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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:26 PM
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CIA working with Palestinian security agents
Source: The Guardian UK

Palestinian security agents who have been detaining and allegedly torturing supporters of the Islamist organisation Hamas in the West Bank have been working closely with the CIA, the Guardian has learned.

Less than a year after Barack Obama signed an executive order that prohibited torture and provided for the lawful interrogation of detainees in US custody, evidence is emerging the CIA is co-operating with security agents whose continuing use of torture has been widely documented by human rights groups.

The relationship between the CIA and the two Palestinian agencies involved – Preventive Security Organisation (PSO) and General Intelligence Service (GI) – is said by some western diplomats and other officials in the region to be so close that the American agency appears to be supervising the Palestinians' work.

One senior western official said: "The Agency consider them as their property, those two Palestinian services." A diplomatic source added that US influence over the agencies was so great they could be considered "an advanced arm of the war on terror".


Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/17/cia-palestinian-security-agents



Apparently Obama is failing in stopping torture by the US as he said he would.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:40 PM
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1. You have to read between the lines. The US doesn't torture, our corporations do. Get it now?
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:14 PM
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2. Obama hasn't "failed in stopping" anything. He signed an executive order. If CIA agents are
violating it, they need to be arrested and prosecuted immediately.
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:27 PM
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3. Judging from the article he certainly hasn't succeeded.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 01:06 PM
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4. CIA working with Palestinian security agents (Allegations of CIA Involvement in West Bank Torture)
Source: Guardian UK


CIA working with Palestinian security agents

US agency co-operating with Palestinian counterparts who allegedly torture Hamas supporters in West Bank


Palestinian security agents who have been detaining and allegedly torturing supporters of the Islamist organisation Hamas in the West Bank have been working closely with the CIA, the Guardian has learned.

Less than a year after Barack Obama signed an executive order that prohibited torture and provided for the lawful interrogation of detainees in US custody, evidence is emerging the CIA is co-operating with security agents whose continuing use of torture has been widely documented by human rights groups.

The relationship between the CIA and the two Palestinian agencies involved – Preventive Security Organisation (PSO) and General Intelligence Service (GI) – is said by some western diplomats and other officials in the region to be so close that the American agency appears to be supervising the Palestinians' work.

One senior western official said: "The Agency consider them as their property, those two Palestinian services." A diplomatic source added that US influence over the agencies was so great they could be considered "an advanced arm of the war on terror".

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/17/cia-palestinian-security-agents
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 01:06 PM
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5. I thought we didn't torture anymore.
Man, I hate it when we get caught like this.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 01:06 PM
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6. The hits keep coming.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 01:06 PM
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7. Good to know that modern America has one product we can export abroad.
:sarcasm:

Although of course it would be the shadiest fucking thing on Earth. This country disgusts me a lot these days.

Rp
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SirRevolutionary Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 01:06 PM
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8. We do not torture...
we outsource that too.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 01:06 PM
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9. "The fine men and women of the CIA"
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 01:06 PM
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10. There have been some real rotten apples in the CIA
Maybe since the Dulles brothers. And, IMHO, CIA SOP has been to hook up with the most venal, corrupt sumbitches locally available, because they are most easily co-opted. What other rackets are the PSO/GI into? And what were these CIA guys into before this assignment? Could we have sent the crew that was running the "black site" in Egypt?
Hey, I'm just an old shoprat - but I think we need to hire a better grade of help, and cut back on what we sub out to "Thugs R Us".
A lot of our day labor goons turn out substandard product, and the quality control cost is killin' us.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 01:06 PM
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11. TORTURE is america's albatross
nt
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