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wpsedgwick Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:38 AM
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Toyota unveils baby Prius at Detroit Auto Show
Source: Green Technology Daily

Already a leader of compact efficiency, the Prius may get a little brother after the unveiling of the FT-CH hybrid concept car Monday at the North American International Auto Show.

The new concept is 22 inches shorter than the Prius and an inch narrower, promising to offer even better fuel efficiency than its larger sibling.

The model was designed to target a younger, less affluent buyer than the Prius.

Read more: http://www.greentechnologydaily.com/auto/594-toyota-unveils-baby-prius-at-detroit-auto-show
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:17 AM
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1. I wonder what the price range is going to be for those?
Because I definitely want one!

Rp
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wpsedgwick Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:24 AM
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2. No price speculation public yet...
But analysts are saying that it could be in $14K-$16K range. Possibly less.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:34 AM
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4. We would buy one for that price, especially since it might be even more fuel efficient
"...promising to offer even better fuel efficiency than its larger sibling"

Our Corolla has over 140,000 miles and we are thinking about replacing it. The new Prius would be great for my husband to commute to work :)
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 01:28 AM
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36. Don't write that Corolla off yet!
Mine has just a few miles shy of 250,000 on the odometer and it's still rolling!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:42 PM
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45. The Corolla is the best selling car in the world. More than 32 million sold.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:30 AM
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3. Right now it is a concept car.
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 10:30 AM by MiniMe
It isn't in production yet, so you will have a long wait for it.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:46 AM
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12. Well the good thing for me is it will take me some time to save for it. :)
So this might work hand in hand. :)

Rp
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:47 AM
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5. And yet, Ford won both car and truck of the year
at the same show. I guess American auto makers are doing something right.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:04 AM
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6. Wow, I didn't think it was possible to be uglier than the regular Prius.
I was wrong.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:10 AM
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7. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And besides, we need to get over
the idea that cars need to be "attractive" by some artificial criteria. Hybrids are a beautiful concept. That they look a certain way because of aerodynamics is just engineering.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:14 PM
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35. "Aerodynamic" doesn't necessarily mean "butt ugly"
The FT-CH is a sorry looking machine--headlights right under the windshield? My first thought is to put the headlights in the front bumper.
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jakefrep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:11 AM
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8. I think the people who designed the Pontiac Aztek are working for Toyota now
Judging from the profound ugliness of virtually all of Toyota's current products.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 07:34 PM
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29. My Camry is far
from ugly.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:02 PM
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34. Good one.
:toast:
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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:45 AM
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38. I saw an Aztek this morning.
I thought, "gee, someone bought one."
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:27 AM
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9. It will probably change before production
Besides, a car is just a box to climb into to get from one place to another, preferably with no drama, absolute reliability, and minimum cost.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:33 AM
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10. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:48 AM
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13. I actually like how it looks
And I am a fan of the whole 8 bit retro thing too so if they incorporate that in a really cool way I am totally on board.

Rp
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 03:46 PM
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25. I think it's gorgeous.
Very Volkswagen-ish. I love it.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 06:25 PM
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27. It's a machine, designed to do work efficiently.
Attaching importance to a machine's appearance is stupid.
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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:48 AM
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39. "Attaching importance to a machine's appearance is stupid."
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 10:01 AM by mahatmakanejeeves
Oh, dear. I couldn't disagree more.

Shout out to Raymond Loewy





and Henry Dreyfuss.

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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:03 PM
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44. I like the look and I like the look of my Prius, thank you.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:34 AM
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11. Ugly????....
You are absolutely right! I'm soooo ashamed of my ugly Prius when I pull up to the gas pumps, fill up, and leave, while those beautiful Suburban Assault Vehicles continue filling. I'm sooo ashamed that I'm able to load a small freezer into the hatchback of my Prius, instead of the 3 kids going to soccer practice loaded into mom's bus.

:sarcasm:

You people who talk about ugly or beautiful amaze me. Those engineers tuned the shit out of the Prius for max performance and min drag. You got something against going with the flow? Do you really want to bring back these..
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://moknowsphotos.com/Brightwork/&usg=__aBTah2e42eZDZ1X-Lrn6rH3O8BQ=&h=450&w=310&sz=18&hl=en&start=6&um=1&tbnid=yNCnazbYlIvM6M:&tbnh=127&tbnw=87&prev=/images%3Fq%3D1950%2527s%2Bcars%2Bfins%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://www.worldofstock.com/closeups/TRC2676.php&usg=__laf1xGHSLvmE4x-EL9vcvdNxTr0=&h=335&w=500&sz=47&hl=en&start=11&um=1&tbnid=BseqYqou2Z7eBM:&tbnh=87&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3D1950%2527s%2Bcars%2Bbumpers%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26um%3D1
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:51 AM
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14. This you?

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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:24 PM
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16. Older... and smugger... nt
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:03 PM
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19. Another stupid South Park episode...
I honestly thought this was one of the stupidest episodes in a long string of stupid episodes.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:06 PM
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21. Like the looks of this "car"...
That is a matter of opinion.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 03:17 PM
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24. I am unclear.
What the heck are you talking about?

Your subject line seemed to ask about whether I liked a car, and your message was "that is a matter of opinion"

Could you maybe elaborate?



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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 07:17 PM
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28. This you?
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:38 AM
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40. Way more meat on my bones and way darker skin. nt
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 11:38 AM by WriteDown
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brendan120678 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 04:28 PM
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26. Yes! Bring those back!!
My grandfather had a mint condition 1958 Chevy Bel Air Impala, painted red & white, that was the most beautiful car I've ever seen. Sadly, when he died there was so much fighting between my mother's siblings over who should get the car, that my grandmother went and sold it to a private collector.

Damn, I would have loved that car.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:54 AM
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15. I like the design... (nt)
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:41 PM
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17. Cute car
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:00 PM
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18. Nice... this car will sell...
Too bad US carmakers are incapable of developing cars like this.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:07 PM
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22. Unlikely if we look at the current trends...
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:04 PM
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20. "The model was designed to target a younger, less affluent buyer than the Prius"
I like the sound of that
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:08 PM
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23. Now here is a beautiful car!
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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 07:42 PM
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31. Beautiful
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 07:45 PM
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32. A lot like one of these:
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PacerLJ35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 07:40 PM
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30. Prius is cool, but far to expensive for its size...
Someone in my family recently bought a Honda Insight and it's far cheaper, and almost as nice. It's like most Prius cars are loaded with options. She got the Insight new (2010) for the same price as a 2007 Prius with 20,000 miles. Only thing missing she wanted but doesn't have is cruise control (odd on a modern car).
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 07:53 PM
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33. My old Geo Metro still gets 42 miles per gallon.
That thing is like 15 years old. I don't believe at all, that these expensive complicated contraptions are necessary to get good fuel mileage if my old car was doing that good 15 years ago. And it is just a little 3 cylinder gasoline engine.God knows what could be done with that engine with some "good" modern technology.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:52 PM
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46. The trick is balancing efficiency and safety.
Safety features add weight, and weight itself improves accident performance to some degree, as does size to some extent. I sure wouldn't want to get in an accident in a Metro, however good on gas they are.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 01:43 AM
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37. It looks like a Citroen.
Assuming it's available in a not-completely-horrible color scheme I might consider one. Too bad you can't get carpool lane stickers for hybrids in CA any more.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:41 AM
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41. Ford's electrics are looking more practical, affordable, and REALISTIC at this point.
The Detroit Auto Show has belonged to Ford thusfar.
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eringer Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:41 PM
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42. This Design is a Game Changer
Toyota will widen their lead with motorcars like these.
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eringer Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:51 PM
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43. These Toyotas are Game Changers
Toyota will widen their lead with hybrid motorcars like the FT-CH and its sporty hybrid brother, the 400HP FT-HS (below).

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