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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:50 PM
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Senate facing potential liberal revolt on health care reform bill
Source: CNN

Washington (CNN) -- Simmering liberal angst over the Senate health care bill threatened to boil over Thursday as a critical labor union threatened a new fight over provisions that were dropped to attract more moderate supporters.

The warning came shortly after a top Senate progressive indicated he is not prepared to back the bill as currently drafted.

Senate Democratic leaders also faced continuing problems with social conservatives in their ranks. A key moderate continued to warn that Majority Leader Harry Reid's bill does not do enough to bar taxpayer-funded abortions.

The continuing discontent from both the left and right demonstrated the steep challenge still facing Reid as he struggles to unify his typically fractious 60-member caucus. If the minority GOP remains unified in opposition, the backing of all 60 members will be required to end Senate debate on the bill and proceed to a vote on final passage.

Final Senate passage would require only a simple majority of 51 votes.

Read more: http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/12/17/health.care/
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:52 PM
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1. Gee, maybe the message is getting through. "Don't piss on my back and tell me it is raining" /nt
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:52 PM
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2. Keep herding those cats, Harry. I wonder if he has invested in Pepto Bismol stock yet?
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:54 PM
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3. Which is why we should let the Blue Cross dogs and conservadems stop the bill. Then go to
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 01:54 PM by Vincardog
Reconciliation to pass Medicare for all and only require 51 votes.
If they can't do that they deserve to be replaced.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:54 PM
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4. Of course they want to label it as "liberal" verses "moderate" /nt
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:56 PM
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5. IT is in fact Right vs Radical Right.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:56 PM
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6. Your perception is right on /nt
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:00 PM
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7. Time to exercise the nuclear option. End the filibuster and put every damned
thing we want into the bill. Hell, just add the Sanders amendment and pass the damned thing.

If we do this, Dems will have such a supermajority come next election, the filibuster would be moot anyway, and it would secure that supermajority for decades.

Fools. They are gonna piss this opportunity away. I hope they choke to death on their FUCKING MONEY. All of them.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:00 PM
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8. Time to exercise the nuclear option. End the filibuster and put every damned
thing we want into the bill. Hell, just add the Sanders amendment and pass the damned thing.

If we do this, Dems will have such a supermajority come next election, the filibuster would be moot anyway, and it would secure that supermajority for decades.

Fools. They are gonna piss this opportunity away. I hope they choke to death on their FUCKING MONEY. All of them.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:06 PM
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9. Call the White House and let them know - it takes very little time- Switchboard: 202-456-1414
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 02:07 PM by tomm2thumbs

They do listen and make notes of your comment - I'd keep it to 2 sentences - the volunteers are being inundated but they are answering.

Switchboard: 202-456-1414
Ask to leave a comment and they transfer you to a volunteer.

Use a calling card if you don't have long distance - it is worth using a few minutes to let them hear your opinion.

It is worth it, I assure you.
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maglatinavi Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:27 PM
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12. WHITE HOUSE
Called and spoke with volunteer asking the potus not to sign the present bill and sent it back to the drawing table to form a bill with a strong public option that benefits all. the person said it will be noted. I hope so. I hope many more will call.
:fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump:
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cilla4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:45 PM
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13. Done!
That felt good. Thanks for the information here.
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Tumbulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:46 PM
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16. I'm on hold now and will leave my comment
thanks for reminding me of this.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:08 PM
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10. stick to your guns and KILL THIS BILL, progressives!
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maglatinavi Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:19 PM
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11. Liberals! Revolt!
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 02:19 PM by maglatinavi
Don't pass this bill! Revolt and make your stand; be for "we the people" not for the corporations! thanks Dean for bringing sense to the matter... lets go back to the drawing table and come up with REAL HEALTH CARE REFORM THAT BENEFITS THE PEOPLE...
:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: THE ARSES OF THE SOLD OUT TO THE CORPS...
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:07 PM
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14. Kill the bill. It's worse than doing nothing. n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:38 PM
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15. Maybe "pro-lifer" Nelson will help us kill this bill. I am with Howard. nt
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:55 PM
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17. Gawd I hope so
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:59 PM
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18. The potential energy needs to be converted into kinetic energy.
But what's this bullshit: "Final Senate passage would require only a simple majority of 51 votes"? Only if cloture could be invoked. And the issue with a liberal Senate revolt is that it would take only one Senator to pull the reverse of the LIEberman maneuver -- no cloture if the abomination stays as it is, with no PO nor Medicare buy-in, no caps, a mandate without anything to make it worthwhile, and so on.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:02 PM
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19. Kill this Insuracy Industry Fascism bill!
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stubertmcfly Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 10:48 PM
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20. Potential?
I'm definitely revolted.
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