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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:28 PM
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Senate to Take up Bernie Sanders Single-Payer Health Plan Wednesday
Source: Common Dreams

Published on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 by CommonDreams.org
Senate to Take up Bernie Sanders Single-Payer Health Plan Wednesday

WASHINGTON, December 15 - The Senate on Wednesday will debate for the first time in American history a proposal to create a single-payer, Medicare-for-all health care system.

"In my view, the single-payer approach is the only way we will ever have a cost-effective, comprehensive health care system in this country," said Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), whose amendment will come before the Senate.

The Sanders Amendment would provide health care and dental coverage for every American, save money, and improve health care results.

"One of the reasons our current health care system is so expensive, so wasteful, so bureaucratic, so inefficient is that it is heavily dominated by private health insurance comp

Read more: http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/12/15-9
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:35 PM
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1. Will there be a roll-call vote?
We know what will happen to this amendment, but I'd like to know who votes to kill it.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:37 PM
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3. I can't wait to see that roll call!
I suspect that, sadly, there will be only a small number of yes votes.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:38 PM
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28. maybe they (Dems) will all accept and vote yes! That would anger the GOP!
give the GOP the run around
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:36 PM
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2. Alas
From TFA:
Sanders acknowledged that his amendment would not pass. "As a result of the power of the insurance and pharmaceutical industries, this amendment will not pass or even get very many votes. Nonetheless, given the view of millions of us that a single-payer approach is the only way this country will ever provide comprehensive, cost-effective health care to all its citizens, this is an important step forward.


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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:43 PM
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4. Theatre...
Why didn't the Democratic leadership send this to the CBO for scoring!? That would have changed the entire debate.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:45 PM
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5. You answered your own question
They didn't dare let the CBO score single payer.
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:36 AM
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9. BINGO
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:19 PM
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22. It wouldn't make any difference. The RW simply picks and chooses the CBO score they
like and ignore the one they don't like. They even laugh and sneer and admit it, the way Mort Zuckerman did on Morning Joe a couple of weeks ago when he was debating hcr with Howard Dean. Dean said Mort couldn't pick and choose and Mort just snorted "Sure I can!" with a big laugh. Dean was so surprised he laughed too.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 06:08 PM
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25. The same could be said of the Democrats
who was it didn't send single payer to be scored?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 06:20 PM
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26. Well, but for a different reason...so many just wanted it shut out.
Not even get to the POINT of scoring. That was really bad from my point of view...
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wial Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:49 PM
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6. in the real world
which surely this can't be, this would have passed long ago.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:05 AM
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7. this would have passed long ago.
It did!....in every civilized country on earth.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 03:30 PM
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24. And that's the unfortunate entire story of single payer and the U.S.
We have teabaggers and the GOP to distract us from who really rules us and what they are doing to us THROUGH the Democratic Party.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:06 AM
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8. I admire Bernie Sanderse...
Clearly, he does not agree with Dean and is still fighting to pass a bill.
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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:48 AM
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14. There is no disagreement.
Dean hasn't given up, he just has a floor, below which he will not sink. Whereas, the elected Democrats will sink to any depths necessary to please the corporate weasels who have bought off OUR employees to work against us.

The Democrats misunderstood Yoda's meaning by "there is no try," thinking it meant make no effort on behalf of the People of America. Dean and Bernie both have plenty of TRY.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:56 AM
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19. Bull shit. n/t
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:36 AM
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10. Imagine this got 60 votes. No one would see that one coming.
The media would actually have a collective nervous breakdown.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 01:10 AM
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13. Do with less votes on reconciliation.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:36 AM
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17. It won't even get 50
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:52 AM
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11. Good luck, Bernie !!!
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Fozzledick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 01:03 AM
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12. Politics aside, there are really only two choices
Either universal single payer, or else something that costs more for less coverage.
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 03:20 AM
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15. We have to demand that our leaders stop acting stupid, ignorant and prejudice.
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Garam_Masala Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 03:24 AM
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16. Bernie is right....Single payer is the ONLY real HC Reform
What is left of senator Reid's watered down HCR bill is a $900 Billion
welfare program for big pharma and the private health insurers.
It will surely subsidize the currently under insured but will raise
cost for all those who currently are insured.

There are no cost controls, taxes start in 2010 but benefits don't
start until 4 years later. It is a joke!
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:21 AM
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18. This is what we should be fighting for. n/t
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 01:24 PM
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20. Bless you, Bernie!
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:05 PM
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21. It is being read in its entirety in the Senate right now.
Thanks to the pukes who just want to waste time, at least they are reading a good amendment. All 700+ pages of it.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 03:00 PM
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23. Sanders withdrew it
to stop the reading.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:09 PM
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27. He should have let them finish it
but Bernie has a conscience.

I did see a clip on Countdown of what he said when he withdrew it - he really gave the 'pukes hell.
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