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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 05:40 PM
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Abortion foes ‘stunned' (by Nelson D-Ne vote on health care)
Source: Omaha World Herald

By Joseph Morton

WASHINGTON — By declaring he will vote for the Senate health care bill, Ben Nelson touched off a firestorm of criticism Saturday on abortion.

Nebraska Right to Life said it had been “betrayed'' by the Nebraska Democrat, long an abortion opponent, who agreed to support compromise language on abortion.

His home-state colleague, Republican Mike Johanns, said he was “stunned and incredibly disappointed'' by Nelson's decision. And the chairman of the Nebraska Republican Party, Mark Fahleson, vowed that it was the “death knell'' for Nelson's political career.

Nelson said the outcry was over what amounted to a distinction without a difference on abortion.

Read more: http://www.omaha.com/article/20091220/NEWS01/712209910
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 05:46 PM
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1. "Abortion Foes Stunned" - Ahhh, headlines with multiple possible interpretations.. (nt)
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 06:04 PM
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3. LOL. I hope it was done with tasers.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 06:06 PM
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6. I'm with Brooklyn Liberal, would rather be stunning them with tasers...
Edited on Sun Dec-20-09 06:08 PM by johnfunk
... as they stand in a puddle of salt water outside a women's health center in freezing rain.

:evilgrin:
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fl_dem Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:20 PM
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19. I like the way you think n/t
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:39 PM
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21. Better to wrap them with electric fence and then turn the power on.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:00 PM
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24. Ooooo, me too. Especially the craziest ones, those who think one-celled beings have souls.
These are truly toxic.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:32 AM
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31. The trick is figuring out how many cells make a soul....
:)
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:41 AM
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32. Well, first they have to form a functioning neocortex. -nt
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:47 AM
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34. That does help.
:)
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:12 PM
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26. they needed to give him cash. no credit cards for Our Ben, poor dears.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 06:04 PM
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2. lol..
Nice to see that blue dogs who vote for this POS are going to pay a steep political price, too.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 06:05 PM
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4. Just taking care of business. n/t
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Loudmxr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 06:05 PM
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5. They won't be happy until abortion is criminalized.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 06:08 PM
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7. Their biggest supporters are the Future Backalley Abortionists of America
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DuckyCase Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:12 PM
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18. Don't forget about coat-hanger makers.
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 08:10 PM
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15. they won' be happy until ALL birth control is outlawed
*
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:41 PM
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22. I bet their mothers, wives and daughters had at least one abortion.
Oh, I forgot their current girl friends that were forced to have an abortion.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:16 AM
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29. They won't be happy until using birth control is criminalized
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:46 AM
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33. They won't be happy until SEX is criminalized.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 06:13 PM
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8. Nice Main Stream Media spin....Karl Rove would be beaming with pride


Nelson, the fucker who inserted language into the senate bill to stop insurance companies from offering abortion services, if they participated in the exchange and reduced the ability of women to gain insurance for abortion procedures and coverage....

He is now the guy who took on opposition.

Whatever.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 06:51 PM
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9. Insurers LOVE abortion. It saves them so much money. Their man, Nelson, was never
seriously gonna restrict insurance companies ability to encourage women to terminate their pregnancies.

As more young women contemplating pregnancy get private insurance (as opposed to the Medicaid they now use) look for insurers to have no- copay abortions...vs. $2500-5000 deductible obstetric care.

Right to Life never even had a chance.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 02:55 AM
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27. Then why don't insurers love birth control?
Why aren't they rushing to offer coverage for all contraceptives, rather than fighting to not cover them?

Wouldn't that save them even more money vs obstetric care? :shrug:

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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 06:57 PM
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10. Well, I'm stunned that the so-called Right to Lifers don't give a fuck if thousands die due to lack
of or lousy health care. Fuck those pea-brained zygote worshipers.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 07:09 PM
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11. Giddy maybe, but stunned?
His language virtually guarantees that no insurance money, much less federal money, will ever go to pay for abortions.

I should think that they are jumping up an down for joy.

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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 07:20 PM
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12. I have to wonder.
If nobody got an abortion, for a variety of personal reasons, but abortions were still legal, would not that amount to the same thing as what these people want?

Like make birth control methods readily available along with education in the use there of.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 08:25 PM
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17. Those Church Bishop Child Sodomizers don't like birth control either
according to them, women are tramps who deserve the punishment of pregnancy.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:25 PM
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20. Gratuitous anti-Catholic flame-bait
Tone it down.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:02 PM
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25. Anti-Catholic flame-bait? Maybe. Gratuitous? Hardly.
There's, you know, precedent.
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 10:36 PM
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40. Nope
Because to too many "pro-lifers", contraception is the same as abortion.

and telling kids about sex will mean they will all go out and have sex with anything that moves. (because clearly teen age hormones don't' activate until they go to sex ed class)

:crazy:

Yes there are people against abortion but ok with contraception. But they seem to be a shrinking minority.
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kiranon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 07:43 PM
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13. I'll believe it when I see his vote and not a moment before.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 07:47 PM
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14. You have to hand it to Ben this time.
This could cost him his Senate seat, but he done the right thing.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 08:14 PM
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16. How did he do the right thing? He stopped millions of Americans
from getting coverage they badly needed. And as far as I know, he worked hard and succeeded to make sure women cannot be covered by public money when they get an abortion. He got what he wanted. He was serving two masters, neither of them the American people. His Insurance Industry buddies were thrilled with him and they are his real masters. The right-to-lifers aren't as happy, but when it's a choice between those groups, Ben is with the Private Insurance Ind. Once he scored for them, the game was over for him.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:58 PM
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23. stunned. The republican party of lies and hate is stunned. GOOD /nt
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 05:00 AM
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28. Stunned ... still pinin' for the Vatican fjords
:evilgrin:

--d!
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:17 AM
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30. Why the hell are we trying to "compromise" with these fuckers?
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 10:43 AM
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35. I an stunned that they are stunned. Elections matter comrades.
Ben Nelson is a Democratic Senator even if he doesn't always act the part. Live with it or elect a Republican if you can.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:55 AM
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36. Don't they know that Sen. Noisome has to be bribed big time?
As to their being 'stunned': ;-) OL
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 12:11 PM
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37. I'm laughing like Ricky Ricardo over here.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:24 PM
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38. yep--he maneuvered the bill into what the insurance companies wanted
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:37 PM
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39. Good. I hope he gets hit coming and going on this one. nt
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 05:04 AM
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41. what it's like out there
Edited on Tue Dec-22-09 05:05 AM by NJCher
I know a bit about this state, having fled it in my early years because it is so back-asswards I couldn't tolerate living there another second.

Out in the hinterlands, you will drive and drive and drive and drive and drive forever without seeing much of anything BUT anti-abortion billboards. Yes, home-constructed ones, too, with awkwardly drawn pictures of vaginas with fetuses in them. Usually they use red paint for these and the message is always some imagined cry from the fetus about letting him/her live.

There's a brain drain out of that state and the midwest in general that has left the remaining population about 10 IQ points below the coasts.


Cher
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 05:43 AM
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42. Call them what they are: anti-choice. No one is pro-abortion, so "anti-abortion" is
not the correct term for these control freaks.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 07:59 AM
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43. Stunned? They ain't seen nothin' yet!
It's a new world, baby!
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