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Sub Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 10:33 AM
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Madoff treated for facial fractures, broken ribs
Source: ABC News

DURHAM, NC (WTVD) -- ABC11 Eyewitness News has learned that Bernie Madoff was treated for serious injuries consistent with an assault.

Sources told ABC11 the disgraced financier was treated at Duke hospital in Durham last Friday and discharged earlier this week.

He is serving a life sentence at the federal prison in Butner.

According to sources, he had facial fractures, broken ribs and a collapsed lung.


Read more: http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=7187293



Merry Christmas Bernie!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 10:35 AM
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1. In no way do I condone that type of behavior.
/s
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Sub Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 10:37 AM
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3. I noticed you didn't condemn it either.
:rofl:
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 10:49 AM
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11. That is quite a working over. I would have thought Madoff had some protection money squirreled away.
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backwoodsbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 08:11 PM
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105. guess it sucks to join the real world
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 06:04 PM
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93. As much as I hate the son-of-a-bitch, prison should not be a place of revenge.
We are not a pack of inhuman animals.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 06:43 PM
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100. Absolutely. I had a young friend who went to prison over anger issues
and then made a mistake and was sent back one day after being paroled. My sister and I wrote to him the entire time he was in there and he was afraid. The administration of this prison is obviously not doing a very good job.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 12:24 AM
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112. I understand. I (and many people) do not know what truly goes on ....
...behind prison walls.....and a part of me...which I am ashamed of...does not want to know.
It's like so much misery passes before our eyes that we are almost afraid to see any more.
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 10:37 AM
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2. Did he pick a fight with the wrong person?
Or was somebody paid to mess him up?
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 10:37 AM
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4. looks like somebody who lost everything hired some prison help
n/t
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 10:42 AM
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5. The dude got Berlusconied
Edited on Thu Dec-24-09 10:43 AM by SpiralHawk
uncool
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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 10:44 AM
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6. Is it bad that im feeling warm n fussy about this?
esp considering what he has done to soo many people?
a little brutal justice n all that.
But notice he went to a NICE hospital as opposed to being treated at the prison infirmary.

just sayin...karma's a bitch
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sandrakae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:18 AM
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29. I was wondering that myself.
How many prisoners go to cushy hospitals?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 01:53 PM
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73. If they have a collapse lung they are sent to a hospital to treat it.
Edited on Thu Dec-24-09 01:57 PM by merh
Infirmaries and prison clinics do not have the resources (doctors) to provide the proper care. They don't keep doctors on staff 24/7.

Most inmates with life threatening injuries are sent out to hospitals. Many prisons send inmates that are victims of this type of an assault out for x-rays to be sure they don't have internal injuries or head injuries, etc.

The federal prison system (BPO) is a very well run, very humane operation, they don't take prisoner abuse or inmate on inmate violence likely.

Even the likes of Madoff doesn't deserve to be brutally attacked in such a manner. The internal investigation that is happening as a result will uncover the whys and the hows.



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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 02:20 PM
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80. I worked in a hospital near San Quention. Inmates were treated there when...
their medical conditions exceeded the prison infirmary capabilities. Believe me, Bernie ain't seeing NICE. No guests, no candy stripers, china or metal utensils. Plastic trays, sporks, and guards assigned to his in an isolated room is the order of the day. Oh, he may not be using that plastic spork as his jaw may be wired shut so he's probably drinking his meals through a straw.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 03:27 PM
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87. I didn't notice that until you pointed it out
I'm sure the prison officials were doing whatever they could to watch out for him in this situation, it hurts future plea bargain deals in the future if white collar criminals know there's a significant chance that they'll get beaten up. Perhaps sending him to Duke was a way to try to save some face here.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 10:47 AM
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8. HA! Havocdad was betting on slow poisoning sending him to hospital
I have my money on plastic surgery and a new life....

Facial fractures? Uh-huh, it's a good place to start.

Odds seem to be leaning my way. ;)
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:21 AM
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33. Wonder if he gets the same plastic sturgeon as Ken Lay.
Yes, that was intentional misspelling.
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atomic-fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 02:10 PM
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79. yep nt
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 10:47 AM
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9. Amazing the people who praise prison torture when...
its the "right" people. :eyes:
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 10:49 AM
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12. It's not official torture when it is another prisoner. Only if the guards are doing the
beating could it be put in the same category.

Nice try, though.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 10:50 AM
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13. Sure....
:rofl:

Prison rape is also cheered by a lot of people.

Nice try though.
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sandrakae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:19 AM
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31. Now you got me thinking. Are we sure another prisoner did this?
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 03:30 PM
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88. We can never be sure
but when was the last time you heard of someone falling out of bed and breaking their face?

Maybe he fell on a fist.
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sandrakae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 08:19 PM
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106. or maybe a guard beat him up.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 09:04 AM
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118. Nope, that would leave too much physical evidence on the correctional officer
They'd be much more likely to let some violent thug do it, instead. It's not that hard to put any two people together in a penal institution. I had a couple of friends who worked at a state prison in the town where I lived, man, the stories they could tell... And they were the "good" CO's.
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 02:07 PM
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78. Damn, now if only the CIA had hired other Iraqis to torture instead of doing it themselves
then it would of been A-OK!
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:13 AM
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25. You just have to HATE them enough, I guess. Economic terrorist, political/religious terrorist...
Does seem like physical abuse ("enhanced interrogation techniques", excuse me) is justified if you hate someone enough.

Thanks for the post.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:15 AM
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26. There just seems to be a disconnect...
Is prison for the assigned punisment or the "unofficial" kind? People should really think about it.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:05 PM
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52. They don't want to think
Prisons aren't meant to reform convicts; they are meant to exact all sorts of punishments that our civilized laws prevent us from administering.
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 09:42 PM
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110. Isn't that the truth?
People amaze me, sometimes. No one should be treated this way. No one. And it says volumes about a person that this would be okay with them just because it's Bernie Madoff.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 03:23 AM
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117. I do not condone it
I am not yet at a place where I am ready to condemn it either.

I'm just not there yet.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 10:51 AM
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14. Maybe he has the wrong attitude for where he is..
I doubt the people there want to be treated as inferiors as those with money tend to do to the general masses.
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skyounkin Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 10:52 AM
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15. My first thought was
it took this long for someone to kick that scumbags ass?

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 10:54 AM
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16. They wanted to make it look like an accident...
:spray: :rofl:

sounds like bernie's gone and make himself some prison "buddies".
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 10:55 AM
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17. Somebody made their bones
or whatever the phrase is when they beat down a high profile prisoner. I bet that guy doesn't have to worry too much about bending over in the shower these days.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:01 PM
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50. I think that's a very good explanation.
Doesn't have to be anything he did. Although why I should feel any need to find him innocent in this, I can't imagine.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 10:57 AM
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18. Hope this story makes the Wall Street Journal and Roll Call
Everyone -- and I mean everyone -- needs to hear it.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:23 AM
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35. I have it on good word that these kind of things serve as a deterrence.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:00 AM
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19. ah, I was waiting for the excuse they are going to use for letting that scum out of prison--anyone
want to take a guess as to how long before he is released, for his own safety or some such crap?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:23 AM
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36. I think they'll put him in solitary first.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:28 AM
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38. Approximately a year
I'll bet 2 smashing head against brick wall smileys.

:banghead: :banghead:

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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:01 AM
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20. Madoff is now badoff?
I'm surprised he's lasted this long. When you screw rich people outta their dough, they have the means to have you "taken care of".
I figured he got a death sentence when he went to prison. Maybe even some mean somebitch who just don't like white-collar thieves decided he was having it too good.

No sympathy for Bernie. He slept with the devil!
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:09 AM
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21. Sorry to put a damper on the glee,
But this happens too often for it to be even remotely appreciated. Prisons are brutal places, and getting beaten in that way is just outrageous. Jail terms are wasted time for the watcher and the watched, and there has to be a better way to deal with things.

Both the guards and the prisoners knew...had to know...that this was coming. That it was allowed to happen is disgusting.
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Sub Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:12 AM
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24. What do you suggest they do? Wrap him in bubble wrap?
IMNSHO, he deserves far worse than a beat down.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:16 AM
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27. As do people who set off car bombs in public markets, right?
You just have to hate enough and all kinds of punishment are justifiable.
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Sub Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:23 AM
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34. His fate should have been decided by those whom he stole from.
A good old-fashioned Biblical stoning would have been the best punishment for him. Perhaps the other scam artists would think twice before they stole from another victim.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:39 AM
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44. Victims' revenge is justifiably outlawed.
Edited on Thu Dec-24-09 11:40 AM by robcon
All people should face the same laws under our constitution.

No special punishment by his victims. Equal justice under the law.
His sentence should be based on laws, not revenge.
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 01:39 PM
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70. Agreed
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 08:28 PM
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107. Where is the sarcasm thingy? You cannot be serious - this is not
FreeRepublic.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 03:42 PM
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89. Let's get rid of those pesky courts and juries, while we're at it.
They really slow down the wheels of Vengeance, don't they?
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 02:48 AM
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114. Not bubble wrap - solitary
He's been sentenced to serve time, not face a gauntlet.
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kiranon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 01:00 PM
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66. Agree. n/t
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Dan Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 07:28 PM
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102. you cannot stop it.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:10 AM
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22. In the spirit of Christmas eve, I will behave
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:12 AM
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23. Good.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:18 AM
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28. He got beat up in a federal prison?
Does that happen very often?
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:30 AM
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39. You KNOW he had to be one annoying fucker for that to happen. n/t
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:19 AM
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30. A while back
Edited on Thu Dec-24-09 11:21 AM by 90-percent
Like 10 or 15 years ago maybe, Connecticut was running radio ads about statutory rape of under aged people. They were selling it based on how child molesters are treated in prison. Remember - seduce a 14 year old and you'll end up in a place with big muscular sociopaths who will homosexually rape you in the prison showers.

I thought it was cute that the state used this additional cruel and unusual punishment to make their point.

Bernie was sentenced to serve time for his crime. His sentence didn't include getting beat up so bad he got broken bones. This was not proscribed by his judge as part of his sentence. Getting beat up this bad in prison sure reeks of cruel and unusual punishment to me!

-90% jimmy
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:26 AM
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37. Look at it this way...
...a few high profile prisoners are going to have to get beaten up, before anyone suddenly decides to do anything about it. Prison reform would have come about sooner if our justice system had been fairer, landing more white collar criminals in jail years ago.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:20 AM
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32. Maybe he took cartons of cigarettes into prison with him to buy "protection"
...not realizing smoking has been banned from such institutions for many years?
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:34 AM
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41. awful. i know he is not a nice guy but i do condemn violence.
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katkat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:37 AM
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42. I thought they put "high profile" prisoners in some sort
of separate area to prevent this sort of thing.
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katkat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:41 AM
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45. I don't actually feel too badly for Madoff's victims
most seemed to be wealthy people who felt entitled to make a bunch more money than we peons, or organizations run by the same.

That said, prison should be prison, not a torture chamber.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:58 PM
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65. He also stole from charity trust funds, and the retirement accounts of elderly folks.
Anyone who gets beat up in prison does so with the consent of the guards. I worked in a lock-up once. If the guards felt that someone deserved worse than he was getting, they'd leave him unsupervised with someone really dangerous. I always figured that's what happened to Jeffery Dahmer.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:49 AM
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47. If he had just tortured and killed some foreigners
he wouldn't even be in prison. Or if he had the right friends the taxpayers would have bailed him out before he got caught and he'd be celebrated as a financial genius.

Our prison system badly needs reform. It's easy to understand Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo if you know anything about the US prison system. It was no surprise that one of the few actual perpetrators of the crimes at Abu Ghraib prosecuted, was formerly a US prison guard.

Madoff or any of the other people who are assaulted in US prisons every day is nothing to cheer about. It's sad to see people applauding this. More and more I wonder about this country and whether the right cheering on the photos from Abu Ghraib was really representative of America in general after all. I used to think the 'left' was better. Doesn't look that way, just depends on the politics.

Madoff wasn't sentenced to death. And someone is responsible for his safety. Or have we sunk so low that once someone ends up in prison they are no longer entitled to humane treatment?
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:51 AM
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48. Merry Christmas?
for him, it's Happy Hannukah...just sayin'
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:55 AM
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49. And because it happened to someone we don't like, it's even okay! (nt)
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:04 PM
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51. sounds like he's pissing off people in jail now too
of course that's an assumption based on this fuck-up's behavior outside of jail.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:09 PM
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54. Maybe he's got a Ponzi scheme for stealing cigarettes
:)
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:10 PM
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56. He's probably pathological enough for that
to be the case
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:31 PM
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59. Ha ha ha hah
:spray:
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 01:44 PM
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72. No, cigarettes has been banned
From the fed lockups. The hot commodity is stamps because it holds value.

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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:09 PM
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53. Butner is the federal prison hospital
for the criminally insane. Bernie was just in the wrong place at the right time. Some nut probably beat the shit out of him for reasons unbeknownst to man or science.
The convicted New York State Supreme Court justice who got sent there was stabbed for no apparent reason.
Most federal prisoners who get sent there because they feel crazy are usually "cured" in two weeks.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:10 PM
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55. He is a lowlife but I don't approve of prison beatings
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:22 PM
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57. And DU becomes an outpost for Freeperism.
Christ, now we applaud prison violence? :puke:
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 01:29 PM
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69. that's a stretch...eom
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:26 PM
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58. Karma...? I'd say the banksters and anyone who's ripping people off like this should take note.
There are lots of people out there that believe in this kind of justice.

Just sayin'.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:40 PM
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60. I abhor violence yet this doesn't surprise me
Edited on Thu Dec-24-09 12:41 PM by lunatica
because it's obvious violence is endemic in our society. It really disappoints me that some one or some group of people beat up on a 70 year old. Do those people think they're righteous in doing that or do they just like breaking bones? Madoff should be separated from the general population if he's a target.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:46 PM
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61. I denounce and reject the violence, having said that there are a lot more crooks on wall street
that could use some of the same.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:57 PM
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64. And I denounce and reject the illegal invasion, having said that there are a lot of dictators out
there who could use some of the same. And I believe in peace, except when violence is required to make my point. ;)
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scytherius Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:46 PM
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62. What a sad nation in which we live
This guy is scum. Absolute scum. But the punishment is life in prison, NOT getting the shit beat out of you while in prison.

So THIS is what we are as a people? We allow old men to get beaten up in prison?

This Nation deserves everything bad that happens to it. We are no better than the worst of Nations.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 02:33 PM
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121. Live in prison
loses it's bite when you have already lived your lifetime.

I would think life in prison for a healthy 20 year old is vastly different than life in prison for a cancer ridden 70 year old.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:50 PM
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63. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 01:04 PM
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67. I wish I could care. But there are millions of Americans whose lives
have been destroyed by financial fraudsters of every stripe, most of whom go unarrested, much less punished.

Maybe when 47 million more Americans have access to medical care, have a decent place to live, and have decent jobs, I could care. Right now, no time.

Perhaps he can buy some friends.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 01:20 PM
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68. Fellow inmate: "His whole motto was 'F*** my victims'"`
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 01:41 PM
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71. That's nothing to celebrate.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 01:53 PM
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74. Stupid, does nothing but show that we as a society love violence.
Does it bring back any of the money the people he screwed over lost? I didn't think so. Pointless.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 01:57 PM
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75. We need to reduce our prison populations and make them safer and places for rehab, not violence.
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Prospero1 Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 02:01 PM
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76. What happened to him....
is certainly wrong but I find it hard to muster much sympathy for him - he destroyed a lot of lives. On the other hand, how many INNOCENT or non-violent inmates are beaten and raped every day in our prisons? If the system functions this way, prison has effectively become "cruel and Unusual" punishment. Yet, how many times have we seen smirking assholes in the media joking about prison rape? You can judge a society by how it treats prisoners. Sometimes this country disgusts me.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 02:05 PM
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77. I'd like to know who's inside guy got to Madoff...
:shrug:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 02:31 PM
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81. Even if I could take pleasure in an old man getting badly beaten
it's hard to find any of this encouraging when the vast majority of the Wall Street criminals are walking around free and getting their giant bonuses courtesy of you and me and the rest of the taxpayers.

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trekbiker Donating Member (724 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 02:57 PM
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82. the good news is
that SOB will live the rest of his days behind bars in absolute terror waiting for the next beating....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 03:02 PM
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 03:08 PM
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85. Just more evidence . . .
of what everybody already knows - that for child molesters, white-collar criminals, gays, and anybody not affiliated with gang culture or 'street life,' prison is a place where one is routinely extorted, beaten, and generally taken advantage of. Of course it's hard to have sympathy for such a terrible person, especially since he knew full well what was in store for him in prison and still chose to to what he did. That being said, the state has an obligation to ensure the basic human rights of its citizens, particularly prisoners whom it feeds, clothes, and houses - and this is just a high-profile example of its unwillingness to do that. Everybody knows the system tacitly endorses the extortion of weaker inmates in the hopes of channeling the aggression of violent predators away from staff.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 03:17 PM
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86. People in glee over this are sick in the head.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 06:39 PM
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99. Agreed.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 05:37 PM
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90. Probably being shaken down by people who want their f-ing money.
I am sure there are a few in federal prison who were either scammed by him or know someone scammed by him. Maybe they think he had it all squirreled away in Israel or Switzerland.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 05:48 PM
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91. While we can never condone this
we need to look at the behavior he engaged in that may have brought this attack on himself.
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 05:58 PM
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92. It would have been more humane to cut off his head and
put it on a pike and post it outside Wall Street office of Goldman Sachs.

Torturing him slowly in prison seems cruel and unjust in comparison.
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WinterParkDonkey Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 06:12 PM
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95. No tears for Madoff
By nature I am not a violent person and do not condone vengence, but folks I can understand how people feel about this guy. My aunt -- who is almost 80 years old -- and a retired executive with the Avon Corporation has lost everything she worked her entire life for because of this guy. She invested in one of the feeder funds that supplied Madoff with an almost bottomless pit of money -- Fairfield. She has nothing left. She is also the sole support for her granddaughter who is ill. My pity goes to people more worthy.
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 06:21 PM
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96. Very sorry - my remark was a bit tongue and cheek
I would very much like to see his head chopped off and put on a pike. Paying for his upkeep in prison knowing the other inmates and guards will torture him is just a waste and mocks justice. This man was a key participant in a global financial disaster that caused suffering for a hundred million or more.

A very efficient and public death seems like the only proper way to punish him and discourage others now following in his footsteps. We kill people for much less than this man's crimes.
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WinterParkDonkey Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 06:35 PM
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98. No harm intended....
I am just sorry that most of Madoff's victims are protrayed as wealthy investors that won't "miss" the money. Its just like Enron. Here in Orlando there were several retirees that lost their life savings after Enron imploded.

Kerry Christmas
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 06:12 PM
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94. K&R
:D
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 06:23 PM
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97. Just proves the fact that prisons aren't nice places to be.
Full of dangerous and violent people.

Many of whom have nothing to lose, and would gladly beat the crap out of another convict for a few bucks paid to their families on the outside.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 10:48 AM
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119. I think that maybe he got off easy
Think about it, what would hurt him more, a beating in prison or knowing someone out there was taking his family out? For all the people he screwed over and pensions that were stolen, the union pensions that were totally emptied, the charities such as the Holocaust survivor one that was bankrupted... it surprises me his wife still breathes.

It's not like there aren't active organized crime syndicates or anything.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 06:52 PM
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101. "He fell down" other prisoners were heard to say.
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 02:56 AM
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116. It is possible that he simply fell.
I would not spend much time and money trying to figure it out.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 07:34 PM
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103. um; since when did prisoners get treated at Duke medical center??
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 08:29 PM
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108. When injuries are so serious they can't treat them at the prison. nt
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 07:37 PM
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104. Two choices- neither of them good- either he's kept in solitary or gets beaten
He's worse off than the pedophiles he keeps company with.
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 08:38 PM
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109. Somebody will pay for this........
you never leave a victim to be a witness.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 09:55 PM
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 02:48 AM
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115. Take your Nazi filth back to Stormfront where it and you belong.
Your stench is enough to gag a mule.
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 01:48 PM
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120. Dang.....I'm sorry I missed what you were replying to but like your
response anyway!!
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 09:18 PM
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122. It was the usual stuff about the Jooooos and Jonathon Pollard.
Edited on Fri Dec-25-09 09:18 PM by Jim Sagle
And about how Mossad probably ordered the assault.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:01 PM
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124. I FART in your general direction, good sir.
:monocle:
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 12:52 AM
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113. I thought this POS was supposed to go to a country club facility.
Did he get attacked by the swimming pool towel boy?
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:00 PM
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123. As long as no one kills or rapes him, I don't see why ol' Bernie shouldn't get facepunched a little
for how he destroyed thousands of Americans' lives.
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