Republicans plan all-out fight to win California for Bush

[question everything]

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Now, Republicans are looking to Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger for the ultimate in political heroics: Deliver California for President Bush in November.

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The idea that the ouster of perhaps the most unpopular politician in California by one of Hollywood's biggest celebrities signifies a partisan realignment is a view not widely held in California.

"Arnold Schwarzenegger's victory was a personal victory, just like Gray Davis' defeat was a personal defeat, not a partisan one," said Sherry Bebitch Jeffe, a political scientist at the University of Southern California.

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In addition, the eruption of the same-sex marriage battle in California came at a particularly awkward time, given the well-known differences between Bush and Schwarzenegger on social issues.

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According to a Field Poll late last month, 43 percent of California voters think Bush is doing a good job – the lowest point of his presidency.

The poll also showed Bush losing California to the all-but-official Democratic nominee, Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, 53 percent to 41 percent.

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"Bush was not president in 2000," said veteran Republican strategist Ken Khachigian. "He was viewed as being untested. And Bill Clinton was extremely popular out here and therefore it rubbed off on Gore. It's wholly different now."

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Find this article at:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040314/news_1n14calif.html

[bemildred]

1. Bring it on! nt

[coloradodem2005]

2. Bush won't win California.

We need to make sure that he does not win California.

[calimary]

28. I'm in. THIS Californian will vote for bush when pigs, elephants, rhinos,

hippos, giraffes, lions, tigers, and the whole rest of the ground-rooted quadruped collection in the L.A. Zoo can fly. Shirley Jaffe's correct. It was Arnold's star-power and Davis's personal ick that produced the recall results. It also proves that ONLY a moderate republi-CON can make any headway in California. They've run knuckle-dragger after knuckle-dragger and the strident conservative doesn't win. California is NOT a strident conservative state, overall. There are some pockets of dimwittedness, but overall, it's pretty moderate, with just as many pockets of progressive/liberal leanings, if not more, than those of conservatives.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

3. Awesome!

Let them waste the resources on a failed strategy! They have some seriously flawed thinking when ONE PERSON wins a circus election and they think they have a serious shot at it.

[bleedingheart]

4. I agree, let them waste their money

Old Ahnold isn't the kind of GOPer that Bush is.....they are mistaking Ahnold's win as some sort of sign...

[onehandle]

14. California will be Bush's Russian Front.

Onward to glorious victory, you deluded morons.

Spend, Spend, Spend. Until you're broke.

[K8-EEE]

46. Yeah, This L.A. Girl Says: SPEND LOTS OF MONEY HERE!

CUZ YOU CAN'T WIN!

[hang a left]

5. "It's wholly different now."

You better believe it is. Scumbush has been tested and he is a dud. If he wins California, it will be because it is manipulated and stolen after the press tells us what "Californians think or feel". You know statements like "the people of California have......bla bla bla" There will also need to be an "event" in California to manipulate it's population into believing this is actually true and provide the atmosphere that which they can steal the election within it.

[otohara]

6. Fight, Fight

Bring em on...Bush will do nothing for CA - why would they vote for him?

[keopeli]

7. There is not a snowball's chance in hell Bush* will win CA...

But, I would encourage him to spend all or most of his resources on the very expensive advertising that CA offers. I'd also say sooner than later, because if they attack in CA this early, they may just run out of $$$.

Keo

PS - In case anyone forgot, Bush* hates CA. He gave her no assistance when Enron robbed her blind. He was Johnny Come Lately to the wildfire tragedies last year. Californians can only embrace socially moderate Repubs...period. Period. :)

[diplomats]

8. This sounds Rovian

He did this in 2000. He had Bush campaign there toward the end in an effort to make the media and public think the election was sewn up. It was all psyops. I suspect that's what this is. BTW, there is no chance Bush will win Calif.

[Jaybird]

15. i remember 2000...

bush was campaigning there in october 2000, and gave a short interview to ashley banfield in which i remember quite clearly shrub saying..."i'm gonna win california"...enough said

[jamesinca]

17. Let us not forget the Hetch-Hetchy

He is raising the price to $8 million for the cost to what city? San Francisco. So lets see, San Francisco is getting personally attacked by Bush, I don't think that will help win to many votes there.

[Warren Stuart]

9. I don't believe it for a second

They are saying that just to get the Democrats to spend more in CA, they are cash rich and message poor, sure they can spend a whole lot in one of the most expensive media markets, but it won't change a thing on the ground.

Enron tried to cripple CA financially, this is something people don't forget or forgive easily. As long as the Republicans keep stonwalling on the makup of the Energy Commisssion than the Dems have an issue to run on.

The Republicans are not stupid, they have to keep it respectable, they can't openly give up on CA, they have lots of cash, they can afford to bluff.

But even they have to know that they have no chance of winning.

[saskatoon]

36. You mentioned Enron---where is Kenny Boy?

Havent heard his name mentioned in a long time. Anybody heard anything?

[TroglodyteScholar]

50. Kenny boy...

Last I heard him mentioned was on NPR when Jeff Skilling was taken in...they pointed out that Skilling is the last link before Lay could be taken down.

I wonder if the American public will be pissed off when Bush Baby pardons all those assholes on his way out the White House door.

[mike_c]

10. when pigs fly....

eom

[CerealMurderer]

11. What if SF did not vote in the election? Would Bush win then?

What if a militant freedom fighter sneaks in a container nuke and takes out SF? WOuld that seal the election or open it up?

[Beam Me Up]

21. I think you're almost as paranoid as I am

The Criminal Class is Out of the Closet with *Bush; there isn't anything they WON'T do to maintain their hegemony. We are SO fucked!

[jamesinca]

48. They would have to take out 20 of the 53 counties.

That is the CA split. If you go to http://vote2004.ss.ca.gov they have the election returns by county and you can look back at the last couple of presidential races. Republicans tend to hold the sparsely populated agriculture areas of the state. The Dem's hold the densely populated SF and LA areas. It is nice to go back and look to see how Boxer, who is up for re-election, did last time.

[proud patriot]

12. Not if I can help it

:grr:

[Sperk]

13. continuing cover story for when they steal California.

Kerry better send a team to CA not just FL. They have to steal California, it's the only way Idiot Boy can win- they know they're gonna lose the states that were close last time. Get CA's 54 votes is a lot easier than trying to steal 4 or 5 states.

[Ridley Park 704]

16. this Ken Khachigian is deluded... (my George Carlin remark too)

"Bush was not president in 2000, he was untested." So that's why he's going to win over Californians now, when they know all about his sinister plans even more than in 2000?

Repugnant Governors in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Penna. couldn't even deliver their states when the press jacked up Bush worship in 2000.

Come on California, you will decide who is the next president.

I'll bet even George Carlin votes this time, because he said in his book he doesn't give a shit about ever voting, because everything was bought and paid for long ago. Don't let them fool you george.

[leesa]

18. They won't win California, but they may well steal it. They stole it for

Arnold. They stole billions from the treasury. The GOP is the most unethical group of monsters ever...they will not hesitate to steal it because that is how they operate.

[SoCalDem]

19. DRE voting is all they need.. and they have it here

:(..

The "CA is in play" mantra, and the visits and canned photo-ops will be the "cover story" when * squeeks out a teensy "victory" here..

That's the plan..

If hackers are to decide the election, I can only hope that ours are better than theirs :scared: :P

[oneighty]

20. Yes!

"If hackers are to decide the election, I can only hope that ours are better than theirs."

Somehow I think the party of the working man holds the edge in the hacking field. BBV (voting) advocates might not get what they wish for.

180

[jeanmarc]

22. That's ROIDRAGEOUS!

Ahnuld, you cannot deliver Califawnia.

[rocktivity]

23. I am reminded of the Mamas And Papas song

California Dreaming.

And by the way,


:headbang:
rocknation

[PROGRESSIVE1]

24. Hey "Naziboy", where's the 9 BILLION YOU RETHUGS STOLE???

Great picture of Gropenfurher, he looks like the swine that is he.

:kick:

Bush will NOT win Cali!!!

[mitchtv]

25. Some thoughts

1) Maria S. is supporting Kerry, so I wonder how much Groper will campaign for *.
2) California has a habit of sucking up your million$ and leaving you with zip.
3) taking California for granted would be a mistake.
4) stealing CA would be tough with a D Secty of State.

[question everything]

38. Does she, really? n/t

[GaryL]

26. BWAH HA HA!

This is just more GOP propaganda. They're not going to sink 5 cents into the Cal race but they would love for the dems to do so. I laugh my ass off evey time I hear this crap. :7

[wryter2000]

27. No effing way

My state isn't going to BushCo. What planet do these morons live on?

[renegade000]

35. do you really

want an answer? ;)

[question everything]

39. Did you mean "morans" ;-)? n/t

[Fight_n_back]

29. Bush doesn't even draw crowds in Orange County

and he can't appear with Arnold because he is dwarfed by the 'roidheads "charisma".

He can't win here because of his Enronitude.

[MidwestMomma]

30. I pity the Califorinians

How many Bush ads will they be bombarded with? Poor souls. I bet everytime they turn on the TV there will the McChimpster..."I approved this ad" "Vote for me, or my mamma will cry". Not to mention the billboards and radio spots.

That's one good thing about living in Kansas, nobody every spends much money here.

Oh crap, I just remembered, I live in the Kansas City MISSOURI media market. How badly do they need Missouri? I'll probably get bombarded too! :puke:

[calimary]

31. Okay, they wanna claim California's "in play?" BRING 'EM ON.

We Dems should start passing the word along that TEXAS IS IN PLAY.

Check this link.
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/state/8184910.htm

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

32. Didn't Bush* (or his minions) get pissed at Davis after 9-11?

The governor immediately stationed National Guard troops around the Golden Gate Bridge. The Bushies got really upset. Their logic was that if the terrorists didn't think they could blow the Golden Gate up, they would go after some other target. Then the FBI wouldn't be able to catch the terrorists when they would try to bomb it.

Seriously.

[cyr330]

33. No Way

What those stupid Republicans don't realize is that as bad as Schwarzenegger is, he's pro-choice, moderate on gay issues, moderate on environmental issues, and he makes an attempt to at least appear bi-partisan. I'm no fan of Arnold's, but he doesn't fit the Republican mold, and Californians aren't going to be fooled by swelling, patriotic music and the images of a bunch of flags on some insipid Republican TV ad. Thank God I live in the Bay Area, where everyone despises Bush. . . .

[Katha]

34. Excellent point

and that's a good reminder. I can't stand Ahnold, and I'm embarrassed that he's our State's governor, but he definitely doesn't follow the hard-core party line.

California will go to Bush when pigs fly. Simple as that.

[snippy]

40. Good post. I think democrats should find a way to exploit Arnold

to create dissension within the republican base. Democrats should criticize Bush by saying that he should stop being a divider and be more like Arnold who is a uniter. They should say something like Arnold is socially moderate and fiscally sane who reaches out to everyone whereas Bush panders to the most hate-filled social conservatives and is fiscally insane.

[Malva Zebrina]

37. Kerry has a better chance of winning Texas than Bush has of winning

California. Ugh--if the asshole wins California on his lies, I will never ever visit that state again even though my son lives there.

[snippy]

41. I agree.

[Piperay]

42. Yippee, go ahead waste time and money here and

get the shit kicked out of you because CA is Democratic and staying that way. Repukes are stupid to think that they have a chance just because Davis got kicked out which was fluke, people hated Davis I even hated him (but I still voted against the recall).

[supernova]

44. Yes, the GOP can waste LOTS of time and $$$

in California. Let them spend down that warchest in a search for futility! :D

This just gets better and better!

[nolabels]

45. Besides the Californian economy can use the money

Kenny Boy and the other energy bandits embedded with * should have been coughing up some of that money they stole in the first place (that 9 billion would of been a start), yet all us Californians got was more smoke from the Secret Dick and some used-up steroid abuser.

[ParanoidPat]

43. CALIFORNIANS plan all-out fight to kick Bush* butt back home!

......Start with who voted for him last time.....

Gore, Al (D) # of votes received 5,861,203 Percent of electorate 53.45%

Bush, George W. (R) # of votes received 4,567,429 Percent of electorate 41.65%

A difference of 1,293,774 votes and a difference of 11.8% of the votes cast.

.....Add to that the unemployment situation as nicely summed up by Representative Tom Lantos in this....

Press Release

Lantos Decries Continued Job Loss in California,
Dismal Economic Conditions Across the Country

March 10, 2004

Washington, DC - Congressman Tom Lantos (D-San Mateo, San Francisco) today noted with dismay the news that in January more than 1 million Californians were out of work, and he called on the Bush Administration to do more to improve economic conditions nationwide.

"The Bush Administration's so-called ‘jobless recovery' is meaningless to millions of unemployed people in this country, more than a million of them in our state," Lantos said. "Meanwhile, proposed new tax cuts for the least needy among us would saddle our children and grandchildren with the burden of a burgeoning national debt. In all my experience as an economist and as a member of Congress, I have never witnessed such utter disregard for this country's fiscal reality." The Department of Labor announced today that 1,077,214 Californians were without jobs in January, up from 793,953 unemployed in January 2001. In late February, the Los Angeles Times reported that California's recovery from the 2001 recession "is still sluggish, with the state lagging behind the nation on a variety of fronts," including higher unemployment.

Noting that Treasury Secretary John Snow said recently that the economy's failure to create new jobs was ‘a mystery,' Lantos said, "What's truly mystifying is how the Administration and the Republican Congressional leadership can continue to turn their backs as jobs in this country are shipped overseas, and special deals are cut for the large corporations responsible for outsourcing these jobs. We have to change the course of economic policy in this country by putting socially responsible leadership in charge."

.....And the fact it's only bound to get worse....

San Jose BizJournals.com

Study: California job loss could accelerate swiftly

February 26, 2004

Nearly 40 percent of companies in California are planning to move jobs out of state according to a new study paid for by the California Business Roundtable, a pro-business lobby in Sacramento.

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Bain's analysis of California's employment landscape revealed that 27 percent of California jobs are in so-called "mobile sectors," including manufacturing, software programming and insurance underwriting. Companies in mobile sectors can move operations from California to other locations. Consequently, these 4 million "mobile" jobs are those in the most danger of being relocated outside California, the report says.

The survey says 50 percent of the companies interviewed have explicit policies to halt employment growth in the state. These companies plan to simply do their expanding -- new factories, new design centers -- elsewhere, it says. Nearly 40 percent of the companies (55 percent of companies in mobile sectors) plan to relocate jobs from California, the report claims.

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.....And don't even get me started on the the declining forclouseure rate in 2000 Vs. the increases happening now.....

California Foreclosures

by Real Estate Analyst John Karevoll

January, 2000

La Jolla, CA. - Foreclosure activity in California continued to decline last year, the result of a robust economy and rising home values, a real estate information service reported.

Lending institutions started foreclosure proceedings on 101,053 homeowners statewide during 1999. That was down 17.7 percent from 122,797 for the prior year, according to DataQuick.

Last year's number was well below the 1996 peak of 162,597, and was the lowest since 100,573 in 1992. The decline in foreclosure activity was strongest in Southern California, while it was weakest in the Central Valley

<More>

15,814 homeowners defaulted during third quarter, up 3.1% from second quarter

Monday, November 17, 2003

Inman News - Foreclosure activity in California inched higher during the third quarter, despite strong home sales and robust appreciation rates, according to DataQuick Information Systems.

Lending institutions started foreclosure proceedings on 15,814 homeowners during the July-to-September period. That was up 3.1 percent from 15,333 for the prior three months and down 12 percent from 17,974 for last year's third quarter, DataQuick reported.

And Education! According to this document from www.scf.usc.edu , California has suffered a 3.6 billion dollar, 1.7% of the general fund decline in educational spending for our future.....

During the 2001-02 school year, approximately $39.6 billion from the General Fund was spent on education, but for 2003-04, projections indicate that funds will decline to $36 billion. In addition, from 2001-02 to 2003-04, the General Fund, which provides a majority of the revenue for education through personal income tax, sales tax, and corporation tax, decreased by 7%. For 2000-01, 33.8% of the General Fund, was spent on K-12 education, where as for 2003-04, only 32.1% was allocated.

....We notice this stuff! It impacts our lives every day and no amount of spin will make it go away. Bush* will NEVER take California! :evilgrin:

[Zhade]

47. That traitor will carry this state over my dead body.

Now, uh, everyone fight really hard so I don't wind up dead! :D

[ParanoidPat]

51. I've got your back!

LOL! :evilgrin:

[Zhade]

53. Thanks! Your name indicates a helpful trait in this situation!

:D

[AlFrankenFan]

49. He wins CA Over My Dead Body

Note: Ashcroft, that is not a suggestion. :P

I'm doing almost everything I can to get out the Anti-Bush message out.

[Jack Rabbit]

52. Walden O'Dell couldn't deliver California to Bush in November

Neither can Arnold.

[Cronus Protagonist]

54. Arnold will work for Bush

I'd like to think that Arnold wouldn't do this, but he probably will...

If Arnold goes on TV and says he needs Bush to be the President to help solve the problems in Caleefornia and the nation... He'll burnish Bush's image with his own. Guiliani is already stomping for Bush too, bleating the 9/11 mantra.

CA might actaully be in play for a while - you cannot underestimate these people.

The question is, "Does Arnold have coattails?" Or will this blowback and just tarnish Arnold further by bringing out all the things he's done that Bush is supposedly against (steroid use, wanton public sex, date rape, inappropriate touching, pot smoking, etc.)?

Maybe Arnold will tar Bush in the eyes of his base instead of help him with swing voters. Who knows?

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