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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 10:09 AM
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Ex-SEAL killed in suicide attack was Xe employee
Edited on Wed Jan-06-10 10:11 AM by RamboLiberal
Source: Hampton Roads Pilot

Jeremy Wise, the former Navy SEAL killed in a suicide bomber's attack on a CIA base in Afghanistan last week, was working for Xe, the Moyock, N.C.-based security company previously known as Blackwater.

Wise's Xe affiliation is disclosed in an obituary published in today's Virginian-Pilot.

Wise was one of eight people killed in the Dec. 30 blast in Khost province. News reports Tuesday identified the suicide bomber as a Jordanian double agent and said seven of the victims were CIA-affiliated. The eighth was a Jordanian military officer.

CNN had reported earlier that two of the CIA casualties were Xe contractors. Asked about the report, a Xe spokeswoman declined to comment.

The company typically does not publicly identify contractors who are killed in action.



Read more: http://hamptonroads.com/2010/01/exseal-killed-suicide-attack-was-xe-employee



I'd like to ask the Obama Administration why the F' Blackwater is still being employed as mercs and hitmen by the U.S. Government. Yeah change we can believe in my ass!

I heard Rachel report on this last night but so far today as far as MSM media is concerned it sounds like crickets on this story as far as I can tell. Now I'm at work so I haven't been able to check that close but I did not see the story on either MSNBC or CNN's website today.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 10:11 AM
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1. Well I won't cry a tear for that one.
n.t.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 10:12 AM
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2. Same here - like a lot of DU'ers as soon as we heard
the story we were betting Blackwater would be part of it. And remember early in the story they were reporting contractors were killed.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 10:18 AM
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3. The CIA's own private army. Fucking lovely.
I'm watching "Jericho" again to brush up on future events.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 10:20 AM
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4. Weeping for the lose of a Praetorian guard.
somehow I just can't find the tears.

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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 10:20 AM
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5. color me shocked.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 10:55 AM
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6. If they so freely kill, should we be so freely sorry. I'm just sorry for this coutnry, this
barbarian invading country whose leaders still try to tell us that they are defending us when NEARLY EVERYONE KNOWS IT'S FOR and in defense of THE CORPORATIONS/BARONS so that they can safely take the earth resources.

All this wealth being gathered up and stored for the rich. All this wealth being taken from the people.

They are arrogant in their agenda which is on a fast pace and they don't give a darn that we know what they are doing.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 11:05 AM
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7. 2 paychecks or what?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 11:08 AM
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8. They big bad navy seals & all so easily duped by that little bastard.
National security my ass.

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 11:15 AM
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9. I've worked with those ex Navy SEALs in an earlier life.....
Edited on Wed Jan-06-10 11:16 AM by formercia
I was in their unit for over a Year.

Just like Marines have their Mindset, these 'true believers', for the most part, are pretty gullible.

These are the people the CIA needs to get rid of.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 02:46 PM
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10. Ex-SEAL killed in suicide attack was Xe employee
Source: Virginian Pilot

Ex-SEAL killed in suicide attack was Xe employee

By Bill Sizemore
The Virginian-Pilot
© January 6, 2010

VIRGINIA BEACH

Jeremy Wise, the former Navy SEAL killed in a suicide bomber's attack on a CIA base in Afghanistan last week, was working for Xe, the Moyock, N.C.-based security company previously known as Blackwater.

Wise's Xe affiliation is disclosed in an obituary published in today's Virginian-Pilot.

Wise was one of eight people killed in the Dec. 30 blast in Khost province. News reports Tuesday identified the suicide bomber as a Jordanian double agent and said seven of the victims were CIA-affiliated. The eighth was a Jordanian military officer.



Read more: http://hamptonroads.com/2010/01/exseal-killed-suicide-attack-was-xe-employee
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 02:46 PM
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11. Blackwater/Xe employee may have been the "perimeter guard" who failed to pat down the bomber.
Edited on Wed Jan-06-10 12:34 PM by leveymg
Here's the most complete account that I could find of what happened that identifies the roles of the victims. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Pak-tribesman-killed-7-CIA-agents-and-trust/articleshow/5407756.cms

Intelligence circles are now slowly piecing together what really happened in Forward Operating Base Chapman near the Pakistan border last Wednesday when a Taliban suicide bomber detonated a suicide vest killing eight people, including an Afghan security director and an American perimeter security guard who had escorted him inside – unchecked, unscreened, and unfrisked.

According to intelligence accounts, the suicide bomber was a previously trusted Pakistani informant of the Waziri tribe who was often picked up from a border crossing by a trusted Afghan security director named Arghawan and driven to the base. Because he was a familiar figure brought in by a known person (some reports said he had visited the base multiple times), screening him was not on anyone’s radar particularly since he had been ‘won’ over by trusting him and he had previously delivered valuable information enabling US agencies to conduct accurate drone strikes, which was the principal mandate of FOB Chapman.

SNIP


Although, the US government has declined to release the names of the killed, the families of the victims have been grieving publicly, as a result of which some of the names have been disclosed in local media.

Among the victims was Harold Brown, a Washington DC area resident who was father of three children, and whose mother believed he was a state department employee even as worked undercover in the front trenches of a nasty war. Another operative was an Ohio native named Scott Roberson who was expecting to become a father in February. A third victim was a former Navy Seal Jeremy Wise who was working as a security contractor.

The name of the female base chief, who was mother of three children, was not disclosed. At least five of the operatives who were on the rolls of the CIA will be memorialized with a star on the wall of the CIA headquarters in Langley shortly.


NOTE: In point of fact, the bomber was actually not a Pakistani, but a Jordanian doctor with Jihadist ties, recruited through Jordanian Intelligence.

The fact that guards admitted the bomber without patting him for weapons or explosives has been confirmed in other reports, including a Military Times story that states that three Xe guards were among the casualties, none of whom apparently thought to search the informant before letting him into a room crowded with CIA intelligence officers flown especially for the occasion: http://www.militarytimes.com/news/2010/01/ap_afghanistan_cia_attack_010510/


A second former U.S. intelligence official identified the dead as four CIA officers and three contracted security guards with the American spy agency and a Jordanian intelligence officer, Ali bin Zaid. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the incident.

SNIP

Al-Balawi was arrested more than a year ago by Jordanian intelligence, NBC News reported. He was invited to Camp Chapman because he was offering urgent information to track down Ayman al-Zawahri, bin Laden’s right-hand man


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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 02:46 PM
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12. Well, thank gawd these mercernaries are indispensable to our ongoing
mission to find and destroy new life forms, to boldly go where all dead empires have gone before....
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 03:52 PM
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27. Perimeter guard in an FOB? I don't buy it, maybe in Kabul, not in the field.
Possible guard for the station chief?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 02:46 AM
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35. Someone had to open the front gate to let this guy in. That would be Xe's job.
If not the Xe guards, who else would do the this? Afghans? I don't think they would use local guards for that. And, if the Xe guys were CIA bodyguards, don't bodyguards normally do a second quick check of someone at the door to a briefing room containing visiting VIPs? I know the bomber was a trusted outsider, but security seems surprisingly lax.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 02:46 PM
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13. No mercy for a mercenary
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 02:46 PM
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15. I agree.
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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 02:46 PM
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16. Hey, not fair!
I'll be glad to feel mercy, just as soon as Blackwater signs my purchase order for mercy services, and provides credit references, of course.

In the meantime, do we the taxpayers get a refund for failed hired killer services?
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 02:46 PM
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18. So you know nothing about the guy yet you are willing to make that claim based on an occupation
nice
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 02:46 PM
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19. I am willing to make claims based on occupation when that occupation is hired killer for money.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 02:46 PM
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20. Damn, I can't imagine how you feel about our soldiers
I wont ask.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 02:46 PM
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21. You do know the difference between a mercenary and a soldier, don't you?
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:16 AM
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36. The details on the contract. (n/t)
:evilgrin:
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 02:51 PM
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23. I support our soldiers I detest mercenaries. Clear enough?
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 03:46 PM
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26. Okay but that's too easy
Edited on Wed Jan-06-10 03:48 PM by Generator
Look I just read the ABC piece on it. The other blackwater guy killed is from my town, Portland. It caught my attention because it was on KGW local news this morning. He left a wife and two daughters. Theoretically I could know someone that knows them.

"Paresi and Wise were both former elite military commandos, and were killed when a Jordanian double agent detonated a suicide bomb at a meeting inside the CIA base near the Pakistan border. Wise was a 35-year-old former Navy SEAL from Virginia Beach, Va. A statement from the family of the 46-year-old Dane Paresi described him as having recently retired from 27 years in the Army, many in Special Operations. He was from Portland, Ore. "


So he was in the military for 27 years and that's a-okay. But he died a mercenary and now you hate him? I need to point out that the majority of the mercenaries are former soldiers-okay to worship them but despise them when they actually want to get paid some real money to kill people and die for it?

Look, we need to stop lying to ourselves in this country.

The military AND the contractors and THE CIA and all the innocents are fighting and dying for us.

I don't support ANY of them dying or killing. I want it to end. That includes our precious soldiers. No more death and killing. It's meaningless. WHAT ARE WE GAINING? But as long as we keep worshiping the military and making these absurd distinctions nothing will ever change. Everyone deserves to live. Whether they are some innocent poor guy in Afghanistan, a blackwater employee OR the precious military that we worship. They are all dying for nothing.

Until America can say that-they all we keep dying for nothing.
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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 03:54 PM
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28. it's very cut-and-dried for me
Two hired killers failed in their last paid gig. I'm sure there's great human suffering in Portland and wherever else their families reside, just like there's great anguish following every wedding party we exterminate and every school kid in Afghanistan we execute. But sympathy wasn't written into the mercs' contracts, and therefore does not qualify as a deliverable. Live by the paid killer contract, die by the paid killer contract.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 03:58 PM
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30. But why do you excuse the soldiers?
They never kill anybody? Because they make less money? What is this absurdity? The Contractors are working for us. For you and me. They are contractors of the US GOVERNMENT. Just like the soldiers.
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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 04:12 PM
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31. let's split this out a little
There are these mercs, there were also CIA agents killed, and of course, there are lots and lots of soldiers in Afghanistan right now. To the best of my knowledge, no soldiers were killed in this incident.

Still, I owe you an answer. I don't feel much of any sympathy for the CIA guys either. They have apparently been living outside the law for a long time now, and I can't bring myself to feel much pity.

As for the soldiers, that's a little different for me. Many of them are probably like I was when I enlisted, which is to say, interested in college money, getting away from home, that sort of thing. They make next to nothing salary-wise, and I think that most joined with the best of intentions. I'm also aware that, despite protestations to the contrary in these pages once in awhile, soldiers cannot just disobey what they consider to be an unlawful order, at least not without risking their own lives and livelihood. So I consider rank and file soldiers in a little different light than I do mercenaries or CIA spooks. I don't worship the military, however. I was never into contests about who "supported the troops" and who didn't--that kind of thinking is firmly in the realm of GOP chickenhawks. They're a population just like any other, with heroes, with scumbags. But on the whole, I'm much more supportive of soldiers than I am of these other groups.

Thanks.
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ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 06:41 PM
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34. there is nothing honorable or noble about an occupying army
especially when it was all done on false pretenses (911, inside job).

If the soldiers want to defend America, the good ole continental USA is the only place to be. Anywhere else and you are living a lie coming from Pentagon psy ops. The Pentagon can not even defend itself from a direct attack, that's a pretty lousy track record so far.

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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 02:38 PM
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38. Wrong. The military AND the contractors and THE CIA and all the innocents are fighting and dying for
MONEY and MONEYED INTERESTS. The Military Industrial Complex exists
to line the pockets of the Moneyed few.
Face those who die in Iraq die for NO NOBEL cause.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 02:46 PM
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22. Well, if that occupation entails being a blood-soaked hired killer...
sure!
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 03:26 PM
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25. Mercenaries play war as a game.
Golden rule: You play and you pay.
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 02:46 PM
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14. Dump Blackwater
...it's amazing isn't it, that we the taxpayers continue to fund Blackwater and their skeezy operations.

If only we had a vote!

Maybe we need nationwide ballot measures...we get to be the ones to vote on budgets and funding...and hiring!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 02:46 PM
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17. I thought the CIA's fearless leader, Leon Panetta was going to END all Xe contracts?
I'm not anti-senior citizen advancement - However, I don't believe a man of 70 y.o. (Panetta) can keep his hand on the pulse of an dynamic and complex organization like the CIA.

The whole situation is disturbing ... especially the continuing MEME of nobody of any "rank" taking responsibility by resigning. :thumbsdown:
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 03:55 PM
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29. Dream on, everything is a precious myth in this country
YEAH, we love our soldiers. We treat them so well. No we do not. So, it makes more sense that some then work for Blackwater since the pay is 5 times as much. And then we hate them.

America doesn't have enough bodies to fill the places to keep our empire going. That's why we MUST use contractors. Because the powers that be know this charade would all come to an end in there was a draft.

Not my son our daughter! Yours, okay. He's a hero. Such as sad loss.

Of course maybe with a few successful plane take-downs they could convince America's children to sign up with a draft. The future is grim for a propagandized nation.

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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 03:09 PM
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24. ABC News: Mystery Surrounds Contractors' Role at CIA Base
Two of the seven CIA personnel killed in last week's suicide bombing in Afghanistan worked as contractors for the company formerly known as Blackwater, but what role Dane Paresi and Jeremy Wise played at the CIA's forward base in Khost remains unknown. The base collected intelligence used in the CIA's drone attacks across the border in Pakistan, but CIA director Leon Panetta has said that the former Blackwater, now known as Xe Services, is no longer involved in the drone program.

Spokesman for both the CIA and Xe/Blackwater declined to comment whether Paresi and Wise were employed through Xe, but two private intelligence sources and one current government official familiar with CIA operations at the Afghanistan base confirmed to ABCNEWS.com that the two were there as Xe employees. A source familiar with Xe's contracts said that their role was not to provide security for the base, but provided no further details.

Paresi and Wise were both former elite military commandos, and were killed when a Jordanian double agent detonated a suicide bomb at a meeting inside the CIA base near the Pakistan border. Wise was a 35-year-old former Navy SEAL from Virginia Beach, Va. A statement from the family of the 46-year-old Dane Paresi described him as having recently retired from 27 years in the Army, many in Special Operations. He was from Portland, Ore.

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In response to an ABC News report last month that the CIA had expanded the role of contractors to operation positions, CIA spokesman George Little said, "CIA does not use Blackwater to perform our core missions of collecting intelligence, performing analysis or conducting covert operations," said Little.

A U.S. government official told ABC News the private contractors "don't kick down doors" but only fulfill a "security role" on certain CIA missions.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/mystery-surrounds-contractors-role-cia-base/story?id=9486136
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 04:30 PM
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32. Reap what you sow.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 05:11 PM
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33. Newsweek report
Two of the seven Americans killed in the Dec. 30 suicide bombing of a CIA outpost in Khost, Afghanistan, were employees of Xe, the current incarnation of the controversial paramilitary contractor formerly known as Blackwater, according to people familiar with the issue, who asked for anonymity when discussing sensitive information. One source said that the Xe employees had been involved directly in CIA intelligence operations, rather than merely serving as security guards at the remote CIA facility.

An Associated Press story published Wednesday cited an obituary released Wednesday as the original source for information indicating that bombing victim Jeremy Wise, a 35-year-old a former Navy SEAL from Virginia Beach, Va., had been working at the outpost, known as Forward Operating Base Chapman, for the company now known as Xe. The wire service reported that MindyLou Paresi of Dupont, Wash., had told The News Tribune of Tacoma, Wash., that her husband, 46-year-old Dane Clark Paresi, was also a Xe contractor who was killed in the attack.

Two people familiar with details of the incident confirmed the identities of Wise and Paresi to NEWSWEEK and that they were working for Xe, evidently as contractors to the CIA, at the time of their deaths. While Xe has principally been known for providing highly trained physical-security officers to U.S. agencies like the State Department and CIA, according to one of the people familiar with the late Xe employees' activities, their role in CIA activities at the Chapman base may have involved them directly in agency counterterrorism operations, rather than merely providing security to the base.

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...However the dead are now understood to include the two Xe employees. The involvement in the incident of personnel from Xe, which changed its name from Blackwater after that corporate identity became tarnished in the wake of a series of deadly incidents in Iraq, is almost certain to raise new questions about the extent to which U.S. government agencies rely upon outside contractors for ultra-sensitive security and intelligence operations. Intelligence sources have said that Blackwater personnel, if not the company itself, were also involved in discussions that CIA officials had during the Bush administration about establishing some kind of Israeli-style hit squads to hunt down and kill Al Qaeda leaders.

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/declassified/archive/2010/01/06/two-americans-killed-in-attack-on-cia-base-worked-for-xe-formerly-blackwater.aspx
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 09:44 AM
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37. Is this one of the "civilian" casualties they told us about?
One of our death operatives?
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