to cut short the 9-11 Commission, and urged his viewers to call Congress to demand an extension of the 9-11 Commission deadline. The 9-11 movement seeks to build on these bold assertions, to create a mass movement calling attention to the Bush obstruction of the 9-11 investigation.

For 2 long years Bush has attempted to thwart any real 9-11 investigation. Ellen Mariani's suit against Bush et al under the RICO Act for racketeering, is the catalyst to demand truth. Bush tried to buy her off with a $1 MILLION "settlement," but Mariani said, "I'd rather eat dirt . . .". Mrs. Mariani's courageous act must not go unsupported by mainstream peace & justice activists.

We are at a critical point in human history. Americans are willing to be led into shameful acts, so long as they are terrorized into thinking that is the only way they can avoid future 9-11 type strikes. To expose the truth that 9-11 was allowed to happen by an administration that needed the strike to further it's own political ambitions will provide a shock therapy that can wake Americans up. It will be the healthiest possible thing that could happen right now.

"The Truth shall set you free."

Get involved today, and urge all other activists and activist organizations to get involved. The truth is ripe, it yearns to be broken free, but it will take a concerted effort by the movement to break the truth through the corporate media shroud that has thus far contained it. This week the Ellen Marinari suit was mentioned in some North American media. Together we can force it out to the mainstream public.

Roughly in America there are 40% who will love Bush no matter what he does. There are about 40% who have a visceral distaste for Bush no matter what he does. The 20% swing voters lean to Bush due to the carefully nurtured myth that Bush=Security. Of course the opposite is true, because evidence shows Bush allowed 9-11 to occur. So, to expose the Mariani suit to the general public, will result in Bush losing in a landslide in 2004, and THEN the truth of 9-11 can come out. We are at a historic moment. at a moment where hope and history rhyme."

We have within our grasp an opportunity to rent the fabric of our Prozac nation, and clear away the spell that has clouded our national vision. However, we must step forward and take it. The American peace & justice community has a historic opportunity before us. By embracing the 9-11 truth movement and taking up the cause of the courageous 9-11 family's fight for truth, they can remove the shroud that is clouding the vision of Americans to accept illegal wars and illegal rollbacks in rights at home. However, the peace & justice community must act fast, because once the 9-11 Commission closes its doors the opportunity to fight for truth . . . is over for good. Visit www.septembereleventh.org to get involved today with the 911Visibility.org movement to demand the truth that can set our nation free.

"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds" -- Samuel Adams

Bill Douglas


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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:39 PM
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23. it'll be a whitewash folks, its just part of the game
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:42 PM
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25. I'm against torture, but
in his case I'd be willing to make an exception. Maybe that way they can get some answers.


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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:58 PM
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26. Making him ask some hard questions would be torture enough....
Something like the "Question Time" in the British House of Commons. Get a bunch of questioners--some rather hostile. Have them shout multiple questions at him. Don't let up. Do follow-up questions. Allow sarcasm.

Do it on TV. Prime Time, live. He'd get angry right away, then be reduced to tears.

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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 03:16 PM
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27. I'll bet every Commission member, friend, associate
back two generations has a wiretap on their phone, bugs in their homes, offices, cars, and constant surveillance, etc.

I'll bet Bush Co. already knows what questions are going to be asked.

If I were commission member I would only discuss the vital stuff in a mountain hotspring with all info passed on through folded handwritten notes, or some similar arrangement.

Call me paranoid, but its better to be safe than sorry.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 04:05 PM
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28. How much you wanna bet "swearing to tell the truth" is against his,...
,..."religion"!!! :D
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 10:45 AM
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30. Will he refuse to go under oath though? He needs to be under oath.
Bush's refusal to go under oath is suspicious...
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