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StarfarerBill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 03:11 PM
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Pakistan Taliban say they carried out CIA attack
Source: Associated Press

MIR ALI, Pakistan – The Pakistani Taliban claimed Friday that they used a turncoat CIA operative to carry out a suicide bombing that killed seven American CIA employees in Afghanistan as revenge for a top militant leader's death in a U.S. missile strike.

The announcement was nearly impossible to verify independently because it involves covert operations in a dangerous region. It is highly unusual for the Pakistani Taliban to claim credit for an attack in Afghanistan, and the proclamation followed indications the Afghan Taliban may have been involved in the attack.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100101/ap_on_re_as/as_pakistan_cia_attack
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 03:14 PM
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1. So in other words
The CIA got hit by their own franchise operation, the ISI?

Damn, and I thought corporate downsizing was brutal. Guess when the CIA decides to fire you, they make it permanent. Just ask Bill Casey about that.
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 03:34 PM
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2. We are going to be in deep sh$t if the ISI
100% turns on us.

Considering we are killing many innocent Paki's, It's hard to see how they won't turn on us.
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Flaneur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 04:24 PM
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3. Payback for the drones. CIA just got bitch slapped.
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SandWalker1984 Donating Member (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 04:27 PM
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4. Why is the CIA in Afghanistan in large numbers in the first place?
I looked up the CIA on wikipedia to see what the "job description" actually is for the CIA. I found this:

The 1947 National Security Act established the CIA, affording it "NO police or law enforcement functions, either at home or abroad". One year later, this mandate was expanded to include "sabotage, anti-sabotage, demolition and evacuation measures...subversion assistance to underground resistance movements, guerrillas and refugee liberation movements, and support of indigenous anti-communist elements in threatened countries of the free world".

The CIA's primary function is to collect information about foreign governments, corporations, and individuals, and to advise public policymakers.
The agency conducts covert operations and paramilitary actions, and exerts foreign political influence through its Special Activities Division. The CIA and its responsibilities changed markedly in 2004. Before December 2004, the CIA was the main intelligence organization of the US government; it coordinated and oversaw not only its own activities but also the activities of the US Intelligence Community (IC) as a whole. The Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 created the office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI), which took over some of the government and IC-wide functions.

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It appears the CIA is engaging in all sorts of activities that they were specifically denied being allowed to carry out by our government.

Articles elsewhere tie the CIA directly to the recent killing of 8 Afghan children who were dragged out of their homes and shot.

This could explain the suicide bombing that killed several CIA members.


Want to see an end to "terrorist" threats to the US? Get out of their countries and quit using CIA and other alphabets to meddle in the governmental affairs of those countries.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 04:41 PM
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5. An excellent question.
My opinion is that it is a sign of desperation, we have been there 9 years now, and we have accomplished nothing useful and much that is pernicious.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 09:54 PM
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8. Accomplishment is subjective
I would assume the current administration is using the cia to find and kill people who are funding and running the opposition. Rather than using force to wipe kleenexes out they are trying to find people worth the trouble of killing.

Accomplishment here will not be a ribbon and some hill taken. Not like the afghans are going to elect a parliament and start up a symphony.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 09:41 AM
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16. Sort of like chasing ghosts then?
Ephemeral, nebulous, vague, not well understood?
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 09:12 PM
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6. Probably because of the new and improved strategy.
Don't hold and occupy outposts. Instead, you target individuals and small groups and send in groups of Seals (or similar groups).

To figure out where the groups of enemies are lurking, you don't just throw a dart at the map. You need people to look at intelligence--human, satellite, drone, telecom intercepts. You need people to translate and piece together the information.

Moreover, given where it is, a fair amount of that information might not come from within the "theatre of operations" itself. The military is limited to the NW of the Durand Line. The CIA operates in Pakistan. Moreover, the CIA would have access to more info from Pakistan, Uzbekistan, and other places that the Taliban and AQ and other allied groups have links with.

For that you need NSA and CIA. NSA doesn't do so much abroad. CIA does.

CIA.

As for revenge, I keep having to wonder why the 40% or so of the civilian dead in this conflict that the US/NATO are responsible for are so much more important than the 60% or so of the civilians that the Taliban are responsible for. Of course, it's rhetorical wondering, to coin a phrase.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 09:49 PM
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7. It is that old counterinsurgency move where you make your enemy afraid
of the 'asset' they used to trust.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 01:32 AM
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9. CIA renegade behind suicide attack: Taliban
Source: ABC News

CIA renegade behind suicide attack: Taliban

By Washington correspondent Kim Landers

Posted 4 hours 59 minutes ago
Updated 4 hours 8 minutes ago

The Pakistani Taliban is claiming it used a turncoat CIA agent to carry out a suicide bombing at a CIA camp in Afghanistan.

Seven agents were killed and six injured in Thursday's suicide bombing in eastern Afghanistan.

A Pakistani Taliban member says a CIA agent had contacted the Taliban and offered to attack the US intelligence operation in Afghanistan.

He says the Taliban trained the CIA agent and sent the suicide bomber to the camp as revenge for a top militant leader's death in a US missile strike.

A CIA spokesman says he cannot confirm the claim and that there is a lot about the attack that is not known.


Read more: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/01/02/2784140.htm
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 01:32 AM
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10. id bet he was an assett not an agent,
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 01:32 AM
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11. Or the CIA and Taliban are still united in creating "false flag" events . . .
CIA was financing Taliban up to 9/11 . . .

and who knows what they were doing post-9/11 -- !!!

Or now, for that matter!!
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RainMickey Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 01:32 AM
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12. Wouldn't surprise me to learn the CIA was working....
....against our president. Revenge.
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denbot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 01:32 AM
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15. .
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Andronex Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 01:32 AM
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13. I agree...
there is something else going on here and I don't believe the Taliban were involved.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 01:32 AM
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14. Like the nuke we set off to create the tsunami..ugh
what a shame this place is sometimes.
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