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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 10:39 AM
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Mass Murder In Fresno
(AP) Police officers responding to a child custody dispute arrived at a home to find nine bodies and 10 coffins - and a 57-year-old man they believe killed all the people in the house.

The victims were a 20-year-old woman, a 17-year-old girl and seven children ranging in age from 1 to 8. All were believed to be the children of Marcus Wesson, who surrendered to police after walking out of the house covered in what appeared to be blood.

It was a discovery so grisly that it reduced even veteran Police Chief Jerry Dyer to tears.

Link: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/13/national/main606125.shtml
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 10:40 AM
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1. Very sad news...
:(
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 10:43 AM
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2. Where's Newt?
Remember when Susan Smith murdered her children back in '93 or so, and Newt said if we wanted to stop horrible killings like these we better vote Republican? So much for that idea and Bush's "Culture of life". :eyes:

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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 10:45 AM
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3. I am still steaming about that woman in Utah...
Melissa Rowland(?) who has now been arrested for "killing" her child by allegedly not having a C-Section...so much for a better way of Life under refucklicans...
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 10:48 AM
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4. Utah is hell
What a gawdfersaken hellhole of whackanuts and superstitious numbnutted loons. And yes, she is finding life under Repub Rule to be just peachy, eh?
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 10:50 AM
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5. Well, some here thought it was a radical's paradise...
I always got a laugh out of that!


PS-It's not.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 10:52 AM
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6. Susan Smith's punishment fit the crime
I was very happy that she didn't get the death penalty. I'm glad she's having to live with what she did...AND in a predominately black environment.

:headbang:
rocknation
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:51 AM
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17. In any event
These kinds of horrible killings - insular, in private - have nothing to do with politics or who is 'in charge' - human depravity takes no holidays and plays no favorites among class, race, or gender.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:49 AM
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18. Here's the quote, and thank you!
This is the same Gingrich who days before the 1994 election chose to exploit the horror of Susan Smith, the South Carolina woman who had drowned her two toddlers in the backseat of her car.

"How a mother can kill her two children,14 months and 3 years, in hopes that her boyfriend would like her is just a sign of how sick the system is," observed Gingrich, "and I think people want to change. The only way you get change is to vote Republican."


Four years later, Speaker Gingrich led a "family values" House Republican lynch mob bent on stringing up and impeaching the faithless and lying husband who was the president of the United States and a Democrat.

It later became public that for more than five years, the married Gingrich had been carrying on a torrid affair with a younger, unmarried Capitol Hill staffer. And to think that Gingrich used to charge his political adversaries were "the enemy of normal Americans."
(snip/...)

http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/11/02/column.shields.opinion.gingrich/

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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 10:59 PM
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21. You're forgetting the rest. Susan Smith had been sexually
Edited on Sun Mar-14-04 11:00 PM by SharonAnn
abused by her stepfather since she was something like 12 years old, and it continued all the way through her marriage.

Her stepfather was the Chair of the Republican party in that town.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 11:03 AM
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7. I saw this on the news last night in LA
What a horrid story, to put it mildly. :scared:
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 11:54 AM
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8. Fresno... hmmmm.....
... I wonder if the homicidal nutjob was a FReeper....
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 08:16 PM
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9. not very likely, being a black man and all
not that that has anything to do with it, but I dont recall any people of color associating with the freeks here in town. I just (unintentionally) drove near the scene and saw the bus in the driveway and a number of media remote vans. Ironic when you consider these media companies will not give you their attention when you have something to say about the greater violence in Haiti that we all bear a greater responsibility for.
http://www.indybay.org/news/2004/03/1673175.php
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:40 AM
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16. Yes, must have been some toothless white trailer trash Republican
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 10:16 PM
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10. related article: Nine Dead in California Saga of Incest, Polygamy
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=domesticNews&storyID=4561897§ion=news

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - A California man is to be charged with murder on Saturday after nine bodies -- including children he apparently fathered in incestuous, polygamous relationships -- were found in his home, police said.

<snip>

"It appears that there's four women that we believe that are the mothers of children ... that were killed, that (Wesson) is perhaps the father of most if not all of the individuals that were there," he said.

"The most disturbing news ... was the fact that perhaps two of the children that were found deceased were both his children and his grandchildren."

Wesson, who was in custody and was cooperating with the investigation, would be charged with nine counts of murder later on Saturday, the police chief said.

...more...

tragic, simply tragic
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 03:18 AM
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11. detective work
Ten empty coffins were found in the house, police said, though their intended use had not yet been determined. Dyer said they may have been used for clothing storage, or were to be broken down and used to build furniture.

Let's recap: nine dead bodies and ten empty coffins. Yes, definitely a furniture motive.
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 03:27 AM
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13. To make flippant comments about this type of crime is to die inside
(This is no commentary on you)
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 08:54 AM
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14. I recall a similar case in Arkansas a number of years ago.
The death toll may have been even higher.Same sort of depravity;polygamy,children who were also grandchildren,really deplorable.The setting was rural,not urban.Clinton was governor at the time.The man accused was sentenced to die and made no effort at appeal.
He was executed maybe two years after the crime.It was about the shortest length between conviction and execution I ever saw.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:32 AM
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15. related article: Fresno massacre's grisly puzzle
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/8184125.htm

excerpt:

One of Wesson's sons said he didn't believe his father was responsible for the killings.

``He was a good father. He wasn't abusive at all,'' said Dorian Wesson, 29, who lives in Santa Cruz. ``He was born in Kansas, lived in San Jose and moved to Fresno to buy and sell houses. He belongs to the Seventh-day Adventists and writes books, too.''

...more...


so I did a search and here is what I found (I do not know if this is the same person):

http://www.marcuswesson.com/aboutmarcus.html

After spending a childhood illustrating, writing and immersed in photography and art classes, Marcus Wesson set off to satisfy his hunger for art and the creative process by enrolling in the highly-touted University of Texas creative sequence. There, he consumed a steady diet of Bernbach, Burnett and Ogilvy.

In 1994, armed with a degree in advertising and the determination to push the envelope and spice up the bland and safe advertising landscape, Wesson ventured off to Fogarty Klein & Monroe in Houston, Texas. Within his first couple of months there, he beat out well-seasoned creatives to win his first award for a Houston Astros outdoor board.

In 1996, Wesson moved on to TBWA Chiat/Day and produced work for Nissan, Infiniti and Absolut Vodka.

...more...



Art Directors: Ed Miller and Marcus Wesson
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:22 PM
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19. No I dont believe this is the same Marcus Wesson
nice work though, if you can stomach advertising/marketing. I stand with Bill Hicks here, though :P
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Roaming Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 08:52 PM
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20. May God rest the souls of the poor women and children he
killed. And comfort to their grieving family members.

There are probably more bizarre details to come out soon. I read somewhere that some sort of "ritual" may have been involved in the slayings.
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