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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 03:51 PM
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Federal Reserve Seeks to Protect U.S. Bailout Secrets
Source: Bloomberg

Jan. 11 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Reserve asked a U.S. appeals court to block a ruling that for the first time would force the central bank to reveal secret identities of financial firms that might have collapsed without the largest government bailout in U.S. history.

The U.S. Court of Appeals in Manhattan will decide whether the Fed must release records of the unprecedented $2 trillion U.S. loan program launched after the 2008 collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. In August, a federal judge ordered that the information be released, responding to a request by Bloomberg LP, the parent of Bloomberg News.

“This case is about the identity of the borrower,” said Matthew Collette, a lawyer for the government, in oral arguments today. “This is the equivalent of saying ‘I want all the loan applications that were submitted.’”

Bloomberg argues that the public has the right to know basic information about the “unprecedented and highly controversial use” of public money. Banks and the Fed warn that bailed-out lenders may be hurt if the documents are made public, causing a run or a sell-off by investors. Disclosure may hamstring the Fed’s ability to deal with another crisis, they also argued. The lower court agreed with Bloomberg.

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Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=aEfuO342uoj8
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 03:53 PM
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1. k/r
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 03:54 PM
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2. My money, my right. Let's see who the welfare kings are!
I paid for it, now I want to see it. I was against it from the beginning, so I have even more claim to see it.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:11 PM
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31. We the people want to see it
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 07:04 AM
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37. I second that.... It is something that the Federal govt. wants to audit those
who don't purchase enough health insurance, but to ask what the Federal govt. did with our tax dollars, is a secret? Something wrong-bigtime....
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 03:56 PM
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3. Interesting strategy
I think I'll try it next time I apply for a loan, which will hopefully be never: Just lend me the money, because it would pose an unacceptable danger to what I intend to use it for if I am forced to disclose too much information to you. In other words, just keep writing checks and never you mind what it's for. Why should the public know what public money was used for? Buncha nosy parker busybodies.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:22 PM
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41. Yes, let's try it next time, and see what happens.
:thumbsup:
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 03:56 PM
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4. Support HR 1207 and Alan Grayson
Edited on Mon Jan-11-10 03:57 PM by FLAprogressive
www.unmaskthefed.com
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 03:56 PM
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5. Abolish the "Federal" Reserve
And put the fucking pieces of shit in charge of it on trial for treason. Including Bernanke, Timmy the Elf, Greenspan, etc.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 06:47 PM
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15. Exactly and off with their heads!
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 07:45 PM
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17. Agreed. nt
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:04 PM
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20. Yes to that! n/t
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:14 PM
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32. I'm with you on that one!
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 04:01 PM
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6. Given that "we" are the lender, "we" should know who is submitting loan applications
Yes?

I mean we know defense contract spending, why not these trillions as well?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 04:04 PM
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7. Awww "...bailed-out lenders may be hurt..." Awww. nt
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 04:15 PM
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8. F the FED
The have F-d us.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 04:26 PM
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9. that info will never see the light of day.
good luck to that.

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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:31 PM
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27. +1
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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 05:06 PM
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10. K&R
nt
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 05:20 PM
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11. Um, the lender always knows the identity of the loan applicants.
In this case, the lender is the American taxpayer.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 05:50 PM
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12. Gosh, shouldn't we let the Free Market determine whether or not these banks will be hurt?
Those who truly believe in the function of a free market should welcome a more open banking system.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 06:10 PM
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13. Hope Bloomberg has the stomach to deal with the Rothchilds of the world.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 06:13 PM
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14. Just doing God's work.
Especially the heavenly bonus-y parts.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 07:59 PM
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18. lol
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:48 PM
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22. Exactly! The public never finding out who ripped them off is all a part of "God's Plan."
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:15 PM
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25. And of course that is the same God they invoke whenever they start citing how
Edited on Mon Jan-11-10 10:15 PM by truedelphi
The public simply cannot be allowed to walk down the path of unbridled Socialism via Government paid for Health Plans!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 06:56 PM
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16. FED: Concern for the consumer . . . !!! Protecting Elitism.....!!
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:03 PM
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19. Bullshit. We deserve to know!
It was taxpayers money that covered their asses and then some!!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:21 PM
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21. They wanted us to take a risk. They can now take a risk that there might be market
risk. However, knowing how much control they have and how they manipulate, they should probably be able to manipulate the risk. After all, manipulation is their forte.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:02 PM
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23. Well that's just great
Fucking robbers.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:38 PM
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24. freaks will prolly rely on Bush v Gore
in that Bush would be injured if all the votes were counted.

These things (they are not people) make me :puke:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:16 PM
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26. Protect the rich, tax the poor
What a crappy system we live under!
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:45 PM
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28. Wait til they claim executive priviledge
and therefore it can't be released
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:47 PM
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29. Kickety kick and rec.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:03 PM
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30. Sallie Mae calls people I haven't talked to in 25 years to try to get my banking information
We are the lenders to these dysfunctional, predatory corporations; we are therefore entitled to know how much they stole borrowed from us.
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Johnny ramone Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 03:23 AM
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35. I was going to say something similar...
but your prose is obviously better than mine.:)
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:27 PM
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33. If the disclosure crashes the banks, don't we then lose any unpaid loans?
How much of that 2 trillion is at risk, if we get their names?
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Ticonderoga Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:48 AM
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40. doesn't really matter
they never had any intention of returning the funds anyways because the funds never really exicted except on "bad paper". We are totally screwed.
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:00 AM
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34. We the People of the United States...
Cannot make informed decisions unless we are kept informed.

If I'm given no choice but to make an uninformed decision, the decision is going to be to vote against anything that keeps me uninformed.

The economic aristocracy calls the shots now. But we are many, they are few.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 03:39 AM
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36. Deleted message
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DisgustedInMN Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 07:47 AM
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38. I should be surprised ..
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 07:47 AM by DisgustedInMN
... by this, why? The Corporate States of America owes us no explanations. STFU and pay, then die. :sarcasm:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:17 AM
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39. Make the shit public, see how long they last post publication.
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