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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 07:52 PM
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Iraq war veteran jailed over 'violent' rap song
Source: Guardian UK

Iraq war veteran jailed over 'violent' rap song
Soldier says hip hop lyrics were protest against 'unending war' and military's forced extended service policy
Chris McGreal, in Washington
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 13 January 2010 17.52 GMT
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An Iraq war veteran has been arrested and charged with threatening to kill his officers after recording a violent rap protest song and sending it to the Pentagon.

Marc Hall, a junior member of an infantry unit, wrote the song in protest at the US army's unpopular policy of involuntarily extending soldiers' service and forcing them to return to Iraq or Afghanistan.

Hall completed a 14-month spell in Iraq last year, expecting to be discharged next month, but was told he would have to go back to Iraq under the policy known as stop-loss.

The song includes lines saying the army "fucked me over", and a warning that he would shoot his officers and "watch all the bodies hit the floor".

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/13/marc-watercus-rap-song-pentagon
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 08:55 PM
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1. I'm a vet and I would never write such a song. But, I think I might just refuse to go back too.
Fuck it, throw me in jail. Chances are that the discharge will not be dishonorable since he did complete on tour and was protesting the stop loss.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:59 PM
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 05:16 AM
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15. yep, murder's a great way to make a point.
sigh.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:20 PM
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2. threat to kill your commanding officers is not your smartest move nt
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 02:17 AM
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10. Depends on what your goal is
If its go along to get along, then no. If its a successful completion of your service, no. But if his highest priority is to avoid going back to Iraq, well, he might just get that.
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carla Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 08:54 AM
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16. Tacit support
for "thought-crime" legislation. Nice. What one writes is nothing more than a narrative. It used to be that action was required in the commission of a crime. Now, you just have to think it...Cry for the lost nation!!
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:41 PM
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3. Except for sending the Pentagon a copy, is this any different than Iced T singing Copkiller or NWA's
Fck the Police?
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 10:18 PM
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7. The difference is that was a civilian matter, and he did get a shitstorm over it. This is military.
Whole different world, the military is.
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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 02:55 PM
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17. Not to mention the recent Fort Hood incident
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nvme Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 10:03 PM
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5. which cell did they throw the 1st amendment into?
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 10:16 PM
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6. Singing about killing your fellow soldiers isn't something that'll win you a Grammy.
He brought this on himself.
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nvme Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 03:28 AM
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11. singing it
is not the same as doing it.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 04:14 AM
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12. Yeah, join the military, do what this guy did and tell us how that defense works out for you.
I'll break it to you thusly: Not well.
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 01:45 AM
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9. You are kidding, right?
When you join the military, you lose some of your civil rights.
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RaisedByWolves Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 04:45 AM
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13. Patriot Act...gotta love it
I'm sooooooo happy my country has thought police! It makes me feel so safe!
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Angleae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 04:56 AM
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14. Has nothing to do with the patriot act, it's UCMJ.
Uniformed Code of Military Justice
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 12:05 AM
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8. Killing.

It's only ok sometimes.

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